Top Basketball ADs and Boston College News

Here is a list of the “Top 10 Athletic Directors in Basketball”. Two ACC athletic directors made the list, but for some reason the author forgot to include Lee “I know basketball” Fowler. There is a suggestion on that site (not from us) for the author to come up with a list of the 10 worst Athletic Directors, so stay tuned.

I follow what happens at Boston College now that Tom O’Brien is our football coach and there have been some interesting occurrences that were worth discussing in relation to NC State.

After two straight appearances in the ACC title game, Boston College Athletic Director Gene Defilippo recently fired Jeff Jagodzinski for interviewing for the New York Jets’ head coaching position. That led to promoting long-time defensive coordinator Frank Spaziani which was not necessarily popular among BC faithful.

This week Boston College announced an extension through 2014 for Defilippo which was met with mixed reviews by BC fans. Here is some commentary from a BC blogger:

Personally I think the extension was premature. Gene is currently under contract until 2011. Was he going anywhere? Did we need to give him more money given the current ticket sales and donation challenges? Also, what happens if the Spaz decision proves to be a poor one? Gene will get much of the blame for that. If things don’t go well that means we could be buying out a football coach and AD.

If you remember way back to April of 2007, then our own Lee Fowler was granted an extension through 2013 with a basketball program and football program far less successful than either of the respective programs at Boston College.

Since Defilippo’s hiring in 1997, BC’s basketball program has been to at least 8 NCAA tournaments, won 3 regular season Big East titles, and won 1 Big East Tournament title. In the meantime, the football program has the 21st best overall winning percentage in the nation, 1 Big East title, 2 Atlantic Division titles, a tie for 1st place in the Atlantic Division, and has never finished lower than 2nd.

At the time of Fowler’s extension, NC State basketball program had been to 5 tournaments in 7 years, had won 0 ACC regular season titles and 0 ACC Tournament titles. In football, NC State only had the 46th best overall winning percentage, no conference titles, and no Atlantic Division titles. In fact, we had just gone 2-6 in the ACC and finished in last place in the Atlantic Division which was our worst overall season in about a half century.

So given these huge differences in terms of accomplishments (not counting BC’s two national titles in hockey, 2 runner-up finishes, and 2 other trips to the Frozen Four during Defilippo’s tenure), after a 3 year extension Defilippo is at BC currently with a 5 year contract. Compare that to Fowler who at the time received a 3 year extension from NC State giving him a 6 year contract.

I thought the differences in results for Defilippo and Fowler and the two extensions were worth noting and comparing. What criteria was used by NC State that led them to the offering of a longer extension for a far less successful employee? The BC blogger brought up some great questions and the point about having to buyout the contracts of two major employees at the same time can also be asked/applied to the situation surrounding Fowler’s extension as well.

Some more comments from the BC blogger:

During the Jags firing I found myself at the center of a lot of BC speculation, gossip and positioning. While it was clear Gene had Father Leahy’s ear and support, he is not universally loved and supported. There are many serious donors who have been turned off by him and who felt he mishandled the Jags firing and subsequent search. Some friends of Gene also wondered if the whole saga hadn’t taken a lot out of him and if he would hang it up before his contract ran out. This extension brings more clarity to all the speculation. Gene obviously still has enough support around BC to get this extension. And he seems like he wants to hang around BC for a few more years.

In news today that made the Boston Globe, the largest donor to the football program has resigned from the Board of Trustees.

The job may have gotten tougher with the resignation of Greg Barber, a member of the Board of Trustees.

Barber’s relationship with Boston College dates more than 40 years. His connection with BC athletics is not quite as long, but just as significant, highlighted by the Gregory P. Barber and Family Endowment for the Head Football Coach, a gift of $2.5 million, the largest contribution ever at The Heights. Add another $1 million gift for the construction of the Yawkey Athletic Center, and Barber, BC ’69, has made a significant financial contribution to his alma mater.

But last week, Barber quietly resigned from the 20-member board. He began contributing to the athletic program – primarily football – when Rev. J. Donald Monan, S.J., was the school’s president and Chet Gladchuk was the athletic director, which led to an endowment for the head football coach.

During the past few years, however, Barber has maintained a much lower profile. When asked yesterday why he was resigning, Barber said, “No comment.”

When asked if he intended to maintain the flow of contributions, now in the $4.5 million range, Barber said he had not made up his mind.

