Preview: NC State vs Virginia

After beating NCCU Saturday, the Wolfpack go on the road Wednesday evening to Charlottesville, Va. to take on the surprising Cavaliers, who moved to 4-2 in the ACC by defeating UNC Sunday. Virginia dominated the Heels from start to finish in Chapel Hill Sunday evening, shooting almost 52 percent from the field while holding the Tar Heels to 35 percent shooting and forcing 17 turnovers. Sylven Landesberg, who is fast emerging as the most complete offensive player in the conference, torched the Heels for 29 points on 11-19 shooting. In Virginia’s 70-62 victory over NC State Jan. 9, Landesberg went for 23.

NC State may have to get creative on the defensive end Wednesday to try and shut down Landesberg. During Sidney Lowe’s radio show Monday evening a caller asked the coach if he would employ different “junk” defenses like the box-and-1 to try and slow down Landseberg.

“I tell you what you’re a pretty good thinker,” Lowe chuckled in response to the question. “Yeah he’s such a tough player, we’re going to have to look at doing a few things. Certainly good solid man-to-man, but more importantly we have to be good with our help defense.”

On another side note, Lowe has not yet decided whether Javi Gonzalez will be in the starting lineup Wednesday. Gonzalez did not start against NCCU because he broke a team rule prior to the game.

NC State Travels to Virginia: After downing non-conference foe NC Central, 77-42, over the
weekend, the Pack returns to ACC play and heads to Virginia for a Wednesday night affair.
The Pack is 1-2 on the road in conference play this season, winning at No. 25 Florida State,
and NC State will be playing three of the next four games on the road.
Virginia won the season’s first matchup between the two teams, as the Cavs won in Ra-
leigh on January 9, 70-62.
The game will be broadcasted on ESPNU with Dan McLaughlin and Tim Welsh.
The Series Versus Virginia: NC State holds an 80-55 advantage in the all-time series with
Virginia, which dates back to the 1912-13 season. The Pack holds a 38-18 advantage in
games in Raleigh and 19-2 edge at neutral sites, but Virginia holds a 35-23 mark in games in
Charlottesville. This is the first time since 2006-07 the teams are meeting twice in a season.
NC State has won three of its last six trips to Virginia, but is 0-2 all-time at the John Paul
Jones Arena. Virginia has won the last two, 67-62 in 2007 and 78-60 in 2008.
Earlier This Season Against Virginia: NC State lost a 10-point second-half lead, as Virginia
downed the Pack, 70-62, in the ACC opener at the RBC Center on January 9. NC State closed the first
half on a 16-6 run, and opened the second half on a 12-6 run to grab a double digit lead of 42-32 at the
13:31 mark. After a charging cal on the Pack at 11:20, Virginia would go on a 13-3 run and capture its
first lead of the second half at 49-48 with 6:17 left. Virginia closed the game by making 17 straight free
throws, and went 19-of-20 for the game, and the Pack made just 16-of-26 attempts. Tracy Smith led the
Pack with 18 points and nine rebounds, while Dennis Horner added 12 points.

NC State Travels to Virginia

After downing non-conference foe NC Central, 77-42, over the weekend, the Pack returns to ACC play and heads to Virginia for a Wednesday night affair. The Pack is 1-2 on the road in conference play this season, winning at No. 25 Florida State, and NC State will be playing three of the next four games on the road. Virginia won the season’s first match up between the two teams, as the Cavs won in Raleigh on January 9, 70-62. The game will be broadcasted on ESPNU with Dan McLaughlin and Tim Welsh.

The Series Versus Virginia

NC State holds an 80-55 advantage in the all-time series with Virginia, which dates back to the 1912-13 season. The Pack holds a 38-18 advantage in games in Raleigh and 19-2 edge at neutral sites, but Virginia holds a 35-23 mark in games in Charlottesville. This is the first time since 2006-07 the teams are meeting twice in a season. NC State has won three of its last six trips to Virginia, but is 0-2 all-time at the John Paul Jones Arena. Virginia has won the last two, 67-62 in 2007 and 78-60 in 2008.

Earlier This Season Against Virginia

NC State lost a 10-point second-half lead, as Virginia downed the Pack, 70-62, in the ACC opener at the RBC Center on January 9. NC State closed the first half on a 16-6 run, and opened the second half on a 12-6 run to grab a double digit lead of 42-32 at the 13:31 mark. After a charging cal on the Pack at 11:20, Virginia would go on a 13-3 run and capture its first lead of the second half at 49-48 with 6:17 left. Virginia closed the game by making 17 straight free throws, and went 19-of-20 for the game, and the Pack made just 16-of-26 attempts. Tracy Smith led the Pack with 18 points and nine rebounds, while Dennis Horner added 12 points.

