Pack Wins In Lowe-vertime: NCSU 84 – Miami 81

UPDATE: 850 The Buzz has put post-game interviews online.

Julius Mays sank a three-pointer from the top of the key with 2.8 ticks left on the clock to give NC State a three point win in OT.  Sidney Lowe moved to 5-0 in overtime games, and he did so with a combination of solid coaching moves, tenacity by his team on the floor and some good luck at key moments down the stretch of the extra period.

1 2 OT T
Miami Hurricanes 25 45 11 81
NCSU Wolfpack 39 31 14 84

Courtney Fells had 24 points to lead the Wolfpack, who blew a 19-point lead early in the second half and a pair of leads late in regulation and in overtime before Mays shot sealed the win for the Pack. Brandon Costner added 21 points and Ben McCauley had 12.

Your post-game thoughts here.

ht: “russelbuzz” of 850 The Buzz’s Blog for “Lowe-vertime” phrase.  We like it.
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186 Responses to Pack Wins In Lowe-vertime: NCSU 84 – Miami 81

  1. BJD95 01/28/2009 at 9:53 PM #

    RF – as Wulfpack said, don’t create strawmen. All we are saying is that an isolated good game in a sea of futility means nothing (i.e., that basically sums up the entire Les Robinson era). Build on it. Develop more consistency. Sure, there will inevitably be some stinkers, but they can’t be every other time out.

    Chop – I love your posts, at least in part because they make me feel better about my own observations and opinions! I also don’t want to take away from the win, which is why I mentioned the “Robinsonesque” barrage of 3s as coming from my more pessimistic side (the same side that thought we’d go 1-15 after the GT game). Look at it as a worst case scenario, not what I think to be the most likely meaning. It will almost certainly be somewhere between “Robinsonesque” and “We turned the corner!”

  2. smile102 01/29/2009 at 8:57 AM #

    wufpup76No Gravatar
    Jan 28th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    “HOLY COW!!!!!

    An actual OVER THE BACK call on everybody’s all america … TWO FOULS on Hansbraughhh in 6 minutes

    That has to be it … no way they call him for another one for the rest of the game”

    4 fouls, the last one a bad call that could have altered the outcome, and no foul shots…

  3. waxhaw 01/29/2009 at 9:08 AM #

    We overcame a hot McClinton and a couple of horrendous calls down the stretch to win.

    Moving Fells to the 2 and inserting Smith in the starting lineup was a great move. (in fairness, I thought moving Fells away from the 2 was a bad move to begin with)

    We haven’t seen Javi in a while and Degand continues to return to form.

    Mays is going to be pretty good but he still makes mistakes as all freshmen do. He had a couple of crucial turnovers. That was an awesome shot he made to win the game (along with a couple of others). However, he is going to have to learn that you can’t wait until 7-8 seconds are on the clock to make your move. Especially with his lack of speed.

    I am hopeful that this team is going to gradually get better as the year goes on. I don’t think you will see anything like last year.

  4. Noah 01/29/2009 at 9:17 AM #

    I’m not saying we have to have gratitude for him being here, he’s not the messiah, no matter how many games he wins. I am saying he deserves the respect that we should automatically give one of our own in his situation.

    This is the attitude that will doom NC State to the cellar for the rest of my life.

    “Us vs. Them. Everyone else can kiss my ***.”

    If I was Lowe’s agent, I’d tell him, “Make sure that in every interview you give, you bring up Valvano. Make sure you use ‘Don’t EVER give up’ everytime you lose. Those suckers will eat that crap up. And when you do the rubber chicken circuit in the off-season, tell some V stories and jokes and remind everyone that you single-handidly won the national title in 1983. You’ll be coach for life.”

  5. wufpup76 01/29/2009 at 10:36 AM #

    “4 fouls, the last one a bad call that could have altered the outcome, and no foul shots …”

    ^yes, I saw that smile, and my mouth was gaped open in amazement over the fact that the refs dared miss a call on THE #50 TYLER HANSBROUGH

    And I gotta tell ya, IT FELT REALLY GOOD TO SEE

    Way to take that way too literal … Is that the exception or the norm – you tell me?

    How many calls have I seen missed in his favor??? Plenty … plenty that have actually ALTERED GAMES (Walk much? Physical play that always goes in his favor for whatever reason?)

    It’s about freakin time the whistles don’t get swallowed in his favor … Don’t worry, I’m sure you’ll be happy on Saturday though … The wrong that was so vehemently perpetuated against Mr. Hansbrough will be more than made up for

    Aside, you don’t have to take it so literal … I’m just having fun watching the game

    Serious question, how many times have we seen #50 either have 3 fouls in one half, foul out, or not shoot 10+ free throws?

