Coaching Carousel Comments (Updated 3/18)

Wednesday, March 18th
Great conversation going on here! So, we thought that we would just elevate this entry back to the top and add this link from Jeff Goodman at Fox Sports to the mix.

He has listed the 12 coaches that could get hot and make a jump due to either their appearance – or performance – in the Big Dance. These are all non-BCS guys except the interim staff at Arizona.

First name on the list is none other than:

Sean Miller, Xavier – He’s been a commodity in the past year or two, but sources told FOXSports.com that the hefty buyout has dropped considerably. He’s done a terrific job overachieving with the current Musketeers group and should have a shot at Virginia or anything else that opens in his comfort zone.

Tuesday, March 17th
By now, you probably know how much we love the coaching carousels. This is the time when programs can be made and/or destroyed. The potential fallout of Virginia’s firing of Dave Leitao has added a layer of complexity and interest to this year’s carousel for us all as it is no secret that our own Sidney Lowe and Georgia Tech’s Paul Hewitt now enter next season as the two coaches with the hottest seats in the Atlantic Coast Conference.

The following comments come from an article today from Duke graduate, Seth Davis.

We already have four openings at prominent programs: Alabama, Arizona, Georgia and Virginia. What do all of those schools have in common? They’re all big state schools. We all know these schools are facing budget crunches, but aside from Arizona, their administrations made the decisions to create these openings. I don’t think they would do that unless they were ready to throw out some big money to find replacements.

Taking Arizona out of the mix for the moment, the two biggest names that will be mentioned are Oklahoma’s Jeff Capel and Missouri’s Mike Anderson. Should Anderson be inclined to leave Missouri, Alabama would seem to be an obvious choice since he’s from the state, but Georgia has a dynamic young athletic director in Damon Evans, and many in the business believe that is the better job because there are more players in that state. I think it is highly unlikely that Capel would leave Oklahoma for Alabama or Georgia. Yes, he’s about to lose Blake Griffin to the NBA, but freshman guard Willie Warren is probably coming back, and he’ll be joined next season by two McDonald’s All-Americans. Plus, Capel works for arguably the best AD in the country in Joe Castiglione. I’m sure he is prepared to do whatever he can to keep Capel at OU.

Virginia, however, is another story. Capel grew up in Virginia, his wife is from Raleigh, and of course he played in the ACC for Duke. Virginia is a first-rate university, it has a brand new arena and an excellent recruiting base. Plus, if you finish third in the ACC, they build you a statue. It will be awfully difficult for Capel to give up the success and job security he has in Oklahoma, but if he does, this would be the kind of situation that could be worth it. So stay tuned.

If Virginia doesn’t hire Capel, I think they’ll go after Tubby Smith. Tubby, in fact, is still on Arizona’s radar screen. I think Smith would be interested in both those jobs, but I do not see him at Georgia or Alabama. A lot of people are speculating that VCU’s Anthony Grant is going to be in the mix at Georgia, but from what I’m hearing, Grant is a longshot for that job at best. I’ve also heard that USC’s Tim Floyd might be a candidate at Alabama, but I find it hard to believe he will go there. Not only did Floyd just get a commitment from Renardo Sidney, one of the best high school players in America, but he’s a low-key guy who likes nothing more than being able to walk into a restaurant and have nobody recognize him. He certainly won’t have that in Tuscaloosa.

Otherwise, I still believe the Arizona vacancy is Mark Few’s to turn down. While the decision won’t necessarily come down to money, Arizona is going to have to demonstrate a commitment to Few that goes beyond his own salary. Right now, Gonzaga flies a charter to many of its road games, and Few has the use of a private plane for his recruiting trips. For a man who is so devoted to his wife and three young children, that is no small issue. If Arizona can’t lock down Few, then I’m hearing the school is likely to go after Tubby Smith or Reggie Theus. The sleeper? UNLV coach Lon Kruger, who is familiar with that area of the country, won’t cost too much money and, most important, is a great coach who spent time in the NBA. You cannot overstate how big of an asset a pro background is with prospective recruits.

I usually try to avoid speculating on jobs that are not vacant, but unfortunately that is part of the job. That said, I can tell you that all eyes in the college basketball world are on Lexington, Ky. While it may be hard to believe that the school would get rid of Billy Gillispie after two years, I am getting indications that athletic director Mitch Barnhart could very well be moving in that direction. There is a concern that if Gillispie comes back, many of his players will either turn pro or transfer. One well-placed source told me last week that the decision to remove Gillispie was already “done.” I believe that was overstated, but Barnhart’s relative silence on this matter has been deafening. I left a message for Barnhart over the weekend and my call was returned not by him, but by an athletic spokesman, who naturally told me Barnhart had no comment on the matter. If Barnhart thinks he can wait another few weeks until Kentucky is done playing to resolve this matter, he is sorely mistaken.