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97 Responses to Top Basketball ADs and Boston College News

  1. Alpha Wolf 04/17/2009 at 8:40 AM #

    You guys are missing the obvious solution that we outlined a couple of weeks ago and Noah outlined above:

    compare the situation to the Joe Alleva situation at Duke a couple years back. Alleva was not fired, per se, but it was made clear to him that key people at Duke were deeply dissatisfied with the job he was doing over there — and that those key people would prefer that he not continue in his position. Alleva left, of course, to take the AD job at LSU…more or less a lateral move. Nonetheless, he was pushed out the door, quietly, but forcefully. At the end of the day, Alleva got another job, a public pat on the back and everybody moved on happy — and without a messy public soap opera played out in the newspapers that ended up in recriminations, lawsuits or buyouts.

    It is clear now that NC State is not going to terminate Fowler, but that by no means do NOT mean that Fowler has full support from either the BOT or his staff.

    This is politics, and that’s the way they play that particular chess match.

  2. jbpackfan 04/17/2009 at 8:48 AM #

    So you’re tellin me there’s a chance!

  3. bradleyb123 04/17/2009 at 9:03 AM #

    Secondly, anyone who is worried about Harper leaving NC State for greener pastures, that is just fact of life with NC State. It really doesn’t take too very much to out green those brilliant folks in Raleigh.

    Then we need to bring in an AD that will hire the best coaches available, build a winning tradition again, and make our grass as green as anyone else’s. Winning = Fertilizer!

  4. bradleyb123 04/17/2009 at 9:03 AM #

    I still believe Fooler is on the way out.

  5. jmnorris 04/17/2009 at 9:05 AM #

    smfrank, nice post! do i know you? i never thought i would see anything about ultimate on here, but i’m glad i did. i know ultimate is a club sport, but we are actually pretty damn good at it. a bad year for us is outside the top 20. i graduated last may, but as a two year captain, five year player for the team, i can say that we are better and more consistent in ultimate than any varsity sport at NCSU(maybe cc has us beat). we have a pretty good chance at nationals this year (our region is the toughest in the nation), but even if we don’t make it, we’ll probably finish top 15. again, i know its just frisbee, but i had to take advantage of this when i saw smfranks post. if anyone is in charlotte next weekend, come watch a game or two at ramblewood park. its regionals and thats a high-level competitive tournament, with the top 3/16 teams making nationals. i think we’ll be seeded 5th.

  6. Noah 04/17/2009 at 9:07 AM #

    It is clear now that NC State is not going to terminate Fowler, but that by no means do NOT mean that Fowler has full support from either the BOT or his staff.

    I don’t think that’s necessarily the case at all. I’ve heard nothing to contradict the position that Fowler is toast. And I continue to hear many things that support that position.

  7. Alpha Wolf 04/17/2009 at 9:20 AM #

    jmnorris, I played ultimate in its younger days (late 80s) over in Forest Hills Park over in Durham. Man, it was a blast, but this old man ain’t fast enough to be worth a frack in that sport these days.

  8. old13 04/17/2009 at 9:24 AM #

    I really don’t care whether Foulup is fired or just nudged out the door, although I suppose there is a part of me that would like to see him actually fired and all that goes with that. But, bottom line, I’d just be extremely glad to have him gone from NCSU forever – and sooner rather than later!

  9. PackisRolling 04/17/2009 at 9:55 AM #

    fingers crossed. like the optimism i’m seeing

  10. highstick 04/17/2009 at 10:20 AM #

    “Drawn and quartered” would be fun, but my guess would be Lee’s going to announce his retirement to “spend more time with his family and pursue other interests”….

    I sure hope he’s in “hot pursuit” and ready to go though!

  11. newt 04/17/2009 at 10:20 AM #

    If Harper leads State to be a national contender, then the Tennessee job is no more attractive than NC State.

    Would Coach K leave Duke for UCLA or any other school? No, because of what he’s built at Duke – who had not won a national title when he arrived.

    This is my problem with Fowler; I believe he has perpetuated the idea that we have a ceiling. We have no ceiling.

  12. choppack1 04/17/2009 at 10:49 AM #

    newt – it all depends.

    Regardless, “will the coach leave for other jobs” shouldn’t be a big consideration for hiring respective coaches if you have a competent AD. Look at Miami, they were able to win national championships w/ 3 difference coaches in 10 years. They had Schnellenburger – he left. They brought in Jimmy Johnson – he left. They brought in Dennis Erickson – he left. They brought in Butch Davis – he left. Then, they started bringing in assistants who were “owed” the job….

    Let’s face it, if employer’s only hired folks who wouldn’t have opportunities to leave, they wouldn’t hire lots of good candidates. However, I could see Lee Fowler and our administration getting sidetracked by this kind of thing.

    By the way, if UT wants Harper to replace Pat Summit, it will mean that she has done an excellent job here.

    This shouldn’t be confused w/ hiring someone who would want to stay and build something special. Still, give me the choice of hiring someone who other would really want or hiring someone w/ out other opportunities for advancement – I know who I’ll take every time.

