NC State Basketball in the News

Apparently there was a press conference yesterday, here is some coverage from WRAL:


Lowe looking to put his own stamp on the program:

This offseason, coaches like Tom Izzo and Tubby Smith told Lowe this was his season to put his own stamp on the Pack program. “No question about it,” said Lowe, who has yet to make the NCAA tournament as a coach. “They said, ‘This is where you can make your mark and change things.’ One of them said ‘change the culture.

Link to expanded interview with Coach Lowe

With only one Sendek recruited player on next year’s roster (D. Horner who is now a senior and will have played all four years under Coach Lowe), Coach Lowe has completely rebuilt the roster. The roster has depth at every position, but it lacks experience and has very few, if any, proven ACC players. Only Tracy Smith showed all-ACC potential last year, so the Pack needs improvement at every single position in addition to needing several freshman ready to be major contributors off the bench. There is hope as Javier Gonzalez, Dennis Horner, and CJ Williams showed flashes of strong play last year. However, they still disappeared at times and none of the three have shown the ability to play consistently well at this level. Still, I like what they bring to the table in toughness and grit, so hopefully they will be able to fill their expanded roles with McCauley, Costner, and Fells all gone.

In terms of the freshman, Lowe compiled a top 15~ recruiting class that will bring talent, athleticism, size, and depth. Lorenzo Brown ( guard, top 40~), Richard Howell (forward, top 75~), G/F Scott Wood (guard/small forward, top 100~) and Deshawn Painter (forward/center, top 75~) were the most heralded players of the class and could all see major minutes this year. Lowe also added a seven footer in Jordan Vandenberg from Australia and a local small forward from Athens Drive Josh Davis. It was essential that Lowe land a strong, deep recruiting class and he delivered.

While next season will certainly be a challenge, the youth and talent on this year’s roster along with a commitment from Ryan Harrow for 2010 does give me hope. Being somewhat of an “old school” guy as far as basketball recruiting who hates “star rankings” and trusts Brick Oettinger more than anyone else, I was pleased to see Brick have Harrow at #47 overall with a comment that the ranking was too low in a recent ACC Sports Journal. Harrow has had a great summer on the AAU circuit and I was able to catch one of his games over Memorial Day in Reynolds Coliseum. He was bigger, faster and more athletic than I expected. Not to mention, he exceeded my already high expectations in terms of ball handling, shooting, scoring, etc…He is everything you want in a point guard and more.

Having only seen Harrow once, this may be a bit of a stretch to say at this point. But he reminded me a lot of how I felt about Julius Hodge in high school. Hodge was the perfect recruit for Herb Sendek at the time. He was going to make an immediate impact, could dominate the basketball, produce points to end one of our dreaded scoring droughts, and most importantly he wasn’t going to go pro after 1-2 years because of his naturally skinny frame. Hodge was an immediate program changer. Well, Harrow made the same impression the day I saw him in Reynolds. Different size obviously and different positions (though Hodge did handle the ball a lot), but Harrow can produce points in a variety of ways, he will make an immediate impact (J. Gonzalez will be a senior when Harrow is a freshman), and he has the same skinny frame that means he isn’t likely “one and done”.

Here is a link to Joe Giglio of the N&O with some information about the incoming recruiting class and some quotes from Coach Lowe:

Painter, a 6-9 power forward, orginally signed with Florida but was released from his LOI and chose the Wolfpack in May. Lowe called Painter’s decision a “great break.”

“It’s a great opportunity to get in on a player like that so late,” Lowe said.

As for the difference between Painter and Richard Howell, a fellow incoming freshman forward, Lowe said Painter was “longer and bouncier.”

“Richard can face up and shoot it a little better,” Lowe added.

Joe Giglio interviewed Lee Fowler yesterday about the state of the program. This is a definite must read with some very interesting quotes from Lowe and Fowler:

He (Lowe) and Fowler are on the same page.

“The expectation is always to win, but you have to be realistic,” Lowe said. “You also have to have the right people in place and the right pieces. Sometimes time is a factor.”

Fowler said he hasn’t put any kind of timeline on Lowe, whose contract runs through the 2012-13 season. Fowler said both sides understand the expectations at a school that has won two national titles and shares a backyard with national powers North Carolina and Duke.

“We should finish in the top half of the league, at the minimum, and get to the tournament every year,” Fowler said. “I think with the great class he’s bringing in, we’re going to have a great chance to do that, if not this year, then in the near future.”

09-10 Basketball AD & Department Basketball Recruiting General Sidney Lowe

70 Responses to NC State Basketball in the News

  1. Cardiac95 06/19/2009 at 4:05 PM #

    All the way back in 2003 or so, Lee stated our goal at that time was to be Top 3 in the conference in every sport (out of 9 teams) and we can all see how that’s turned out. Goals are great, but without the will to reach them, what’s the point exactly?

