Another Valvano Player Hired as NBA Coach

Vinny D

Add former Wolfpacker Vinny Del Negro to the list of Jim Valvano’s former players who have made a big splash in basketball years after their playing careers ended.

Multiple media reports indicate that Del Negro is set to become the Head Coach of the NBA’s Chicago Bulls.

The deal isn’t complete, but sources said Del Negro will sign a two-year contract with a team option for a third season and be paid roughly $2 million annually. That will make him one of the league’s lowest-paid coaches.

Del Negro is considering hiring former Spurs, Sonics, Knicks and Pacers coach Bob Hill as his lead assistant, sources said.

That Del Negro, most recently the Suns’ assistant general manager, edged out former Minnesota coach Dwane Casey despite having no coaching experience was viewed with surprise around the league. The Bulls offered no official word on the impending hire.

This will link you to ESPN’s most recent article.

Del Negro joins current NC State Head Coach, Sidney Lowe and one of the NBA’s best current coaches, Nate McMillan as former players from Coach Valvano’s NC State program to have become Head Coaches of NBA franchises. Add Dereck Whittenburg, Andy Kennedy and Terry Gannon’s prominence as a successful college coaches and as an ABC television announcer and one builds a very strong case to stick in the eye of the army of naysayers who criticized the ‘character’ of Valvano’s players and teams in the 1980s.

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48 Responses to Another Valvano Player Hired as NBA Coach

  1. redfred2 06/10/2008 at 5:00 PM #

    Chop, I pretty much agree with your reply, but it does take an entire university, acting as an extended family, to maintain a major sports program AFTER someone else has already built it up to a certain level. Who else from NCSU received even one iota of the criticism or adversity that Jim Valvano faced back then?

    Answer: NOBODY

    “Whoa Jim, we need to talk a minute. About this Washburn kid, he isn’t the type of student/athlete we really want representing NCSU.”

    I have no doubt that the rest of the administration were in awe of Valvano, and possibly afraid to approach him with a statement like that back then. Hell, you could hardly get a word in edgewise anyway. But regardless, it was their job to SUPPORT him, and ALSO the kids in all of the athletic programs, and it was their job to look at who was being enrolled and deny if it wasn’t appropriate. That was the E A S Y part. They didn’t do it though, they let it go and did not say a word about any of it until they put on their little show by overreacting for the NCAA, well AFTER the fact, and in an effort to clear their own names. The Coach, or even the AD, is never in it alone. At least not if he or she is hired by a university with people who want to be successful themselves, and also want maintain that success for the future of the university.

    That definitely was the case many, many years ago at NCSU, but it wasn’t the case during Valvano’s days, and it hasn’t been the case since.

  2. redfred2 06/10/2008 at 5:30 PM #

    Again, the man was a BASKETBALL COACH, first and foremost, maybe he should have never been given the AD position at NCSU. Or just maybe someone should have had the b*lls to step up and say, “Hold on Jim, you’re new to this and you’re heading in a direction that we don’t really approve of”. Instead, they acted as if he had disobeyed and gone against their will, when the real problem was that no one up there was man enough to tell Jim Valvano, or anyone else for that matter, what their “will” was, until after they were publicly embarrassed.

    This administration, and every other one since the Valvano days, have been nothing but stuffed shirts, with ties tied so tight, that they have done their best to choke the life out everything that makes NC State, and college life in Raleigh, any fun at all.

  3. redfred2 06/10/2008 at 5:45 PM #

    Apologies for the rant(s).

    Like everyone else, except kyjelly for brains, I hope Vinnie D does well in Chicago. I’m just not going to make any predictions about it, I haven’t done too well in that department lately.

  4. ShootingGuard 06/10/2008 at 5:49 PM #

    “so, shootinguard, im glad to see you on here, what is the latest? are the coaches spending more time in the practice facilities and less time on the course? are the players getting in shape? any recruiting news?”

    Man, I am so far out of the loop—and away from the hoops—these days, it isn’t even funny. I know I can attest to myself getting out of shape by not playing and working on my game, but I can’t speak for the current players. Hopefully, BCostner and I have reverse karma going right now with him slimming down and polishing his game…

  5. redfred2 06/10/2008 at 7:16 PM #

    Since it’s not too busy on here tonight, and since I rarely stay on topic anyway…

    What if the World Series were going on, or the Super Bowl was coming up, wouldn’t we all be talking about it on here?