  13. Gene 04/17/2009 at 11:05 AM #

    Dean Smith didn’t leave UNC for his alma matter Kansas, even though he was on their lone National Title squad in the 1950’s, until Danny Manning won another one in 1988.

    Bobby Knight never coached at his alma matter Ohio State and went head to head against them on an annual basis, while at Indiana.

    If a coach builds a program up, they often don’t jump ship for the school they attended as a student.

    Also, wasn’t Kay Yow an ECU grad?

  14. choppack1 04/17/2009 at 11:38 AM #

    Indeed she was Gene. And excellent points.

    Like I said though, it’s really a moot point – because the relationship is entirely conditional…We shouldn’t be saying, “Look, no matter what, you’ll always be our head coach.” And vice versa, the coach doesn’t say, “No matter what, I’ll never leave.”

    Of course, I’m not sure that how our current administration handles things. I think they look for someone who would be satisfied at NC State – and consider that as valuable as the other qualifications for the job.

    I want the hire to ethical – and I want to be able to match a salary – but if Harper does such a great job every program in the nation wants her, I’ll be thrilled.

  15. redfred2 04/17/2009 at 11:47 AM #

    “This is my problem with Fowler; I believe he has perpetuated the idea that we have a ceiling. We have no ceiling.”

    I have to agree with that statement, but don’t lay all the blame at Fowler’s feet, there were many fans who were also fine and dandy with a ceiling over their own heads as well.

  16. Noah 04/17/2009 at 11:53 AM #

    Like I said though, it’s really a moot point – because the relationship is entirely conditional…We shouldn’t be saying, “Look, no matter what, you’ll always be our head coach.” And vice versa, the coach doesn’t say, “No matter what, I’ll never leave.”

    Well said.

  17. old13 04/17/2009 at 12:42 PM #

    redfred2, I’d have to agree with you on that. But I also think it is an attitude that permeates the entire NCSU administration. Otherwise, there wouldn’t be a Stafford killing tailgating, Foulup as AD for 9 years, coaches retained who obviously aren’t doing a very good job, the ongoing student FB ticket/stadium admission fiascos, etc. And with all the enthusiasm and support displayed by alumni and fans, especially concerning FB now, it amazes me how they can turn such a deaf ear to it for so long.

  18. SaccoV 04/17/2009 at 6:04 PM #

    Gene, you were right. For a moment, I remembered Elon, but she coached first there. She attended ECU. Newt, you have to be insane. Even if Tennessee poops the bed as soon as Summit retires, it will always be AT WORST the second best WBB program in the country. Think of it this way, can you name a nationally (and consistently) successful WBB coach BEFORE Pat Summit? I can think of one–Jody Conradt at Texas. Now former Duke coach Gail Goestenkors is currently the head WBB coach at UT. Outside of Texas, Pat Summit paved the way for Gino and UCONN and Sherry Coales at Oklahoma to earn recognition. I hope Mrs. Harper stays a long time, but I can’t see a former Vol turning that job down. As for Lee, well, I agree with the other posters that he looks horrible, but then again, I can’t remember a time the past 9 years where (or when) he has looked good. I’m sure this WBB coaching search must have lost him a good 20 ounces off his waistline.

  19. newt 04/17/2009 at 11:03 PM #

    SaccoV – In 1973, you would have said the same about the UCLA men’s basketball coaching job. Things change.

    redfred – Fowler is paid to be a steward of the NC State athletics program. It’s his job. Fans are fans.

  20. redfred2 04/18/2009 at 7:41 PM #

    Uh newt, I don’t know exactly what you’re trying to tell me there?

    Are you suggesting that since Lee Fowler hasn’t shown any ability whatsoever in formulating any long term plans involving ANY aspect of NC State athletics, that it is somehow reasonable to expect that so many fans would have fallen right in line behind him, and blindy followed him down his merry path to no where?

    ALLrighty then, I gotcha.

  21. Thompson44 04/19/2009 at 8:20 PM #

    For those of you in the know, how come Fowler is still the AD? Seems to me or contacts gave you some misinformation. Any explanation?

  22. bradleyb123 04/20/2009 at 9:07 AM #

    For those of you in the know, how come Fowler is still the AD? Seems to me or contacts gave you some misinformation. Any explanation?

    I still believe Fowler is done. It’s just not that easy to get rid of someone in his position quickly. Like someone said, “we’re not firing a burger-flipper”. He still has four years left on his contract, and at his annual salary, that means we technically owe him over a million dollars. What I’ve heard is that we’re negotiating his buyout and it could drag on into the summer.

    Keep the faith, and be patient. There has been too much smoke for there not to be a fire in all this.

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