    We’re in statiscal anomaly territory when any of those factors are true, much less two of them in one game … And your team still won the game somehow, so what’s there to worry about? It’s highly unlikely any 2 of those 3 factors will occur in the same game again this season … If the game is called evenly on both ends it might, but the edict to protect #50 has already I’m sure been issued and circulated by Swofford and Clougherty

    “Long live the 50!!!”

    (Some of this was said in jest, so have some fun)

  6. Classof89 01/29/2009 at 10:37 AM #

    ^^
    and this is the same attitude that will doom our women’s team to decades of suckage if, out of sorrow over Coach Yow’s passing and respect for her legacy, we hand the permanent job over to her long-time assistant without first engaging in a search process. Maybe Coach Glance has what it takes. She has certainly earned the right to apply for the job. But I’d sure like to see us go after the likes of the Coaches at Baylor and Purdue, both of whom have won national championships at schools we should be able to complete with from a Coach’s compensation and program resources standpoint.

  7. redfred2 01/29/2009 at 12:40 PM #

    “This is the attitude that will doom NC State to the cellar for the rest of my life.”

    Noah, I don’t think so. Mr Herby Boy wasn’t an alum, and look how long was he allowed to cling on.

    The attitude that has already doomed NC State to this point is that of a bunch of panty-waisters who just want to LOOK good, as well as trying to be SOOO pleasing and politically correct to anyone and everyone in the general public, that they come off as a joke and annoying as H E L L instead.

  8. Dr. BadgerPack 01/29/2009 at 3:43 PM #

    FWIW, Several womens head coaches and commentators with whom I have spoken all think Glance can be an excellent coach. In fact, one particular coach blasted Fowler as recently as last year because she felt Lee would not give Glance a chance to get the job.

  9. redfred2 01/29/2009 at 5:36 PM #

    “If I was Lowe’s agent, I’d tell him, “Make sure that in every interview you give, you bring up Valvano. Make sure you use ‘Don’t EVER give up’ everytime you lose. Those suckers will eat that crap up. And when you do the rubber chicken circuit in the off-season, tell some V stories and jokes and remind everyone that you single-handidly won the national title in 1983. You’ll be coach for life.”

    Noah, that’s funny, and you’re probably referring to someone like me specifically with that statement. While there may be people that actually would stick up for Sidney for simply preaching that kind of stuff, and doing nothing else, that is not me though. I just believe that the circumstances from the onset of Lowe’s hire were much more dire than you and many others care to believe. That is just my personal opinion though.

    I think that whether Sidney Lowe works out or not, that whomever had taken over at that time would have struggled to right this ship. Lowe’s lack of experience in MANY areas, as well as him not having the recruiting connections that any other college BB coach might have had from the IMMEDIATE second that they stepped into the job, HAS definitely slowed the ‘recovery’ process. That has been frustrating for all of us.

    You may think I’m a sap for it, but I do want our past (as in VERY DISTANT) to be drummed into these kids/players heads though. That’s simply because if all that these kids know of NC State athletics is the type of BB that they have seen in THEIR short lifetimes, then I’m saying that they’re probably thinking that there isn’t much expected from them once they arrive in Raleigh, so what the hell. There can be a deep sense of pride and some major confidence derived from the absolute knowledge that it can done, and that we should be doing it RIGHT NOW, because WE HAVE DONE IT, and we have done it A-L-L on more than just one ocassion before.

    But, and like it or not, you do have to go back in time to draw upon anything that evokes real pride at all in putting on that NC State BB uniform.

  10. Wulfpack 01/30/2009 at 8:29 AM #

    “FWIW, Several womens head coaches and commentators with whom I have spoken all think Glance can be an excellent coach.”

    She will be a fantastic head coach. And if it isn’t at N.C. tate, you can bet your ass it will be somewhere else. She has been tremendously loyal and is deserving of the opportunity.

  11. Classof89 01/30/2009 at 9:49 AM #

    ^ I’m hoping recruiting will take an immediate and significant bump because of the positive national attention to Yow’s legacy as well as the fact that the “will your coach be alive next year?” card won’t be hanging out there to be used against us in recruiting.

    “She has been tremendously loyal and is deserving of the opportunity.”

    Not trying to bust Glance’s chops, but has she actually turned down Division I head coaching opportunities? If not, what is the basis for the “loyalty” observation?

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