Rivals: If ND Fires Weis, Irish Might Make a Run At TOB (Updated 7pm)

Final Update: Irisheyes.com, the Scout Notre Dame football franchise, reports that Charlie Weis is set to return for 2009.

The discussion below is not for nothing, however, as the fact is that Tom O’Brien will become a person of interest for bigger programs looking to improve their coaching situation.  While O’Brien has said that NC State is his last coaching stop, common sense says that keeping the coach and his staff happy is the prudent thing to do.


Silly Season for college football is upon us, and coaches who have failed in their current positions might be finding pink slips under their Christmas trees.  Perhaps the highest profile potential opening so far this year might be Notre Dame, where Charlie Weiss has thus failed to live up to his NFL resume and great fanfare…and might be fired after a review of his program is completed this week.

Ordinarily, that’s of only passing interest to NC State fans, but the media is starting its routine of pulling random names from the hat:

Rivals.com: Coaching Carousel

“If Charlie Weis is forced out at Notre Dame, don’t be shocked to see the Irish make runs at Cincinnati’s Brian Kelly and N.C. State’s Tom O’Brien.”

O’Brien is still building NC State’s program in his image, and the late season surge by the Wolfpack has been noted by the media and undoubtedly by Athletic Directors like Notre Dame’s Jack Swarbrick.  For their part, the Irish have made no definitive statement that Weiss is out of a job:

Chicago Tribune: Weiss, Irish AD Set To Meet Next Week

“Nothing will happen until we complete the entire review process,” Swarbrick said late Saturday night outside the Irish locker room. “We do that as a regular course. It doesn’t assume something will happen.”

“Swarbrick and the university president, Rev. John Jenkins, watched firsthand the dismantling that occurred at Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum. If experience is instructive, prudence should drive their every twitch in this process.”

That process might include another run at Urban Meyer, the coach they thought that the Irish had on board when they dismissed Tyrone Willingham in 2004.  From the same Chicago Tribune article:

[…] a window that presumably opens after Saturday’s Southeastern Conference championship game and stays that way for 40 days — a week past the BCS title game on 1/8 –  should Florida beat Alabama to win the SEC title.

Considering that Urban Meyer already said NO to Notre Dame once, it’s hard to imagine him leaving the gentle climate, rabid fanbase and deep pockets of The Swamp for the raw autumn afternoons on Notre Dame; but some people still consider Notre Dame college football royalty despite the fact that they have not won a bowl game since 1994.

When looking to deep pockets in college sports, one need  look no further than the Irish — they’re the only FBS team with its own national television deal, and the only team that has special standing in the BCS.  And, they will need those deep pockets to buy out Weiss whose contract still has seven years.  Since a potential move to Notre Dame doesn’t seem likely to n’t seem likely, the Irish would turn their sites to names like  Cincinnati’s Brian Kelly and State’s Tom O’Brien.

While we are pondering a potential Irish list, let’s not forget how wonderful of a job that Butch Davis has done turning around a floundering program in Chapel Hill.  (smiles).  Davis’ NFL experience and proven ability to recruit nationally would be a super fit for the Irish. (Don’t you think?)

Lee Fowler would be wise to read this quote that we intentionally put on the site last week.  We would hope that Fowler could find time away from his Lake house or his favorite restaurant in Cary (does his wife EVER cook?) and spend some time with Tom O’Brien negotiating a definitive contract extension with a satisfying raise.  Doing so would remove O’Brien from anyone’s wish list, real or imagined, and would be a statement of continuity in an obviously upwardly mobile football program.  That would provide solid answers to any questions opposition coaches might raise on the recruiting trail, and you can bet that they will do exactly that given half the opportunity.