  2. 44rules 06/19/2009 at 4:08 PM #

    Why do I not want Lowe fired? One big reason is that Fowler is still there. I don’t expect “Coach” to do a good job getting a new coach. Not unless he’s forced to hire an outside recruiting agency to do his job.

  3. howlie 06/19/2009 at 4:24 PM #

    The MAIN thing and KEY thing I DON’T want to see with this new group is the “wasting” of the first 1/2 of the season.
    Take out Hodge’s years, and all of Sendek’s era, and a wee bit much of Sid’s, is the sense that our ‘inept preseason of googs, gaffs, bloopers, and creatively new ways to lose a game endure across 1/2 a season.

    I’ll gladly trade that for a “Clemson type year” where the season begins with hustle, 94’ of pressing D, and wave after wave of solid players come in to give there all and rack up a 15-2 early season record before wasting away at the end.

    When I talk of wanting to see “a new begnning” with this new crop of players, I’m talking of ^that^– a new emphasis on D, hustling, pushing the ball, and out-working the other team.

  4. choppack1 06/19/2009 at 4:46 PM #

    Howlie – there is little evidence that this type of play that Sid is demanding.

    I want to see us play hard too and I’m hoping that’s what I’ll see.

  5. old13 06/19/2009 at 4:52 PM #

    “Someone mentioned that we need to “reload” as opposed to “rebuild”. Once we have an elite team, then that will be the case. Right now, we need to rebuild. And we are.”

    Agreed, bradleyb123! (I’m the one who mentioned reloading in response to an earlier comment that implied that top 6 in the ACC was an accepteble standard in light of “rebuilding” years for the foreseeable future.) Yes, hopefully the “rebuilding” is currently well on its way. My point is that after Wolfpack BB is rebuilt, it should only require reloading every year thereafter, not cycles of rebuilding. And the first order of business has to be to get rid of Foulup before any actions are taken concerning coaches, because who wants Foulup hiring more coaches in anything! (BTW how is it that the women’s volleyball coach, with an attrocious record since arriving, who is now embattled with The Technician [for unviable reasons IMO], is allowed to stay! Just another Foulup excuse parade!)

  6. bradleyb123 06/19/2009 at 5:09 PM #

    ^ “Howlie – there is little evidence that this type of play that Sid is demanding.”

    Unless you consider that Herb’s leftovers last year (60% of our starting team) were not made for that style of play.

    I still say maybe this was a case of Herb’s round pegs not fitting into Sid’s square holes (and yes, I know that sounded absolutely horrible, but you get the point!)

    And Old13, I agree with your post. 🙂

  7. BJD95 06/19/2009 at 5:30 PM #

    None of “Sid’s guys” played a lick of defense last year. This was not a “Herb’s guys” phenomenon.

  8. LRM 06/19/2009 at 5:43 PM #

    So if Lowe is going to put his “stamp” on this season, does that mean he’ll be “mailing it in?”

    God help us all.

  9. tcthdi-tgsf-twhwtnc 06/19/2009 at 5:57 PM #

    I have felt and stated many times that NC State would have a hard time rebuilding until the previous coach’s players had graduated. This obviously isn’t always the case when a new coach comes to town but it was very telling when most of the guys from HS last class opted to not come to State. Guys that HS recruited seemed to be guys that bought into him for some reason or another. A lot of those guys had a change of heart and left the program as soon as they could.

    As to not bash the previous coach I’ll leave it at that. I look forward to watching Sid’s players playing Sid’s game this year. I’m proud that Sid seems to be recruiting for NC State and the program not the coach. I hope the guys are able to have fun playing college basketball and it seems like it may be the first year that will happen since Mr. Fire and Mr. Ice graduated.

  10. Wulfpack 06/19/2009 at 8:07 PM #

    Seems to Herb’s guys were awfully happy when Sid arrived 3 years ago, talking about how great of a team we would be. It didn’t quite go as planned and then the coach began blaming the players. Then they realized what was going on and who was coaching them, and that’s how you get 10th place.

    Sid is proving to be a very capable recruiter. The problem is that he has yet to prove he can coach and motivate even a lick, and I’m not only refering to his time in Raleigh. To turn the tide, he MUST become a better coach. He can recruit the best crop in the land and watch it all fall apart. Enough of the talk. Enough of the constant excuse making. Go PROVE it for once, coach.

  11. BSIE80 06/19/2009 at 9:20 PM #

    Forget who the coach is and just look at our team.

    If u just look at our team and pretend u were coaching this team, what do u think u could do, with respect to conf. record?