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(sarcasm warning)…I am just wondering who in the hell would want to coach at Kentucky? Those fans are crazy! Obviously they won’t be able to attract any good coaches after the way they have run away a National Champion in Tubby Smith and now pressured Gillispie after just two years. This is probably a lot like Indiana who ran away a great guy in Mike Davis (who took the Hoosiers to the National Championship game). Obviously, these horrible fans are ruining these once great programs. No good coaches will want to work somewhere that wants to win so badly.

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147 Responses to Coaching Carousel Comments (Updated 3/18)

  1. buttPACKer 03/17/2009 at 3:52 PM #

    A few of us need to head out to OK with a gunny-sack (sp?) and bring back Joe Castiglione. . .

  2. packbackr04 03/17/2009 at 3:56 PM #

    IS THERE ANY INDICATION THAT SID COULD BE LET BEFORE NEXT YEAR? IF GILLESPIE BECOMES AVAILABLE, HE NEEDS TO BE HIRED IMMEDIATELY!

  3. Noah 03/17/2009 at 3:56 PM #

    Reggie Theus? Really?

    I’d much rather have Kruger than Theus.

  4. Rochester 03/17/2009 at 4:01 PM #

    Doesn’t it concern anyone that things have gone so badly for Gillespie at Kentucky? Why would we embrace him with no questions asked if he’s basically getting run out of there?

  5. TOBtime 03/17/2009 at 4:03 PM #

    Wow! Billy G. “done” after 2 years. I didn’t think he would meet Kentucky fans expectations as fast as they wanted but I didn’t see that coming either.
    Are you sure Billy would be the right fit in Raleigh? We did beat GT but Kentucky figured out a way to lose to GA. Just sayin…

  6. tvp1 03/17/2009 at 4:11 PM #

    Count me in as being extremely wary of Gillespie after his Kentucky debacle, assuming that it does end up as a debacle.

  7. ktoh 03/17/2009 at 4:15 PM #

    How long do you really think Sid would have lasted anywhere but here? And he still has people saying give him more time blah,blah .

  8. RickJ 03/17/2009 at 4:20 PM #

    “Virginia is a first-rate university, it has a brand new arena and an excellent recruiting base. Plus, if you finish third in the ACC, they build you a statue.”

    This statement says a lot about the current state of the ACC. Basically, you have two teams that are considered the Harlem Globetrotters and the other 10 teams are the Washington Generals.

  9. tootallorder 03/17/2009 at 4:22 PM #

    From Davis’ article: “The sleeper? UNLV coach Lon Kruger, who is familiar with that area of the country, won’t cost too much money and, most important, is a great coach who spent time in the NBA. You cannot overstate how big of an asset a pro background is with prospective recruits.”

    Anyone catch that last sentence?

  10. choppack1 03/17/2009 at 4:44 PM #

    tootall – I did. Pitino, Cal and Kruger all have that. As does Mike Montgomery now. So does Leonard Hamilton.

  11. choppack1 03/17/2009 at 4:47 PM #

    Gillespie’s struggles are something to watch. One has to believe that he was/is recruiting different players at UK than he did at Texas A&M…and w/out intending any offense to potential big-time hoops recruits – many of these highly rated recruits are prima donna’s.

    It’s easy to overcome this once you have earned some jewelry or at least established yourself as one of the elite college coaches, but we’ve seen a lot of coaches have trouble making this transition.

  12. whitefang 03/17/2009 at 4:50 PM #

    ktoh good point. He would have had thru this year at most, probably would have been gone after last year with the implosion that happened.

  13. Noah 03/17/2009 at 5:10 PM #

    I am not a Gillespie fan. BJD is the only one I’ve seen thinking he’d be a good fit here. I kinda think his success at Tex. A&M was a fluke.

  14. wufpup76 03/17/2009 at 5:11 PM #

    I read this earlier today, and Davis went on to say that Jerry Wainwright at Depaul should “definitely be back next season. He’s a great guy who inherited a really tough situation. I certainly hope he is back. But this business is crazy.”