Tony Haynes put together a nice preview of tomorrow’s match up.

Sure NC State lost to Florida on a shocking 70-foot heave by Chandler Parsons, and sure the Wolfpack also fell at Arizona on a runner at the buzzer by Nic Wise. But of all the close defeats suffered by the Pack this season, the one that might have stuck in coach Sidney Lowe’s craw the most was a 70-62 lost to Virginia back on January 9th.

Building a 10-point lead by the midway point of the second half, NC State had several opportunities to put the Cavaliers on life support simply by knocking down some free throws.

But it didn’t work out that way.

Emboldened by the Wolfpack’s futility at the line in the final 10 minutes, Virginia – led by star Sylven Landesberg (23 points) and center Mike Scott (14) – stormed back to post an eight-point win.

And while NC State was missing 10-of-26 tries from the charity stripe, the Cavaliers knocked down 19-of-20, including 17 in a row down the stretch to ice it.

Unfortunately there will be no live blog tomorrow due to work schedules, but we will have an open post for you all to comment on during the game. Stay tuned.

09-10 Basketball Sidney Lowe

53 Responses to Preview: NC State vs Virginia

  1. leewolf 02/03/2010 at 9:57 AM #

    Phillie, not something good, just got to thinking about it and decided to look up the stats. Make no mistake, 4-11 is an awful mark, especially when you consider only one of those came on the road and it was to complete a season sweep of an awful GT team last year.

    My own prediction and feeling good about this game has nothing to do with those stats. Just a gut feel.

  2. rtpack24 02/03/2010 at 10:29 AM #

    Degand did a pretty good job on Landesberg. We got burned when Va went to 4 guard lineup and we put Horner on Landesberg, that is when Landesberg did most of his damage. Hopefully we learned something from that game.

  3. Wolfy__79 02/03/2010 at 10:37 AM #

    well, i have to say there is no choice for me except try to remain optimistic. i think we all know this team is a little better than our record… and we also know that we aren’t a nc caliber team. so we can be optimistic and strive for something in the middle, at best i think.

  4. Wolfy__79 02/03/2010 at 10:39 AM #

    timeouts vs unc-ch:

    as compared to some other contests this season, i think sid actually did ok in that dept. it wasn’t perfect timing by any means with each one, but he did call timeouts. in the last few minutes we didn’t have many remaining which is the result of that strategy. with that game, i believe he did ok there!

  5. Rick 02/03/2010 at 10:40 AM #

    How can we expect to compete with the talent level of last year’s bottom feeder?

  6. VaWolf82 02/03/2010 at 10:41 AM #

    i think we all know this team is a little better than our record…

    Don’t include me in that “we”.

  7. Wolfy__79 02/03/2010 at 10:43 AM #

    i absolutely agree rtpack. when they went small, we had problems. i give the credit to our team for folding, but a little credit is due for that strategic move.. often times it is very obvious when a coach is being too rigid/stubborn to adapt to individual games.. but we also can’t “go small” all that well with our current roster.. just not good enough with guard play. for tonight, we should be better prepared for that and expect nothing less. uva has gone to that lineup since the success they found in raleigh!

  8. Wolfy__79 02/03/2010 at 10:46 AM #

    despite starting out very slow/flat in most of our games thus far, we have faired pretty well in the second half.. outscoring our opponents in most games. that is what i’m referring to. not neccessarily speaking to the talent comparison. i think if this team can rise above the self inflicted mental block we tend to have, things can get a little better. despite digging ourselves into another hole!

  9. Rochester 02/03/2010 at 11:18 AM #

    Being capable of being better than our record and being better than our record are two very different things. We should have beaten UVA last time, but we didn’t.

    I’ll watch and cheer because I always do when I can, but I haven’t seen anything in the past 13 days to make me optimistic. Maybe I feel burned by the euphoria after the Duke game. I was so high that night. So low ever since. Everyone and their dog can beat UNC this year except us.

  10. Thinkpack17 02/03/2010 at 11:22 AM #

    “How can we expect to compete with the talent level of last year’s bottom feeder?”

    We appear the same, but last year’s ACC and this year’s ACC are two totally different worlds. I’ll say it again, I have a hard time believing that Landy is not the most NBA ready player in the ACC right now.

