NC State vs. FSU Live Blog

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NC State vs. FSU

09-10 Basketball

42 Responses to NC State vs. FSU Live Blog

  1. VaWolf82 01/13/2010 at 9:16 AM #

    btw i like the new live chat thingy, thanks Medlin. I was entertained reading it

    I never got it to finish loading on Mozilla 3.0. I should have tried IE, but just didn’t think of it last night.

  2. coach13 01/13/2010 at 9:34 AM #

    My 2 cents…Wood was awesome and will be a pain for opponents over next 4 years. I really like Vandenburg off the bench. I thought he would sit all year and be a “project” but he can play. He’ll be a huge help off the bench in the coming years. I still like Mays only at the end of a game if we think they are going to foul us…the steel at the top last night with his back turned to the D was middle school…embarassing. I don’t think he has a great head on his shoulders. Smith will continue to be solid. AND Horner? I’ve never been big on Horner. I think WAXHAW hit it on the head…he is slow. AND he is very streaky. If he’s on leave him in. If he aint, leave him on the bench and leave him alone. Degand is very fast, he is a slasher (not shooting guard). I wish that guy could make a free throw. Still overall glad the guys could knock down the FT’s. Makes life easy at the end.
    Anyway. The only thing I can say moving foward is don’t expect anything going into our games. You simply have to tune in and see what this team is going to do this year. The oddsmakers might as well be throwing dart blindfolded to guess the outcome of this team. We may very well beat UNC and lose to NCCU.

  3. choppack1 01/13/2010 at 9:43 AM #

    Man – that was fun. Nothing like watching Scott Wood drain those 3s!

    I do think it’s key for us to get as many minutes as possible for Farnold at the 2 spot…unless we’ve got to shoot foul shots at the end of the game.

    Farnold is a different type of player. We become a legimate up tempo team w/ him at the 2 and Javi at the one. All of our new guys run the floor well.

    To me, aside from Scott Wood and the foul shooting – the other big story was our rebounding effort last night. We beat a tall, athletic team on the boards pretty soundly…and it was a team effort, Smith, Howell, Vandenberg and Wood did a super job down there.

    I think Lowe deserves a lot of credit here. He’s clearly upgraded the athleticism of the team. Howell is an absolute beat w/ great hands.

    When was the last time we scored 88 points in a conference game AND on the road against a decent opponent?

  4. D_Medlin 01/13/2010 at 9:44 AM #

    There will be more chats to come.

    I think it’s a pretty entertaining way to watch the games. It sure beats listening to whatever terrible TV announcers State gets.

  5. packbackr04 01/13/2010 at 9:49 AM #

    “Got to credit Lowe for the win, I don’t see how you can complain about coaching in this one”

    im not so sure about this… why in the heck was Degand in at the end when they were fouling? i thought the announcers were joking when they said he was a 42% FT shooter. I credit Degand for stepping up and hitting them, but he should have never been in at that point in the game. and you know they are fouling so, if you want him in on d, you just sub him back in when someone is on the line. middle school coaches can handle those type of substitution patterns

    also, i am not sure when it is ever acceptable to have mays and CJ on the floor at the same time. yet sid continues to do so and the opponents continue to go on runs with that backcourt on the floor.

    as much as ive been impressed with Davis this yr. Freshman Of the year so far has to go to Vandy. He has great footwork and has quick hands. it is really nice to have a legit 7 footer with the way college ball has gone so small over the last few years. he alters every shot in the paint. if he can develop and Davis could develop offensively they can both be very dangerous.

  6. packbackr04 01/13/2010 at 10:01 AM #

    not to mention that we have no inbounds plays.

    credit this win to the heart of the players, not the coaching. the win was in spite of the coaching

  7. Class of 2009 01/13/2010 at 10:01 AM #

    @packbackr, The answer to most, if not all, of your questions about why Degand, Mays, and Williams were on the floor can be answered with one word: fouls. Javi was in foul trouble (along with most our starters) and I think Lowe was just trying to project that out. I’d rather play Mays for bigger minutes in the middle of the game than towards the end where we really need Javi. Ditto for the other players. Preserve your FT shooters for if you think it’s really going to come down to a FT shootout.