    Yet we do have a major professional championship series going on RIGHT NOW, with two of the all-time great franchises, and while I do watch, SOME, really, WHO CARES?

    If anyone is still harboring any delusions about what basketball has become, or what’s the only thing that truly motivates kids these days, look no further than “Da League”. Nobody pays much attention to it anymore, but it definitely pays well.

  6. redfred2 06/10/2008 at 7:38 PM #

    shooting guard, whenever someone brings up ” “‘s ability to groom for the next level, I don’t feel the need to go all the way back to Jimmy V. I always just bring up Todd Fuller, and that guy who coached him. Since that time, no other NC State basketball coach has had a kid with anything close to the kind of success that Todd Fuller had in the NBA.

    Sad, but factual.

  7. redfred2 06/10/2008 at 8:14 PM #

    Since I’ve tried way off-topic subjects and still not gotten any response, I’ll go back to provoking more out of choppack.

    “I love V, but IMHO, he did not live up to his potential at NC State.”

    Um chop, I wonder if anyone in Raleigh even knew how back then, or if anyone up there has a clue as to how to today, to allow A N Y coach to “live up to his potential (while) AT NC STATE”. It’s not that Jim Valvano did not ‘live up’ in Raleigh, rather the fact is that even a gifted person/personality/Coach like Jim Valvano COULD NOT. He couldn’t do it alone, or maintain it alone after he did, with no viable support system around him.

    You’re right though, Jim Valvano did not reach his full potential at NC State University. History does show though, that he did manage to have some really great accomplishments, inspite of NC State University.

  8. redfred2 06/10/2008 at 8:32 PM #

    Alrighty then, I guess I’ve basically typed myself to sleep now. Thanks for not interrupting. Good night now.

  9. choppack1 06/10/2008 at 9:09 PM #

    Redfred – I agree w/ you on the inaction of the administration and the admissions office and how some folks got a free pass. Of course, Poulton did lose his job too.

    As for being an AD, I think V was actually pretty decent. I would go as far to say as he was better than the ADs who came after him.

    I really wonder how V would have handled the RBC. I’ve really thought that we sold our soul a bit w/ the sharing arrangement w/ the Canes. Of course, w/ V being our coach, we might not have needed to split time w/ a pro hockey team to make the arena feasible and show that it can have some kind of atmosphere.

  10. PackerInRussia 06/10/2008 at 9:38 PM #

    “Yet we do have a major professional championship series going on RIGHT NOW, with two of the all-time great franchises, and while I do watch, SOME, really, WHO CARES?”

    To prove your point, after reading this it actually took a few moments to figure out what you were talking about. My first reaction was, “the NHL is already over” then, only after thinking harder, I realized you meant the NBA. Granted I am kind of far from the action, but I keep up with sports just as much as I used to (minus SportsCenter which I’m sure would not allow me to forget that the NBA championship is going on). I just get to focus on sports that I actually care about.

  11. redfred2 06/10/2008 at 9:46 PM #

    “after reading this it actually took a few moments to figure out what you were talking about,…”

    I think that’s the general consensus on pretty much all of my posts anyway.

  12. redfred2 06/10/2008 at 10:06 PM #

    chop, wouldn’t it have been nice to have filled the RBC to the brim with spoiled and screaming, diehard Wolfpack/ACC Bball fans, instead of always looking around at a bunch of empty red, but MOST IMPORTANTLY prepaid, LTR’s no shows.

    There are so many folks who live to pull for, and will pay to see, a winner. Any winner. We had our share of those fans even back before V arrived, but they’ve definitely dispursed and gone elsewhere since.

  13. Ed89 06/11/2008 at 7:19 AM #

    “so, shootinguard, im glad to see you on here, what is the latest? are the coaches spending more time in the practice facilities and less time on the course? are the players getting in shape? any recruiting news?”

    ^^I’ve seen Ben and he looks like he’s lost about 20 pounds. He’s definitely a lot more fit. It’s time for Ben and BC to prove that the staff was wrong for playing JJ so much (i.e. put up or shut up). In a way, I think JJ leaving may be a good thing (psychologically) for the team. I think the players have been working hard.

  14. Noah 06/11/2008 at 9:55 AM #

    Slight correction, Vinny Del Negro was the 2 guard. Quinten Jackson was the point. He took over late in the year for *sigh* Kenny Drummond – who left the team mid-season.