  11. Thinkpack17 02/03/2010 at 11:28 AM #

    “uva has gone to that lineup since the success they found in raleigh!”

    A few teams have found their mojo against us. VA, Arizona, Maryland…I’d like to see us start to destroy team’s confidence instead of building it up.

  12. Ed89 02/03/2010 at 12:16 PM #

    ^^I’ll say it again, I have a hard time believing that Landy is not the most NBA ready player in the ACC right now.

    Landesburg may be the best scorer, but Derrick Favors is the most NBA ready player in the ACC.

  13. Thinkpack17 02/03/2010 at 12:46 PM #

    I have no doubt Favors will go well ahead of Landy because his upside is just off the charts, but big men take a little longer to make an impact on the NBA court. Especially when they come out early. How many ACC, big man, early entries made an impact in their first year? How many STILL haven’t made an impact? It’s a man’s game in the NBA paint and most 19 year olds aren’t ready for it. You put Landy on an NBA team that is in the hunt and he’ll get some minutes, put Favors on a squad and he’ll sit at the end of the bench. Career wise I’ll take Favors, he is going to be a monster. If I could pick one to help the bulls THIS year it would be Landy.

  14. MA Wolfpack 02/03/2010 at 1:14 PM #

    I think we may have over achieved so far this season. Our talent level is very low yet we avoided any “bad” losses. Also, we are on pace to get to 4-12 in conference which was my realistic expectation for this team.

    Tonight’s game is big for how the season will play out. If we find a way to win tonight, then it’s possible we could get to 6-10 and make the NIT (although unlikely unless we find more talented guards).

  15. Wufpacker 02/03/2010 at 1:24 PM #

    I have to agree with VaWolf82 & Rochester….we are not better than our record. Sure, we’ve had some games that could have gone our way if a few things broke differently, but in general those things broke the way they did BECAUSE we have NOT been a better team (successful prayer heave by Florida notwhithstanding). For example, sure, we were close in the Clemson game and only lost by 3, but if we don’t spot them a 20+ point lead to begin with then the game probably turns out different (our fault). Similarly, most of us feel we could have (and should have) beaten Arizona in Tuscon…if we don’t turn the ball over 20 times (-9 TO diff) then we likely would have (again, our fault).

    That being said, I do believe we have the potential to finish the season a better team than we have been thus far. Big difference there.

    And I do also agree with MA Wolfpack’s comment above that we’ve overachieved. We’re at least one game better overall than I expected (2 unexpected wins (Duke, @FSU) vs. 1 unexpected loss (UVa) = +1 diff). In non conference its a wash with an unexpected loss to Northwestern and an unexpected win @Marquette.

  16. JeremyH 02/03/2010 at 2:30 PM #

    Perfectly winnable game, but our guards need to step up, hit some shots, and lead the team. Javi, you’re not Michael Jordan–everyone loses when you get temperamental.

    It’s amazing how things open up when CJ or Degand are contributing by being able to hit a mid-range shot. Overall these guys need to learn to play aggressive without playing out of control. Lowe needs to engineer a way to get the most out of these guys, otherwise our offense is imbalanced.

    Also, as we have already seen, we are a completely different team when we play aggressive defense. I don’t know what happened to that, although the Carolina game was a bit of a meltdown, and should be an exception.

    We are not better than our record, we are our record, but hopefully given all the ups and downs of the team play to this point, they can put their loses to good use and start getting their collective s**t together again, and take what’s in front of them.

  17. bradleyb123 02/03/2010 at 2:31 PM #

    I don’t get all the fear about Virginia. They’re 3-2 in the conference (not counting their win against us, a game in which we led by 10 midway through the second half before we started missing all our free throws).

    I’m not saying we should have won that game, but we don’t have much reason to think we can’t hang with them. We already did. They’re still JUST Virginia! Carolina rolled over and laid an egg against them (which I am glad of!)

    I’ll believe the newfound hype about Virginia when they still have a great conference record at the end of the year. Until then, they’re JUST Virginia! They might beat us, they might not. But I’m not about to be all doom and gloom over this team. It’s not like we’re playing Duke. Oh wait…

  18. VaWolf82 02/03/2010 at 2:39 PM #

    They’re 3-2 in the conference (not counting their win against us

    Yep, State looks pretty good when you have the ability to ignore the losses.