  8. theghost 01/13/2010 at 10:08 AM #

    ^^^that 42% is for this year (5-12). Degand was 78% last year. Is he great – maybe not, but he’s not Shaq. The announcers keep using this year’s stats which are pretty misleading. Same with the kid from AZ, they kept saying how he was a 96% shooter, and he missed two – I don’t know why they won’t use career numbers this early in the year. Either way, of course Degand should be in the game.

    I’m not saying that you can’t find something to argue or criticize – who can’t? I’m saying the “coaching sucked and we somehow beat a ranked team anyway” line doesn’t work here. For those wanting to prove themselves right about Lowe, use the Virginia game, not this one.

  9. Thinkpack17 01/13/2010 at 10:18 AM #

    “credit this win to the heart of the players, not the coaching. the win was in spite of the coaching”

    So Sid gets all of the blame win we lose, but none of the credit when we win? Damn…that’s a tough job.

    BTW Horner scores buckets. He puts the ball in the hole, we don’t have a lot of people who can do that. I don’t give a damn how slow he is, he needs to play.

  10. choppack1 01/13/2010 at 10:37 AM #

    I give him a pass last night on Degand – w/ Javi out of the game, there was no other option.

    I faulted Sid in the Florida game for having Degand in there when we needed to hit foul shots, but in that case Javi was available and Mays sat on the bench. Mays is probably our best foul shooter – when it comes to shooting foul shots, the kid doesn’t lack confidence. I said then, and I stand by it – that Mays should have been in the game instead of Degand since we needed to make foul shots.

    Another subtle adjustment was having Howell inbound the ball. This frees up another good foul shooter – Scott Wood. (Well, he’s a good foul shooter when he doesn’t have a torn contact.)

  11. theghost 01/13/2010 at 10:40 AM #

    ^^I think what he meant, Thinkpack, is that since the players didn’t play with heart against UVa, that loss is their fault, not Lowe’s. Isn’t that how that logic plays out?

  12. packbackr04 01/13/2010 at 10:41 AM #

    not trying to be a jerk. i just see Sid do/not do alot of basic things that dont make any sense at all(in year 4). Not his best coached game. not his worst.

    all i was trying to say is this win belongs to Scott Wood (and then some pretty good free throw shooting from Mays and Degand), not Sidney Lowe.

  13. theghost 01/13/2010 at 10:54 AM #

    ^okay, I accept that, and it is a worthwhile discussion (at least to the extent that any of these ever are). I just think the things you say make no sense actually do – again, Degand shot 78% last year, and if you watched him shoot, he’s got a consistent stroke – so what if the announcers said 42%? And yes, Mays makes some mistakes and has looked lost more than I care to recount – but he actually did keep it together for the most part last night – the announcers were saying how great he played (though I thought they overstated the case). If you’re going to take Sid to task for poor free throw shooting, Scott Wood not hitting early in the season, and not executing offensively when people double Smith (all valid), then how can you not give him credit when he addresses those things?

    So the inbounds plays were lacking… wasn’t the defense, rebounding, free throw shooting, intensity, offensive movement, and transition play all much improved? Which of those things is the coach not responsible for?

  14. Thinkpack17 01/13/2010 at 11:01 AM #

    “Mays is probably our best foul shooter – when it comes to shooting foul shots, the kid doesn’t lack confidence.”

    He doesn’t lack confidence anywhere. Even when he is playing so badly…it’s actually kind of impressive.

  15. bradleyb123 01/13/2010 at 11:37 AM #

    Is it just me, or does Dan Bonner completely BLOW?

    When he’s working an NC State game, all he ever seems to do it talk about what the other team needs to do to win. If the opponent is down, he talks about what they need to do to come back. If the opponent is ahead, he talks about what they need to do to preserve their lead.

    Last night, State was on a fast break, and he commented about how the Noles got back on defense and were preventing State from scoring easy transition baskets (he said it almost gleefully, I might add). The very next position, State got a steal, and scored an easy layup. All I heard from Bonner was crickets. I swear, you can’t make this stuff up. How the man keeps his job, I’ll never know.

  16. Mike 01/13/2010 at 11:45 AM #

    Bonner is a toad. Listen to him – he laughs at everything he says. He will say “so and so did a nice job looking inside hahahaha” with that horrible cackle. Try it, that’s all you will soon start to hear is him laughing at his own comments.

  17. Mike 01/13/2010 at 11:46 AM #

    Oh, and great game Pack. Geez, that clock seemed like it was running in slo mo last night.

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