Legislature Panel Recommends Making It Tougher To Admit Out-of-State Athletes

I figure it’s as good a time as any to start turning the page away from basketball and to other topics, namely the coming football spring practices and spring game, as well as other various and sundry items of note and interest.

The State Legislature is in town, so hold on to your wallets, and duck if you are a university.

University of North Carolina schools could have a tougher time attracting out-of-state athletes under a pair of changes proposed in the state Legislature.

A House education subcommittee approved legislation Thursday narrowing a 2005 provision counting out-of-state athletes as in-state students. The law costs taxpayers about $7 million a year. The law helps university booster clubs that provide athletic scholarships, because those athletes are charged in-state tuition even if they’re not North Carolina residents. The changes would keep the tuition savings but count those out-of-state students in a cap that limits out-of-staters to 18 percent of each freshman class.

First of all, it is a red herring to say that out-of-state athletes “taxpayers about $7 million a year” and is shoddy, un-sourced journalism at its worst. Where does this number come from? A hat?  Or made up by a sanctimonious state senator?  WRAL doesn’t bother to tell us where they came up with that number, so make up your mind for yourself.

The important issue is to take a quick look at the income derived from these athletes — and we’ll assume that the bulk of them come from the two revenue sports.  We’ll start by referring you to a good summary and glimpse into the financials of NC State’s Athletics.

SFN: On The Cheap – NCSU’s Athletics Versus The Rest of the ACC

Forbes.com

NC State’s basketball program, ranked 13th, is worth $13.6 million. With expenses of only $3.1 million, the lowest of any team on our list, the NC State Wolfpack earned a profit of $7.9 million last season.

That’s with a dozen scholarship athletes.  That means that each player earned — after expenses, mind you — $658,333.33 for the benefit of NC State University.  “Expenses” surely covers tuition, books, as well as room and board for each of the kids.  Quibble with the numbers however you like, but what remains a solid fact is that each one of those undergraduates bring NC State a lot of net income for their play on the court.  I seriously doubt there are any undergrads anywhere in the entire university that bring in that much money.  And the legislature wants to charge the Wolfpack Club more money for their education?

You have to be kidding me.

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29 Responses to Legislature Panel Recommends Making It Tougher To Admit Out-of-State Athletes

  1. highstick 03/17/2009 at 9:12 PM #

    Good letter, JVM. I’ll be interested to see if you get the same type response that I’ve always gotten.

  2. PackMan97 03/18/2009 at 6:14 AM #

    I fail to see how treating athletes the same as every other student is wrong. If they are out of state, the booster clubs should have to pay out of state tuition. Simple.

  3. Wolf74 03/18/2009 at 6:43 AM #

    “UNC-Ch is the school who pushed for this just a couple of years ago so they could admit more out of state students…”
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    UNC-CH did do this and I was outragged. I called and wrote all my Congressmen. One actually called me back and we had a long discussion about how he supported the limits on out of state students and was not happy that the NC tax payers actually ended up paying for about 6% of each out of state students educational costs. The UNC system is first and foremost in existance to educate the sons and daughters of the people of NC -contrary to what the UNC-ch BOT thinks. Thier Duke envy has just blinded that bunch over there and they keep trying to use the term “diversity” to justify their short sighted envy driven agenda. They are a public school, just like all the UNC system schools and I feel strongly instate students should get preference. Fortunately we only have one school in the system like that or many NC taxpayers would have to send their sons and daughters to out of state or private schools at a much higher cost.

    Athletes should be counted in those limits. As for the rates the out of state athletes are billed at: Any changes in that would hurt smaller schools much more than an NCSU or UNC-CH who have large athletic budgets so I am not opposed in leaving the rates the same as for in state students.

  4. Wulfpack 03/18/2009 at 8:38 PM #

    JVM, I hate to burst your bubble, but unless you have significant influence, your letter won’t reach the right desk and will be tossed without a second thought. You write with passion and conviction, however I think you ought to be a little more diplomatic if you expect to illicit any sort of response, which is doubtful.

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