  19. bradleyb123 02/03/2010 at 3:08 PM #

    I don’t expect anything, good or bad, from NC State basketball this year. I know we’re capable of excellent play, and we’re also capable of letting the wheels come off. I just hope for the best. What I mainly wanted out of this year was for our new players to get good experience for next year when the troops arrive. And if something nice happened this year, it would just be a bonus. I still don’t think THIS year is over for us yet. Until we played Maryland and then Carolina, I was OK with the progress we were making. Maryland is a VERY good team, and Carolina sure played like one against us. So those weren’t necessarily bad losses.

    State has played OK away from home this year. And we ARE talking about Virginia here. I don’t see any reason why we can’t have a good game and maybe even a win tonight. Virginia may just have an emotional letdown after the way they beat Carolina the other night.

  20. bradleyb123 02/03/2010 at 3:11 PM #

    “Yep, State looks pretty good when you have the ability to ignore the losses.”

    I’m not ignoring losses. I’m saying, outside of beating NC State, they’re just 3-2 in the conference. Being .600 after just five games doesn’t prove anything. They may be good, or they may be Virginia. And beating or losing to NC State doesn’t prove anything, either. Virginia still has plenty to prove. They beat Georgia Tech at home. Big wupp. We beat Duke at home. And we see what that proved. Nothing.

  21. Rochester 02/03/2010 at 3:32 PM #

    Maryland is a VERY good team, and Carolina sure played like one against us. So those weren’t necessarily bad losses.

    I’m sorry, but when you lose by an average of 19 points, those are bad losses. Those two games completely zapped my optimism for this season. I need to see something positive to bring that back, because the NC Central scrimmage wasn’t quite enough.

  22. Wulfpack 02/03/2010 at 4:26 PM #

    “Maryland is a VERY good team”

    I beg to differ. They are 4-2, JUST like UVA. So I’m not sure how you get that Maryland is VERY good, and UVA is not good. They have the same record.

    Maryland isn’t ranked and Lunardi has them as an 11 seed — not VERY good. They’ve also lost to William and Mary (like UVA). Not VERY good.

    I agree they were VERY good against us last week. We seem to have that effect on others. We just love making teams look good while we look like garbage.

  23. Wolfy__79 02/03/2010 at 4:44 PM #

    in conference play, md is very good. in post season or ooc they are not. what gives. uva is just taking care of business thus far. that to me is good. what is one suprise win for them? we don’t have that supreme team this year in conference.. anyone can win this year.. uva is just taking advantage of the oppurtunities. we all have seen “good” ACC teams before, that hinders folks’ opinion of a “good” uva/md team/s.

    you all are right, we are our record. i guess i should have said more specifically that if we had done our part.. we would be better than our record right now. yet to be seen…

  24. bradleyb123 02/03/2010 at 5:51 PM #

    Maryland IS a very good team. Have you seen them play (other than when they played us)? They only lost AT Wake Forest (by two points) and AT Clemson.

    As for UVa not being good, I just don’t trust that they are yet. I see them falling. Maybe they’ll prove me wrong, but we had them on the ropes before blowing it. With Virginia, it’s just a gut feeling. They haven’t impressed me. Sorry, I’m not buying it. I think Virginia’s success is smoke and mirrors, and we’ll know that later this season (it’s my opinion). I think Maryland’s success is because they’re a very good team.

    Virginia reminds me of some of Herb’s better teams. Our Princeton offense would beat a lot of teams, but not the best teams. Virginia plays kind of a gimick defense. They pack it in on defense and allow you to pass the ball around the perimeter, almost unimpeded. If you miss the shot, they’re probably getting the rebound. (A telling statistic is that a GUARD led the team in rebounding in something like 7 of 16 games. They own the inside, and one of them will get that defensive rebound when it happens.) They depend on teams not shooting very well. If you hit your shots reasonably well, their defense fails and you have a good chance to beat them.

    It’s just a feeling. I just don’t believe in Virginia yet.

  25. whope90 02/03/2010 at 6:05 PM #

    not better than our record? we are 2-5 in the acc! 14-8 overall and our only solid non-conference wins are against marq and sc with a major victory over that rpi mamouth nccu(345). WE are what our record shows we are 14-8 and 2-5 acc with upset wins over Duke and FSU. We maybe get one more win against bc at 3-13 overall but tonight forget it! UVA will not have a let down. They have a solid coach and two outstanding players in scott and landburg! We some solid players”young guns” wood, smith,howell(if el sid lets him play more?) and vanbug!! How about a line up of smith,vberg howell degand and wood?

    Well WTNY or is that 2012? or 2013? or beyond?
    I am waiting for the 2-3 yr extension to el sid form ole”lee fowler!!
    NIT pipe dreams, how sad and low nc state basketball has come!!!

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