    ^I paraphrased a bit, but that is pretty much a direct quote. I was tempted to post all of that here, but resisted … anyway – Wainwright went 0-18 in the Big East in his 4th season and according to Davis he should totally “be back” becuase he is a “great guy”. Be careful who with who the info is coming from 🙁 .

    Wainwright actually replaced none other than Dave Leitao at Depaul … Leitao had actually managed to get the Blue Demons to the NCAA’s earler this decade.

    This is not to disparage Wainwright and his famous suit ties. I like him … he is funny, and probably a great guy like Davis says. He did a great job at Wilmington and then Richmond after that. But in college basketball you have national media people who have zero standards of accountability and performance. None.

    These coaches are supposed to make in the six and seven figures and not have to meet any reasonable performance standards according to people like Davis … not to mention that most contracts allow for huge buyout sums akin to the “golden parachute” packages so many of the fantastic corporate executives allow themselves after they rip off their employees and consumers. Why don’t we ask the government to set up a bailout plan for college basketball coaches? These guys really *suffer* and they need our help!

    One more thing about Davis: he recently came out with a book that he pushed incessantly everytime his smug face appeared on CBS … The book focused on the 1979 Michigan St. vs. Indiana St. game featuring Magic Johnson and Larry Bird. The name of the book? “When March Went Mad” … Some of you may recognize this as a familiar book title. That’s because it is a direct ripoff of Tim Peeler’s excellent entry of “When March Went Mad” focusing on Jimmy V, State and their 1983 run. Peeler’s book has been out for a few years now. Oh, and Seth Davis went to Duke – and is as smug, know-it-all, and unapologetic as you’d expect him to be.

    Anyway, the moral of the story is that you should be careful about who’s providing the information. These national media guys actually have a tremendous impact on this stuff and are not at all above serving their own best interests while being completely unprofessional, not to mention biased and slanted. Conflicts of interest abound in that world … State fans don’t need to look too far or wide. They can bury a coach and/or program if you get on their bad side, and they can take a poor-to-average coach and make him attain Hall of Fame status before your very eyes if they so choose. (The casual college basketball fan probably thinks Herb Sendek is the second coming of John Wooden at this point).

    If you’re a State fan and like Davis, then God Bless you – for you are better than I.

  15. leewolf 03/17/2009 at 5:12 PM #

    Kentucky firing Gillespie would be an interesting move, I wonder who they would try to go after in that case.

    UVA has options, not sure if anyone is going to be able to pry either Capel or Smith away from their current gigs. Capel, like Barnes did to our detriment, has to recognize that he is well-payed and at a job where there is no where near the pressure of the ACC. Things could end badly if he went to UVA, or he could stay at OU and continue to do very well in a fairly top-heavy conference. I think it is more likely UVA ends up in the Anthony Grant sweepstakes with UGA and Alabama.

    I’m definitely going to be paying attention to how some coaches do in the tournament this year and to some next year in the even that Sidney does not get the job done next year.

  16. pack fan 03/17/2009 at 5:13 PM #

    Whitefang, you and ktoh are right on the money. The Sid story is a nice one with the 83 championship and all of that history, but if you cant get this job done, then its time to go. I am sure there would be another NBA spot for him somewhere. I guess we will have to wait and see.

  17. wufpup76 03/17/2009 at 5:14 PM #

    “I am not a Gillespie fan. BJD is the only one I’ve seen thinking he’d be a good fit here. I kinda think his success at Tex. A&M was a fluke.”

    For whatever reason, Gillespie was woshiped in Texas. No doubt this helped him both at UTEP and then at A&M. I’m not sure it was a fluke, but I’d say he is not worshiped in the bluegrass region.

  18. ADVENTUROO 03/17/2009 at 5:34 PM #

    You know, I REALLY HATE the WAR HOOPS of the FSU folks…but I plan to pull for them, HARD, in the Dance.

    For those that are into Sid Bashing…why don’t you do a little research…here is a link.

    http://seminoles.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/hamilton_leonard00.html

    Leonard Hamilton is in his 7th YEAR at FSU…he did not have, I think, an illustrious career in the NBA.

    I think we need to let the BB Season RIP. I went to Crabtree last night and shook Sid’s hand and wished him well…and told him I was looking forward to watching HIS and MY team next year.

    This negativity HAS to stop….

