AD Quote of the Day: ‘Performance-based profession’

Back in September we made a really big deal about Coach Tom O’Brien’s comments regarding his program’s position as a ‘Performance-based organization’. The entry and the good conversation that resulted can be viewed by clicking here.

“McKeen played very well. He’s got a lot of pass rushing ability. I think he performed better than Markus Kuhn did. We’re a performance-based organization here so he moved up.”

This resonated with us yesterday

Ron Prince is out as Kansas State football coach less than three seasons into an attempt to return the program to national prominence.

The school announced Wednesday that Prince won’t return for the 2009 season.

Prince was the offensive coordinator at Virginia when he took job in Manhattan prior to the 2006 season, but the expectation of putting Kansas State back among the elite Big 12 programs hasn’t panned out. Prince is 16-18 as coach and the Wildcats (4-5) were sent to their third straight loss last weekend, 52-21 to rival Kansas.

“We are in a performance-based profession and have made this decision in the best long-term interest of both the university and its football program,” Kansas State athletics director Bob Krause said.

“Our goal remains the same: to build a winning program that is positioned to consistently compete for championships. I appreciate the hard work and dedication that Coach Prince and his staff have put in over the last three seasons and wish him the very best for the future.”

I’m sure most of you see a lot of interesting things in these comments. But, whatever you do – please don’t interpret our appreciation for these comments as an overall appreciation for the manner in which Kansas State runs their Athletics Department.

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14 Responses to AD Quote of the Day: ‘Performance-based profession’

  1. Dr. BadgerPack 11/06/2008 at 1:32 AM #

    The Big 12 is behind the times… They should take the championship trophy and split it into 20 parts. Why? The bottom clearly need help… so, 9-12 get 2 shares and 1-8 one. Everyone is happy!

    If any readers do not get the toungue in cheek nature of my comment… well, poop on you. 🙂

  2. Alpha Wolf 11/06/2008 at 8:46 AM #

    No, no, no — instead of championships, don’t keep score, don’t have standings and give all a trophy for participation. That and have a rule that everyone who wants on the team is on it and everyone must play.

    And at the college level, don’t have any metric for success for coaches or success requirements to continue in the position.

    Finally, soak the customers and blame them when they ask questions.

    I wonder if our AD keeps score when he plays golf. If he does, does he give himself mulligans and preferred lies even in the hazards?

  3. Dr. BadgerPack 11/06/2008 at 8:53 AM #

    Don’t forget position rotating. Everyone should be able to play QB, etc.

  4. Elrod 11/06/2008 at 8:59 AM #

    The only thing I know that Jed measures is lost pounds.

  5. class of 74 11/06/2008 at 9:16 AM #

    Paraphrasing that line from “Animal House”. Mr. Fowler “fat, lazy and stupid is no way to go through life”. Jed’s administration of our athletics reminds me of Flounder.

  6. wufpup76 11/06/2008 at 9:30 AM #

    Todd Turner and Lee Fowler take the gravest offense to the above comments from K-State AD Bob Krause …

    Krause clearly does not know anything about running an athletics department based on these types of comments

  7. old13 11/06/2008 at 9:35 AM #

    TOB should be asked to resign (no firing, of course) immediately for not adhering to the standard of mediocrity at NCSU!

  8. 61Packer 11/06/2008 at 10:16 AM #

    Standard of mediocrity at NCSU? I didn’t know Fouler (sic) set the bar that high.

  9. Otis 11/06/2008 at 10:45 AM #

    By looking at the record, it seems that TO’B has learned to adhere to the standard of mediocrity quiet nicely.

    PS this was not intended to be a jab at our football coach, more like a attempt at humor.

  10. PacknSack 11/06/2008 at 11:24 AM #

    I have become comfortable with the phrase “championships are overrated” in the past two decades as a State fan. Coming close to championships is the true measure of a quality program.

    And facilities.

  11. howlie 11/06/2008 at 12:04 PM #

    But we’re No. 1 in AD Cougar Hunting and “coaches who are just grateful to pick up paychecks!”

  12. Greywolf 11/06/2008 at 12:42 PM #

    11 “humorous” shots at LF and not one comment on the content of the thread. I suppose the opportunity take a shot at LF was too good to miss.

    This firing is very similar to Willingham’s firing at ND. Black coach fired after almost 3 years coaching at a school with a very powerful white alumni base. You think Ron Prince didn’t fit in at the Big Spenders Clubs?

    This over-achieving athlete underachieved as a head coach. Maybe he was just another very good assistant who couldn’t cut it as a head coach. Could be but my money is on the race card.

  13. happypackdad 11/06/2008 at 1:05 PM #

    fire every coach who doesn’t produce a championship in 5 years. Produce or leave.

  14. Wufpacker 11/08/2008 at 6:09 AM #

    Hate to bring up HWSNBN, but after reading this a couple of things occurred to me. First, the highlighted quote regarding competing for championships. To my recollection K-State has hardly ever (never?) won a championship in anything. Maybe a conference champ in football, not sure. But their football program has certainly been only a recent success. Second, Prince is being let go after 3 seasons. HWSNBN had 10, and while he wasn’t exactly let go, we didn’t exactly try to retain him either.

    I realize that its apples and oranges to some extent, but I am surprised that I am not hearing the outpouring of opinions that K-State should be ashamed for letting Prince go after only 3 years. I mean sheeesh….HWSNBN won nothing in 10 years and now, 2 1/2 years later we’re still taking crap from folks (Jay Bilas and a USA Today article in just the past couple weeks).

    Why is it that every other school can make coaching changes but if we do it we are not only striving for more than we should expect, but are even portrayed at times as downright cruel. I mean dang…even CTC had the ESPN’ers whining about how he was treated during the FSU pregame a few weeks ago!!

    I don’t get it, but personally I believe that if our athletic department, the AD and sports information dept. specifically, were more proactive we could be much more effective publicly. I guess thats beating a dead horse at this point, but I’ve gotten completely sick and tired of being made to look like buffoons in the public eye just because we want to win, specifically win championships and be second to none. I guess winning cures all so hopefully if TOB and Sid get things turned around the critics will shut the hell up.

    And Greywolf, I think commenting on the AD and his handling of these sorts of things is very on topic and appropriate given the current climate at NCSU. Nowhere have I seen Fowler hold anyone accountable for their responsibilities for putting a winning product on the field. If not for the fans uproar both CTC and HWSNBN would still be coaching their mediocre butts off here at NCSU. I mean hell, even Kerrigan had to resign…Fowler sure wasn’t going to fire her.

    OK, thats the end of my rant and I will step off my soapbox now 🙂

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