God Almighty lashes out at State, again.

God hates State

“They are now the objects of that very same anger and wrath of God, that is expressed in the torments of hell. And the reason why they do not go down to hell at each moment, is not because God, in whose power they are, is not then very angry with them; as he is with many miserable creatures now tormented in hell, who there feel and bear the fierceness of his wrath. Yea, God is a great deal more angry with great numbers that are now on earth: yea, doubtless, with many that are now in this congregation, who it may be are at ease, than he is with many of those who are now in the flames of hell.”

– Jonathan Edwards, “Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God”

N.C. State coach Tom O’Brien announced that Junior tailback Jamelle Eugene, last year’s team most valuable player, will miss the South Carolina game because of an ankle injury.

“…O’Brien also listed two players who have left the program and will look to transfer elsewhere: sophomore linebacker Thomas Barnes, who played in 10 games last year as a true freshman, and freshman defensive tackle Kyle Linney, who enrolled in January after signing with the Wolfpack in the spring of 2007.

Offensive lineman Sam Jones, who signed to play with the Wolfpack in February, still has some work to do to meet NCAA qualifications and will enroll at State in January, O’Brien said.

Finally, in what O’Brien said was “his decision,” senior offensive guard Curtis Crouch, who was listed as the backup right guard, will not make the trip to South Carolina. Redshirt freshman Henry Lawson will play behind starter Meares Green at right guard.”

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64 Responses to God Almighty lashes out at State, again.

  1. highstick 08/26/2008 at 6:33 PM #

    Aw, Jeez!! It don’t get any worse! It’s gonna be wet in Columbia so we really needed the running game!

    Just hope this isn’t a lingering thing and he’s back for conference play.

  2. redfred2 08/26/2008 at 6:51 PM #

    That stinks about Eugene! Let’s just hope that FOR ONCE this an injury that will heal in the realm of a “reasonable” timespan.

    About the others, was it just that they didn’t like the system, or house cleaning by the staff, or what???

  3. michelletack 08/26/2008 at 6:52 PM #

    That’s it–we are the collegiate equivalent of the Chicago cubs.

  4. BJD95 08/26/2008 at 7:00 PM #

    We are so very fucked. USC is going to blitz the living shit out of us. I will be happy if we score.

  5. Noah 08/26/2008 at 7:19 PM #

    If we get within three touchdowns, it will be a victory.

    Overall, we’re better off without those who have left the program.

    It’s going to be a long year, but it will get better.

  6. sf59 08/26/2008 at 7:22 PM #

    don’t forget… Javon Walker out for the year…

  7. Daily Update 08/26/2008 at 7:33 PM #

    Thursday is going to be ugly. At Clemson is going to be even uglier. Realistically we may not have a winning season until 2010 and that is IF recruiting gets better.

  8. DAMangum 08/26/2008 at 7:38 PM #

    Can all of you negative people stop posting on here? I’m tired of hearing it all the time! Have some optimism about our program and team! There is a guy, I’m not sure if most of you all have heard of him or not, named Andre Brown. He was named to the Doak Walker list last season and is still projected as one of the best running backs coming out of college this season. Maybe he can suffice at running back for a game or two until Eugene is healthy.

  9. redfred2 08/26/2008 at 7:39 PM #

    “If we get within three touchdowns, it will be a victory.”

    That’s more like it! I feel better about the game already. 😉

  10. benmillerm 08/26/2008 at 7:41 PM #

    Our problem as a collective whole is that we expect the worse to happen and then think negative thoughts when they do. Please start positive talk about how Baker and Brown will show up and live up to the reputations they had coming in. Lets rave about how TO is gaining the respect of the players and how them buying into his system will reap benefits for years to come. Let us rejoice in the fact that our young Dbs will get the chance to get valuable game experience. Remember that upsets happen every week. Know that we will play a hell of a game and that we believe we can win. The Wolf Pack fans are kind and loving people and we are worthy of football greatness. It will happen but you have to believe and verbalize it first.You may say I am a dreamer but I’m not the only one and besides how has the other way been working for us in the past.

  11. Primewolf 08/26/2008 at 7:47 PM #

    I don’t think the loss of Eugene or Crouch for this game will be the difference maker.

    I expect a decent game. Our D will do a good job. We will spread it some and make enough plays.

  12. primacyone 08/26/2008 at 7:56 PM #


  13. Daily Update 08/26/2008 at 8:00 PM #

    Benmiller: On TOB’s radio show, he mentioned Baker may not be back until next year.

    Also, Javon Walker is also done for the year.

  14. UpstateSCWolfpack 08/26/2008 at 8:04 PM #

    We will win on Thursday. Gamecocks ain’t going to start this year the way they started last. We will be 2 and 0 going into Clemson and will give them more then they expect out of us. Wilson is going to step on the field Thursday and will become the leader his father has raised him to be. LET’S GO PACK!!!

  15. Wolf Dog 08/26/2008 at 8:05 PM #

    Andre Brown has his shot. T think he the best back we got any way and certainly the most physical. He can carry the load!

  16. VaWolf82 08/26/2008 at 8:06 PM #

    Can all of you negative people stop posting on here?