  19. redfred2 03/17/2009 at 6:02 PM #

    X

  20. 61Packer 03/17/2009 at 6:23 PM #

    The Wolfpack has tried to re-invent the wheel two times too many with their last two men’s basketball hires. We’ve looked at this thing too much like a marriage where we’re committed for life, and it shouldn’t be that way. We ought to be able to hire someone with the idea that if in 3 years he doesn’t have things turned around, he’s outta here. If it works in Chapel Hill, it’ll work here. I’m really tired of NC State trying to re-invent the wheel, and I’m also tired of hearing State fans rave about the importance of an NBA background in a prospective new coach. As far as I’m concerned, the NBA is a cancer to just about everything related to basketball. Name just ONE good thing the NBA has done for the college game lately, if ever.

    There are plenty of good coaches out there who have no NBA background. My favorite one is the guy who was hired by Texas Tech a few years ago and who said, when his hiring was aired live on ESPN, that Texas Tech’s arena was one of the two finest in America, the other being the ESA in Raleigh, North Carolina. Bob Knight has never minced words.

    I know this is a dream, because we’re stuck with Sidney Lowe for as long as he wants this job, and I can assure you that he ain’t gonna voluntarily quit. But one thing to be said about bringing in someone like Coach Knight would be that we would no longer have any empty seats at home games, EVER, and believe me, despite the high number of sold LTR seats, attendance is going to take a major hit next season; it’s already down from two seasons ago. With Knight, we’d have instant name recognition, which would elevate us from a sometimes ESPNU team to ESPN prime time. Could you imagine the national interest of Knight vs Coach K, Roy or Gary? We’d have someone who wouldn’t have to be paid a king’s ransom over ten years or so, and we’d have someone who’d be able to recruit the type of players many of us fans would like to support. There’d be no more shitheads like Brandon Costner and Courtney Fells, and no more NBA one-and-done wannabes like JJ Hickson. And one more page of nostalgia- we’d have a coach who would teach fundamantals, like playing defense and blocking out, and smart shot selection. And Knight would probably leave in place a staff that could take our program forward after his departure 4 or 5 years down the road.

    Despite the fact Knight has hinted he’d be open to coaching again, I need to stop dreaming. This is NC State, nothing good in basketball is ever going to happen here again. We’re the only ACC school this season that didn’t put either of its basketball teams in the post-season. We’re a program that hasn’t enjoyed an ACC men’s championship since the 1980s, and really haven’t even come close to one. We’re a school led by a bunch of administrative egghead dorks whose arrogance and stupidity about all things athletic are second to none. They prove it each passing day that Lee Fowler is retained as our AD.

  21. wolfpacker24 03/17/2009 at 6:48 PM #

    I’ve lurked around here for a few years now, but haven’t felt compelled to post until after reading 61Packer’s comment above. Truer words have never been typed than the last paragraph, and I think this pretty much sums up how we all feel right now.

  22. JeremyH 03/17/2009 at 6:58 PM #

    my head was about to explode until I saw 61packer’s post. it ain’t a statefansnation thread without a fowler rant in it.

  23. BJD95 03/17/2009 at 7:06 PM #

    Uh, no. I was screaming as loud as anybody.

    I am being logically consistent. If proven mediocrity wasn’t good enough for NC State (and I believe it wasn’t), then neither should proven abject failure. And I believe Lowe is 95 percent likely to fail. That other 5 percent isn’t enough for me to hold back judgment.

  24. wolfpack4evermore 03/17/2009 at 7:06 PM #

    redfred2
    March 17th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
    Adventeroo, look around, look at who the worst offenders are, they’re HERB LOVERS, all of them and every single one of them.

    I have no problem with complaints, I have some of my own, but this relentless and IGNORANT negativity is unjustified.

    If you people are just naturally prone to getting this upset over losing games late, poor play, coupled with pitiful effort and coaching, then why IN THE HELL weren’t you SCREAMING this LOUD SIX F’N YEARS AGO???!!!

    I Second That Statement and I Wish the Motion Would Be Passed!!!!! I, too, have concerns about Sidney Lowe. However, Herb had peaked at high mediocre and never got any further. Presently, the other option to Sidney is Foulup disgracing the program futher with another men’s basketball coaching search. I may be on the other side of the grass in 10 years, but that is how long HWSNBN was here. If it had been up to Foulup, HWSNBN would have a lifetime contract by now.

  25. James 03/17/2009 at 7:10 PM #

    The relentless negativity is indicative of a hopeless fanbase. It’s indicative of the fact that our administration refuses to manage our athletics program effectively. Nor do we have any hope that will change. That’s reality, friends.

    It’s not all smiles and sunshine.

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