    Del Negro started at NC State as a point guard. He got into some late season games as the backup to Nate McMillan towards the end of the 1986 season. In 1987, after Drummond left, Del Negro took over at point. We struggled, but once Jackson was installed at the point, we really hit our stride. I think we won six straight until the Florida game in the NCAAs. Del Negro, of course, never went back to the point guard spot until he got to the NBA.

    From 1985 to 1987, we really threw pretty much everyone out there to see who could play point. It’s odd too, since the 1985 team had three guys who would play point guard in the NBA (our small forward, Nate McMillan, Spud Webb and VDN).

  15. choppack1 06/11/2008 at 11:29 AM #

    Noah – You’re right. What was the scholarship limit in those days – it seemed like several of those teams just had crazy depth.

  16. Noah 06/11/2008 at 12:19 PM #

    I think it was 15. And V still had trouble with it. I remember being at something like 17 or 18 for either the 1984-85 or 1985-86 season.

    There was a guy that ended up at UNC-Charlotte that was supposed to be part of our class and I think Gary Mattison was supposed to come, but didn’t qualify.

    I never quite figured out how:

    – Charles Shackleford failed to qualify, but only had to sit out a semester rather than a season;

    – Gary Mattison failed to qualify and had to go to JUCO; and,

    – Pano Fasoulas achieved eligibility exactly…how? He was about 30 years old and apparently played on the Greek National Squad and signed Tony Kukoc and didn’t appear to have ever been to a single classroom in his life (wasn’t he raised by gypsies and spent his life in a caravan reading palms and throwing knives?)

    And I never figured out why we were so determined to make room for Kenny Poston.

  17. El_Duderino 06/11/2008 at 12:19 PM #

    Also, don’t forget that the next year, VDN and Quinten Jackson gave up point guard duties to a guy named Chris Corchiani. Rodney Monroe came off the bench. Aaah, those were the days. I was 13…

    I don’t think the scholarship limits have changed. I could be wrong. I think the difference was in those days, if a guy went pro early it was the exception – not the rule. A lot of teams had a lot of good players.

  18. Noah 06/11/2008 at 1:07 PM #

    No, the rules definitely changed in the mid-80s. They went from 15 rides to 12.

    For instance, the 1983 team had:

    1) Bailey
    2) Lowe
    3) Whittenberg
    4) McQueen
    5) Lorenzo Charles

    6) Terry Gannon
    7) Harold Thompson
    8) Alvin Battle
    9) Eeeernie Meyers
    10) Walt Densmore
    11) George McLain
    12) Dinky Proctor
    13) Tommy Dinardo
    14) Quinton Leonard
    15) Mike Warren

    They changed in football a few years later. It went from something like 105 to 85.

  19. legacyman 06/11/2008 at 7:10 PM #

    It appears that Coach V has left a legacy of college/NBA head coaches and good for him and NC State.

    We have also had some pretty good radio announcers who attended NC State such as Gary Dornbery and Tony Haynes. Does anyone know when either of these two guys graduated from State? We have had some really good announcers who did not attend State so that is not a reqt.

  20. highstick 06/11/2008 at 9:01 PM #

    I could resist this, but “Way to Go”, our N C State cousin Vinnie!

    The first thing you can do is burn all of the Michael Jordan pictures in Chicago!!

  21. choppack1 06/11/2008 at 9:10 PM #

    Noah – Gary Mattison played at Broughton (at the same time Mickey Hinnant played at Cary). I think he went to Chowan and Hinnant went to Louisburg. They both committed to us after Juco. Matteson never played for us – I think he ended up at Shaw’s or St. Aug’s where he put up some good #s. Hinnant, of course, played for the pack.

  22. redfred2 06/11/2008 at 10:22 PM #

    Ha, Kenny Poston, I’ll bet he would love just seeing his name on a NCSU blog about now, regardless of what it was in reference to. I guess Jimmy V must have really liked him because he should have never been given a basketball scholarship to play at State, or in the ACC. He was a good kid though.

  23. Noah 06/12/2008 at 9:02 AM #

    choppack, I know what happened to Mattison…my question was why Shackleford only had to sit out a semester for not qualifying but Mattison had to go to JUCO after not qualifying. They were in the same high school class (I think).

    Regarding Poston, I used to think that V recruited a guy to be the last man on the bench. How else did Mike Warren and Poston and Terry Shackleford (anyone remember him?) and Tony Robinson get offers?

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