    My guess is at this stage, u would not make a committment, because u even hadn’t seen half your team in practice.

    Given that, I think we will do at least as good as last years team. I believe the nucleus of Smith, Gonzalez, Mays, Horner, CJ will get us 3-4 wins alone. The addition of painter/wood/lo/howell will get us 3-4 more wins.

    If we do better than 6-7 wins, it will be all coaching ability and/or surprising talent improvement.

  12. Dogbreath 06/19/2009 at 9:56 PM #

    Would it kill our athletic director to simply respond, “to win championships, attract top notch players, put a product on the floor that our fans can be proud of, and graduate players” when asked to state the goals of the program?

    Instead we get what amounts to “not finish last.”

  13. LRM 06/19/2009 at 10:21 PM #

    “I believe the nucleus of Smith, Gonzalez, Mays, Horner, CJ will get us 3-4 wins alone.”

    Smith (11.3), Gonzalez (6.6), Mays (4.7), Horner (6.4), & CJ (3.7) combined for 32.7 ppg, while only Gonzalez (20.7) averaged more than 20 mpg.

    Calling that a “nucleus” might be a stretch.

  14. Greywolf 06/19/2009 at 11:16 PM #

    “Sean Miller and Calipari represent 2 coaches who landed better recruiting classes than ours in less than a month after being hired!”

    What’s so startling about a couple of coaches who have been recruiting ongoingly doing better than a relatively unknown (to recruits) assistant coach coming directly from the pros late in the recruiting game?

    Sometimes reading the posts I have difficulty getting the rationale behind them until I remember that the point isn’t to be rational but is to put the coach or AD in a bad light.

    The head basketball coach at NCSU is interviewed and the first 60% of the posts are spent pissing and moaning about the AD and what he should have said and what he shouldn’t have said and why did he accept that request to be interviewed when he knows that the SFN family doesn’t like for him to be interviewed.

    If nycfan is a female, she has a distinct advantage over all us male fans: she’s got 2 sets of lips so she can piss and moan at the same time. And on SFN those are real assets. 😉

  15. Gene 06/20/2009 at 8:15 AM #

    “That’s essentially what we’ve become. Hope for a nice tourney run once every 5 years while our rivals cuts the nets down one out of five.”

    One out of five wouldn’t be so bad, Carolina’s won a couple of ACC titles and two national titles in the past 4 years. Duke’s won 7 out of the last 10 ACC titles.

    Apathy is the only rational state of mind one can have towards NCSU basketball.

  16. kyjelly 06/22/2009 at 8:24 AM #

    With Sid and Lee it will always be “Ground Hogs Day”,around here ,nothing will change only more scapegoats.

  17. bradleyb123 06/22/2009 at 11:26 AM #

    ^ “None of “Sid’s guys” played a lick of defense last year. This was not a “Herb’s guys” phenomenon.”

    Sid’s guys were also 2 of the 5 on the floor. And I wouldn’t say Javi “didn’t play defense”. But he’s a PG. What kind of defense do you expect from him anyway? Bottom line, the worst defenders are now gone.

  18. bradleyb123 06/22/2009 at 11:29 AM #

    ^ “Sid is proving to be a very capable recruiter. The problem is that he has yet to prove he can coach and motivate even a lick, and I’m not only refering to his time in Raleigh. To turn the tide, he MUST become a better coach. He can recruit the best crop in the land and watch it all fall apart. Enough of the talk. Enough of the constant excuse making. Go PROVE it for once, coach.”

    From what I’m hearing, motivation doesn’t seem to be a problem with this group any more. I’m hearing about them showing up at the gym at 6:30am, and being the last ones there when they close. I think this group is collectively showing the work ethic that JJ Hickson had when he was here. I think we’re going to be pleasantly surprised by this group this year. And almost certainly next year.

  19. NCSU4ever 06/23/2009 at 8:28 AM #

    “the worst defenders are now gone”

    Fells and McCauley were probaly our best defenders last year. Smith does not play D, most of Lowes players have been marginal defenders.
    Lowe in general has not seem to have put a lot of emphasis on playing hard defense, this may be a sympton of the general lack of motivation on the team last year, or the staff may not be coaching D. IMO Sid should find an assistant coach who specializes in fundamental defense.

  20. Wulfpack 06/23/2009 at 9:11 AM #

    ^I completely agree. We have been a terrible defensive team the past few years, and a very bad rebounding team. That’s a recipe for disaster. I have yet to see Horner guard or box out anyone. Smith is extremely lazy and gets beat on simple moves, subjecting him to foul trouble. Javi and Farnold get torched off the dribble. These things must change if we want to have a good season. For me, it’s all about attitude. And we haven’t had one in an awfully long time. Let’s hope that’s changing as we speak.

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