NCAA Considering Draconian Celebration Rule for CFB

Something worth mentioning and keeping in mind:

Taunting of Scoring Plays Might Wipe Out Touchdowns

The NCAA rules committee is considering disallowing a touchdown if a player is flagged for taunting during a scoring play.

Citing an increasing concern over unsportsmanlike conduct, rules committee chairman Mike Bellotti said Wednesday that his group is considering “a major change” to the taunting rules.

Currently, “taunting, baiting or ridiculing an opponent verbally” is considered a dead-ball foul. Penalty yardage is assessed on the next kickoff. If the rule is changed, penalty yardage would be marked off from the spot of the foul and the touchdown would be nullified.

Simply explained: Think of an offensive player, headed toward the end zone, turning to show a defender the ball in a taunting manner before he crosses the goal line. That play would be considered a live-ball foul.

“It would be treated like a clip, for example,” said Rogers Redding, NCAA secretary-rules editor.

That would make the NCAA’s already-silly rules even worse and leave game-changing penalties in the subjective opinoin of referees.  These are young men we are talking about here, and scoring a touchdown, especially in critical game situations, is a big deal to them — and one where emotions might get the better of them.

Imagine a scenario where a team scores a last-second TD and wins the game, with players collapsing in a pile of joyous celebration.  “Not so fast,” the referee thinks, and tosses out a flag that calls the TD back and turns a victory into a loss.  The catch John Dunlap made against BC a few years ago in Carter-Finley comes to mind.  There certainly was a lot of rambunctious celebration afterward.  If an ACC referee decided that State’s players had been giving BC “the business” then that win turns into a loss.

Good thing that Tom O’Brien demands discipline from his players.  This new rule could really hurt a looser bunch. 2010 Daytona 500

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32 Responses to NCAA Considering Draconian Celebration Rule for CFB

  1. Sw0rdf1sh 02/13/2009 at 9:04 PM #

    Holy Cow. One more way for Ref’s to impact the outcome of a game. Hello…my name is Donaghy and I’m a honest Ref.

    Crap ass rule to be voted on in my opinion.

  2. jwrenn29 02/13/2009 at 9:12 PM #

    What the crap!? I agree taunting in college is ridiculous, but dang. Solving the ridiculous by applying the ridiculous is ridiculous.

  3. highstick 02/13/2009 at 9:12 PM #

    By golly, we’re not gonna have any more of State beating us 41-10! Butch Davis, 2/11/09

  4. Sw0rdf1sh 02/13/2009 at 9:14 PM #

    Damn you Ron Cherry. (while I’m at it)

  5. Sw0rdf1sh 02/13/2009 at 9:15 PM #

    What the F is up with my gravatar too? Damn YOU Ron Cherry!

  6. wufpup76 02/13/2009 at 9:21 PM #

    We’ll see how “selectively” this rule gets enforced …

    And by selectively I mean which teams will be penalized … kinda like Julius Hodge’s reputation would result in him being assesed a technical after slapping the backboard on a dunk each time he did it, whereas numerous other players from numerous other teams could do it w/out penalty

    Sure, there’s no slippery slope nor potential conflict-of-interest issues here … Nope, nuh-uhh

  7. beowolf 02/13/2009 at 9:25 PM #

    That’s frigging insane. Just terrible.

  8. wolfpack95 02/13/2009 at 9:29 PM #

    An awful proposal.

  9. tractor57 02/13/2009 at 9:46 PM #

    I prefer the Bear Bryant “act like you’ve been there” but this goes WAY over the top.
    Already the flags thrown under the current rules are extremely subjective and quite unevenly applied.

  10. Greywolf 02/13/2009 at 9:47 PM #

    I heartily agree with any and all who are gagging on this ludicrous rule possibility. At the same time I would like to see some action that would make players think twice about taunting. For a team leading by 4 or 5 TDs, a 15 yd penalty on the KOff is not much of a penalty. Second offence by a TEAM resulting in a one game suspension for the offending player might be more fair and more effective. Referees should be given some lattitude in enforcement like hockey refs have. A check on one hit and a roughing call on a similar hit but one that endangers the opponent is seen frequently. Joyful celebration of a game winning TD is different than a swan dive in the EZ or in-your-face taunting — although I don’t see it to be THAT big a deal about a dive into the end zone.

    What about penalties like hockey or soccer? 2 minutes in the penalty box for personal fouls. Team plays with only 10 players for 2 minutes. Two personal fouls and you get a red flag and disqualified for the rest of the game and all of the next. Your team plays a man down for that game but full side the next. Do you think FSU would clean its act up a bit?

    The pros occasionally will end a career or season with an illegal hit. We don’t see it a lot in the college game but it’s there. I’d like to see matching suspensions for injury causing hits that could be prevented. This applies to hockey far more than football but I like the principle. Let it be viewed on film, not give the refs life and death power.

  11. BJD95 02/13/2009 at 10:18 PM #

    The NCAA. Forever a remedy in search of a problem.

    There is absolutely no reason to call these penalties as frequently as they already do, let alone step it up further.

    I’d rather just see somebody knock the offender flat on his ass and let that be that.

  12. tcthdi-tgsf-twhwtnc 02/13/2009 at 10:28 PM #

    I’ve seen players dive into the end zone and it brings a 15 yard penalty and I’ve seen players dive into the end zone and the play be praised by the announcers. How the hell can officials determine if a player dives to score or to showboat?

