UNC-CH Defensive End calls the scandal “a good thing.”

I don’t have the time to put together a full piece with analysis, but I thought I should get something up about this.

This morning the News and Observer’s excellent J.P. Giglio has an article up that talks about the news that we passed along Saturday night — that UNC-CH coaches are promising recruits various things about the outcome of the NCAA investigation.

Specifically, the N & O reports:

Tim Scott, a cornerback from Stafford, Va., said he was told by UNC assistant coach Charlie Williams that the program’s bowl status would not be affected by the NCAA investigation. He also said that the players involved in the NCAA investigation would be affected, not the program.

“Coach Williams said the players involved would have to pay back what they received and it wouldn’t be an issue for future recruits,” Scott said in a telephone interview Sunday.

Didn’t the UNC-CH coaches claim that they could not talk to the press due to the NCAA investigation?  But they can make promises to recruits about the outcome?  Is that even legal?  These are just a few questions similar to this impressive list of key questions that I recommend you review.

Also, UNC-CH’s Robert Quinn, who is winless against NC State, gave us his perspective on the scandal.  Quinn was no doubt on his way home from a Mensa meeting when he told the N & O the following:

“I was like, ‘Man, we’re in the category with Southern Cal and Florida,’ ”

“Two big programs and North Carolina, so I guess with all this craziness going on, that’s a good thing. We must be doing something right.”

I would like Quinn to make more statements about the scandal.  His is an excellent perspective, and I know I would love to hear more.

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23 Responses to UNC-CH Defensive End calls the scandal “a good thing.”

  1. BlackHole91 07/26/2010 at 7:53 AM #

    great stuff!

    he’s a defensive end, and not a LB, right?

  2. Sw0rdf1sh 07/26/2010 at 8:01 AM #


  3. tuckerdorm1983 07/26/2010 at 8:20 AM #

    There is only one thing in life worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about.

    Oscar Wilde

  4. Pack05 07/26/2010 at 8:23 AM #

    You have got to be one serious idiot to make that type of quoted statement… jesus christ

  5. Gowolves 07/26/2010 at 8:23 AM #

    Really? This guy just doesn’t get it. Tell me how that they can hold SoCal accountable to the gifts that Bush received from runners/agents/consultants and yet UNC is not accountable for what MA, GL and possible others have rec’d. I am sure there is something I am missing. These coaches know what is going on. They just look the other way and don’t ask the obvious questions

  6. packfan03 07/26/2010 at 8:33 AM #

    Old MacDonald,

    You are an edgy dude, and I love it! But, in Quinn’s defense, they are on the same level as USC. They both have the same number of National Championships since 2005 :-).

  7. PackerInRussia 07/26/2010 at 9:08 AM #

    That’s gold, Robert! Gold!

  8. tuckerdorm1983 07/26/2010 at 9:10 AM #

    I reserve judgment until the final tally is in by the NCAA to see if they step up to the plate and do the right thing. I am hoping we know something before the Sept 4 in Atlanta at 8 pm.

  9. NCMike 07/26/2010 at 9:14 AM #
  10. Daily Update 07/26/2010 at 9:27 AM #

    NCMike: We have known the ClubLIV tweet was irrelevant to this whole investigation for a while. It was “interesting” at first, but once the pictures of MA in Miami surfaced it has been quite clear the the investigation is about the trip on the 15th. As that blog points out, we also know that MA is in DC on the 10th because of the Cheesecake Factory receipt. It also appears he was still in DC on the 12th as well which may or may not be significant.

  11. ryebread 07/26/2010 at 9:44 AM #

    I highly doubt anything happens to UNC or BD out of this. Some players may be ineligible, but that will be about it. The NCAA won’t really dig into UNC, won’t look to see if there’s a pattern, etc..

    My guess is that UNC wins 8-9 games this year and BD scampers out of town. The NCAA will then decide all is well and drop everything.

  12. Prowling Woofie 07/26/2010 at 10:23 AM #

    Swofford is doing his best to derail this investigation, or at least deflect it from UNC and loss of institutional control, and laying all the blame on the agents. Heaven forbid the players should have to face consequences for their behavior…or the coaches pay for looking the other way !

    You know it’s happening. UNC and BD will skate free in the end.

  13. Pack05 07/26/2010 at 10:35 AM #

    Another tarheel fan already called the blogger out for being WRONG. The time stamps are correct.

    Tar Heel fan thanking statefansnation?

  14. Pack05 07/26/2010 at 10:58 AM #

    Austin now linked to being in California training at Gary Wichard’s proactive sports.


  15. Pack05 07/26/2010 at 10:59 AM #

    Sports Business Journal: “SBJ: Sources: NCAA probing who paid for UNC’s Marvin Austin’s training at Calif. facility where agent Gary Wichard trains rookie clients.”

  16. Pack05 07/26/2010 at 11:13 AM #

    More stuff from the web:

    tweet from Darren Heitner, who opened the can of worms by saying as many as 13 UNC players had been interviewed by the NCAA. He hasn’t been wrong on much (no one knows how many were interviewed, he did say from the beginning this would “reach to other schools”) since bursting onto the scene.

    He says: “Received word that the state investigation at UNC could turn into a federal investigation soon. USAO looking into it.”

  17. packfan03 07/26/2010 at 11:27 AM #

    UNC: Publicly Funded, Federally investigated, Universally hated.

    That has a nice ring, agree?

  18. Lock 07/26/2010 at 11:28 AM #

    Maybe it’s just me, and far be it for me to defend a UNC athlete, but that sounds suspiciously like a tongue-in-cheek quote, which makes it no less hilarious but far less dumb.

  19. mafpack 07/26/2010 at 1:32 PM #
  20. tootallorder 07/26/2010 at 1:44 PM #

    From the comments section from the sportingnews article:

    “And there it is folks… the exact reason why the NCAA, the NFL, the NFLPA or anyone else will never put any agent out of business… litigation… time consuming and costly litigation… and the strongest of desires to stay away from it… not the least of which being… YOU CAN LOSE. No! No! No!… Entering the big bad world of civil litigation is a place the NCAA is loth to go. The best and only recourse the NCAA has remains through its member institutions. This AND the NCAA’s consistency and fairness in ruling on those who truly offend. In the case of the ongoing investigations, if players have recently taken any forbidden “extra benefits” from agents then a “wrist slap” won’t do… especially in historical juxtaposition to the recent actions against USC. Sanctions, severe sanctions against the player AND THE INSTITUTIONS they play for are warranted. Why institutions?… they didn’t know. Maybe so… maybe not… but going forward the standard NOW is… “they should have known”. Otherwise, the message is… the NCAA isn’t always serious… sometimes they aren’t that upset… sometime YOU CAN ‘get away with it’… and it will be THE AGENTS that are first to pick up on such a message.”

  21. blpack 07/26/2010 at 2:18 PM #

    We’ve heard this arrogance before. This time while an investigation is ongoing. We’ll see what comes of it. Things look worse over there with each passing day.
    Pack 28 Pros 27.

  22. bradleyb123 07/26/2010 at 2:42 PM #

    tootallorder, this is why I think UNC and Marvin Austin will come away from all this with just a slap on the wrist.

  23. The Captain 07/26/2010 at 10:37 PM #

    I believe there is more to this than we know. Wouldn’t surprise me to see the NCAA take its sweet time and hammer the Tar Heels in a year. Then again, a slap on the wrist wouldn’t surprise me either.

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