    Sorry. This is the adult site where we talk openly and honestly about what we see and think. If you want sunshine blown up your skirt, you will need to look elsewhere. We are always happy to talk about positives…but we don’t make them up just to put a good face on things.

  17. redfred2 08/26/2008 at 8:15 PM #

    I posted this a little earlier on the “Don’t forget the Defense” thread…

    I’m just as hopeful as I ALWAYS am, but I’m not about to dare to guess the number of W’s and L’s for this season. TOB is still in the middle of restructuring, and without players of his own choosing for the most part, so this is yet another season where I would be happy just to see his (successful) philosophy really start taking hold for the future.

  18. DAMangum 08/26/2008 at 8:16 PM #

    Thanks VaWolf82, you reminded me why I get into arguments with State fans at every sporting event I attend. Sixty percent of State fans don’t know anything about sports, they just go to games to get drunk, bad mouth the players and coaches, and then leave at halftime! I don’t want sunshine blown up my boxers, I guess you’re referring to yourself with the skirt comment. I just want people to express their feelings on here without completely bashing the team before the season starts. One game hasn’t been played yet and half of you think we are going to loose to Duke. Tom O’Brien is one of the best coaches in college and he can out gameplan Spurrier any day of the week! I have complete faith in the team and coaches until the last snap against Miami, or hopefully who we play in a bowl.

  19. wolfpackdawg 08/26/2008 at 8:19 PM #

    I am trying to be positive but this puts a dagger in the heart imo. I just hope uSuC plays really bad.

  20. aPACKadeez 08/26/2008 at 8:34 PM #

    I’m ok with Eugene being out, because I think Andre Brown and Curtis Underwood will do fine against SC. I am wondering why Crouch isn’t playing…and why Barnes and Linney want to transfer. That’s odd to me…is something going on with the coaching staff and the players?

  21. choppack1 08/26/2008 at 8:35 PM #

    I wonder what happened w/ Barnes. Wasn’t he one of TOB’s recruits?

    Bummer about Curtis.

  22. Wulfpack 08/26/2008 at 8:43 PM #

    “One game hasn’t been played yet and half of you think we are going to loose to Duke.”

    I haven’t seen that posted once. A little over the top there, my friend.

  23. DAMangum 08/26/2008 at 8:49 PM #

    Barnes was really fat and out of shape to be such a short linebacker. Also, I don’t think he was going to get the playing time that he was hoping for. I think Linney had some character concerns, not sure about Crouch. It probably has something to do with him not starting after being a starter for 2 years.

  24. b 08/26/2008 at 8:56 PM #

    No thought policing, if you would please. This was a tall order with Eugene, whose presence will be felt most in the return game. In what I expect to be a close game into the fourth, that could be an Achilles’ heel.

    And for one who knows so much about sports, you certainly didn’t fail to realize we are without our 2 most productive players from LY, Bowens being the other. Or that we are starting 12 new players, most notably an extremely talented RS freshman signal caller. Or that we are on the road in a difficult environment, against a stout defense and a solid coaching staff. Or that we will have five Frosh on the two deep. TOB will make some lemonade out of this, but it will likely be a little tart for few games.

    A lot of the posters here, most notably Noah, choose to expect the worst because they have been State fans a LONG time. We’ve learned when we expect good things they are most cruelly snatched from our grasp. And we find solace in the shared experience, frequently choosing satirical wit over dismissive optimism. I choose to think of it as a defense mechanism, a case of not wanting to tempt fate, by being cautious in our expectations. The same fate that smacks us in the face without provocation anyway, as this most recent development would indicate.

    No one forgot we have Brown, but perhaps you forgot he’s been injured and isn’t in prime game shape. In any event, Underwood proved a capable understudy LY, even after admitting he wasn’t as focused as he should be, so I’m not concerned as much about the running game. Graham will have to step up though, and I hope we don’t have a muff or an inside the ten fielding error on account of Eugene’s absence.

    And the arguing with strangers in public thing seems more like a personality defect than expert analysis. There are others that played ball in college (some on this site), and perhaps they too paid attention while playing.

  25. BJD95 08/26/2008 at 9:22 PM #


    1) Brown is not in any kind of shape to tote the rock 25+ times against the Chickens.

    2) Eugene’s quickness and ability to create offense in space was the KEY to slowing down USC’s defense.

    3) Underwood will play significant minutes, and we will be lucky to see anything better than utter pants-shitting. I don’t even want to think about what Plan C is at RB.

    4) The SEC is easily the best conference in the nation. South Carolina is a middle of the pack team in said league. The ACC is, at best, the 5th best conference. NC State is a consensus bottom feeder for this year, with serious depth issues BEFORE the rash of injuries.

    5) South Carolina is at home, in front of 80,000 crazed redneck faithful.

    6) NC State has no game breaker (or even above-average players) at WR. More blitzing from the defense.

    7) Preseason reports indicate that the OL will be a continuing problem area.

    8. Guess which SEC team has the most starters on The Sporting News’ preseason all-conference team? Not Florida. Not Georgia. Not LSU. South Carolina (4).


    1) Tom O’Brien is our coach, and is too old to leave before turning things around at NC State.

    2) Daniel Evans is no longer the starting QB.

    There you go. Fair and balanced. Doesn’t take a genius (or even a Spurrier) to do the math here.

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