  13. highstick 02/13/2009 at 10:40 PM #

    Regarding the avatar, if you set it higher than a “G” rating, it won’t work. Delete and do it again and select “G”. I had the same problem.

  14. 61Packer 02/13/2009 at 10:56 PM #

    The current excessive celebration rule is in my opinion the worst rule in sports. These idiots who can’t tell the difference between a taunt and an honest celebration are ruining sports. Just HOW does an official know when that invisible line has been crossed? Is it ok for 5 people to cheer for their team scoring a TD but when 6 or more join in then the flag is thrown? It isn’t going to be cut-and-dry in the rulebook. Damn it, you’re SUPPOSED to cheer when your team scores! But now, with this bunch of politically correct NCAA nitwit officials trying to re-define what happens on the field, there’s no telling what will happen next. My guess is that they’ll impose the “slaughter rule” when someone gets so many points ahead and stop the game. And when the fans complain that the games are being stopped in the third quarter, then they’ll just quit keeping score.

  15. turfpack 02/13/2009 at 11:20 PM #

    Football is a game-right?
    You are aloud to have fun-right?
    AHHHHH-NO NCAA-WRONG!!!!!!!!!!
    I coach H.S. football -What’s next -AHHH Let’s not keep score it might hurt someone’s feelings.
    It’s one thing to blantly taunt a player or team – it should be flaged -but the possible new rule is taking it way to far.If you take the fun out of the game why would you want to play?
    Typical political correct BULL&%$#!

  16. coppertop 02/13/2009 at 11:24 PM #

    IS there a way to make our opinion known to those who could make this decision.. It’s a little out of control.

  17. Astral Rain 02/13/2009 at 11:51 PM #

    This is ridiculous, but the suits will ruin the game for us.

  18. TOBtime 02/14/2009 at 7:59 AM #

    I hate this rule as much as anybody but agree something needs to be done. What? How to enforce it? It’s crazy to put this on the backs off already incompetent refs- especially ACC referees. What if the occasion occurs in an SEC game with 2 teams capable of playing for the NC? This thing would be a nightmare.

  19. Sw0rdf1sh 02/14/2009 at 8:15 AM #

    Grassyass Highstick.

  20. imawolf 02/14/2009 at 8:47 AM #

    If the NCAA rules commitee wants to implement something of useful value, the they should eject foul mouthed basketball coaches ie…VA TECH, among others. Here they could actually cite the sportsmanlike conduct………..which is obviously hypocritical to the commercials in which they appear. There are children at these games and it just absloutely amazes me that this goes on among these coaches….

  21. BJD95 02/14/2009 at 8:52 AM #

    Simple – it’s an ANNOYANCE, not a significant problem, and should be treated as such. Penalize only blatant taunts, and assess on the kickoff. Let it be a mitigating factor if the taunter gets pounded by an opponent for his antics.

    You already had one example last year of the refs changing the outcome of a game over a questionable celebration penalty (UW flagged on last second TD against BYU, had to attempt 35-yd extra point, which was missed or blocked). In the aftermath of that, the NCAA thinks the zebras should get even more involved in deciding outcomes by their subjective view of player etiquette?

  22. redfred2 02/14/2009 at 9:00 AM #

    This is the kind of stuff that makes you have to wonder about any rulings/judgements that they make/or ever have made regarding things that don’t impact the entirity of college sports.

    This is a make up call.

    This is for not having the b*lls to have set clear guidelines many, many years ago. This is all part of being PC to the MAX, and finally figuring out that in reality, that it is not exactly the way things work best for the overall game, or the kids involved.

    Allow all kinds of celebrating, the game wouldn’t be any fun without it. Allow a kid to jump up and be absolutely estatic about what he just did. Just no pre-planned, choreographed, HEY LOOK AT ME!!! and what I came up with in front of the mirror, kind of C-R-A-P!!!

  23. Sweet jumper 02/14/2009 at 9:11 AM #

    Stupid rule. This will just give the refs another way to control the outcome of the game on a “judgement” call. This too will get out of hand just like the “intentional” foul has gotten out of hand in bball.

    Florida State better watch out because when Amato was here, we might have had all our touchdowns taken away for excessive celebrating!

  24. redfred2 02/14/2009 at 9:45 AM #

    Sweet jumper, you may say that it is a “stupid rule”, but that’s in hindsight, and only because the behavior has been allowed to flourish without any real restraint until now possibly.

    IF the NCAA had reacted to this “ME, ME, ME” crapola earlier, and not let it get so out of hand, it wouldn’t be a big issue and then there would be no need for a “stupid” rule now.

  25. TheCOWDOG 02/14/2009 at 10:36 AM #

    NCAA won’t consider this, but here’s a practical solution that will keep grandstanding zebras out of the equation and satisfy the PC police.

    All games are currently reviewed by officials commity. That said, take the taunting/excessive celebration penalty off the field completely.

    The first infraction gets the offending team an officil warning. Subsequent infractions are determined by conference officials upon game review.

    Behavior determined to be excessive lands the offending school a monetary fine.
    See how fast the rediculous field antics are removed when hit in the wallet.

    Satisfies keeping those kinds of game changers off the field and gives the NCAA something to hang their oversized hats on.

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