State’s history of losing great coaches is mixed.  After losing Lou Holtz and Bo Rein inthe 1970s, Dick Sheridan expressed his loyalty to NC State – and consistently stated his love for Athletics Director, Jim Valvano – by turning down opportunities at Georgia, South Carolina, Auburn, Arizona and LSU in the late 1980s.  If Jim Oblinger and Lee Fowler ever want the Wolfpack program to seriously contend for the Championships that Coach O’Brien again referenced in his post-game comments after Saturday’s win, then they need to take care of business and tangibly let our staff know our level of appreciation for what they are building.

NCS Football Tom O'Brien

58 Responses to Rivals: If ND Fires Weis, Irish Might Make a Run At TOB (Updated 7pm)

  1. cowdog 12/02/2008 at 2:37 PM #

    Alpha, Grobe indeed would be on a list due to the factors you mentioned. Age of TOB may possibly be the great separator between the 2. Holtz has been there previously of course and was my first pick in that conversation with my buddy last week. However I started to think about the circumstances that often dogged Lou there and don’t think the immaculate one’s would go with him. Same for Davis, as there just seems to be something ” fishy with him. ”

    I don’t think it’s time to pony up big monies yet, but State needs to have that plan ready when or if the bomb drops on CW. For all we know a boost may have been in the works following the course of the last month before any mention or thought of ND and if so, I would be surprised if it came or would come out of O’Brien’s camp. Very much unlike the “Gunslinger” down the road.

  2. gotncstate 12/02/2008 at 3:14 PM #

    Whoa men! Lighten up & relax. The TOB ain’t goin’ anywhere. SEMPER FI. Do any of you know the meaning of it? Always faithful. As stated above 2 small words that mean volumes to TOB 1)honor 2)commitment. And if I may add integrity. Mark my word, Tom O’Brien Stays!!

  3. packalum44 12/02/2008 at 4:54 PM #

    When Saban comments he is staying, I brush it off. When Butch says he is staying, I brush it off. When Patrino says he is staying, we all laugh. When guys like Grobe and TOB say they are staying, I listen. I am not naive and money talks, but you get the point. I do konw TOB was approached by Michigan last year. Don’t know any details but heard from the mouth of Oblinger that he was contacted. Dr. O was vague and I didn’t push the subject.

    I am not implying TOB was offered but he is a big time coach. ND would be crazy to not go after him. I don’t know why TN didn’t. I don’t think he will leave if offered but I do think regardless, him and his staff deserve a raise. I plan to voice my support for TOB to the AD and Wolfpack Club. Last time I check the Wolfpack Club is doing alright. We can pony up another million for TOB if we have too. However, I think more like 300,000 – 500,000 added to his base salary is more appropriate. He has an incentive based contract that could pay around $2 million if criteria are met. His base salary is around $1.2???? I am foggy on this but if I remember correctly from 2 years ago.

    Noah has a point, 6-6 is good for this team but how good is it? It is the most objective stat a coach’s performance is based on. TOB is not greedy. Last time I check, 7 digits goes a long way in the Triangle.

  4. ILMPACK 12/02/2008 at 6:54 PM #

    CHARLIE WEISS GOING NOWHERE—Sportscenter alert 6:58 pm Tues.

  5. MrPlywood 12/02/2008 at 7:07 PM #

    CHARLIE WEISS GOING NOWHERE—Sportscenter alert 6:58 pm Tues.

    —–

    Perhaps the most ironic headline in sports journalism history…

  6. highstick 12/02/2008 at 7:26 PM #

    Plaxico Burris has requested to show his gun collection to Lee Fowler! Can we hope for another accident! May be the only way we can get rid of Lee!

    Why would Notre Dame not go after a football coach named O’Brien? Heck, they could make him a coach and a priest!

  7. wufpup76 12/02/2008 at 9:11 PM #

    “Perhaps the most ironic headline in sports journalism history…”

    I did, in fact, laugh out loud 🙂

  8. Mike 12/02/2008 at 9:35 PM #

    For ND to be interested in TOB is the best compliment we could ask for. I truly beleive TOB when he says this is his last job. This only helps us in recruiting too.

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