Swingggggg And A Miss!

– Might Casey strikes out.
– Tiger hits one into the rough.
– Michael Jordan heaves a brick.
– “Wide Right” defines one of the key rivalries of the 90’s.
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Frank Deford pens a pile of garbage.

Even though Deford is one of the most renowned print journalists of his era, he threw up a real clunker when he decided that college athletes need to be paid. Let’s look at Deford’s thesis:

It is perfectly unconscionable that big-time college football and basketball players go unpaid. They are employees, and deserve to be paid based on the National Labor Relations Act.

Ignoring his thesis for a moment, here are a few reasons why I call the Deford article garbage:

– He makes almost no legitimate effort to defend his thesis.
– He makes no attempt at providing an even and fair presentation of the issue.
– He makes no effort to show how a New Deal law protecting the rights of workers to form unions somehow applies to college athletes.
– He doesn’t discuss the logical consequences of paying college athletes.
– He doesn’t discuss the potential problems of only paying male athletes in basketball and football.
– He appears to confuse “alot of money” with an “infinite of money”.
– He assumes that every athletic department in the country is flush with cash.

Let’s assume for a moment that the National Labor Relations Board agrees with Deford’s legal assessment and requires college to begin paying college athletes, what would happen?

This is where Deford’s shaky grasp of basic economic principles shows through his weak analysis. This is the same thing that all of the supporters for Title IX failed to grasp….chiefly that “a lot of money” is not equivalent to “an infinite amount of money.” Just because TV pays millions of dollars for broadcast rights, just because ticket prices continue to climb, and just because boosters donate millions more dollars…this does not mean that athletic departments all over the country are desperately looking for new ways to spend their ill-gotten gains.

What did we see with Title IX? Did we ever see an argument that women’s softball was more important than men’s wrestling?…..of course not. Title IX supporters only pointed at perceived inequities and wanted more money spent on scholarships for women. But in the end what we saw was that money for non-revenue men’s sports was transferred to fund new sports for women. (I didn’t realize this until I worked with a guy whose swimming scholarship was canceled as soon as Title IX became effective.)

Now is women’s softball more or less important than men’s wrestling? It’s hard for me to imagine that very many people care either way. But in the end, this is the type of choice that was made in order to come into compliance with Title IX…and the type of choice that would have to be made if you want to start paying athletes some sort of salary or stipend.

If the experiences of the recent past are not convincing enough, let’s look at a few real numbers. A quick search led to an article from the student paper at Penn State discussing their athletic department finances and a summary of the Big 10. They showed that three athletic departments in the Big 10 reported losses and one more reported breaking even (and two more were only marginally in the black). If athletic departments in a BCS conference are not making money, then how do you think that schools from some of the smaller conferences are doing?

– NOTE: All of the colleges file reports that include athletic expenses/revenues with the Federal Government and are available at Equity in Athletics. It doesn’t appear that the financial numbers are consistently reported from one school to the next…but most articles that you read on finances in college sports utilize the information from this site.

There is absolutely no way to start paying all (or even some) of the athletes a stipend or salary without negatively affecting the so-called non-revenue sports…and the athletes participating in those sports. How many non-revenue sports would be affected would vary by institution based on the total value of the proposed salaries (after all, Michigan is $17M in the black) .

Speaking of total salary cost, is there anyone that thinks that schools could get away with paying male basketball players and NOT paying female ones? How can you pay female basketball players and not pay the softball team? Deford assumes that you would only pay athletes from the revenue sports…but doesn’t bother to explain how the National Labor Relations Act distinguishes between football players and softball players. (Just like he avoids a lot of other details in his quest for truth, justice, and the American way.)

As soon as Dick Vitale gets his voice back, we will be subjected to hearing the same crap from him (after he gets tired of pimping for Coach K and Bobby Knight). Vitale’s pitch is normally made in conjunction with an attempt to tug at your heart strings with a reference to poor kids from the inner-cities. What Dick will fail to mention is that these poor kids are most likely already receiving money from Pell Grants. The bottom line is that things are not really so simple and clear cut as presented in many of these commentaries.

Look, I have no problem with paying all college athletes a stipend of some sort….just like I have no problems with the idea of a college football playoff. But to discuss either issue while willfully ignoring the financial aspects is simply folly. If you want to pay athletes, then at least be honest enough to list the non-revenue sports that you want to cancel.

Short of legal action, discussing whether or not to pay college athletes replaces Div 1 football playoffs on my personal list of the biggest wastes of time. I would much rather have someone explain to me why schools waste so much money on women’s basketball:

The ugly

Familiar with the low end of financial reports, the women’s basketball program loses money at an alarming rate. The Lady Lions were $1.76 million in the red last season, in which the team went 19-11 and played in the NCAA Tournament.

Upon being told for the first time of the women’s team’s losses, one source within the athletic department could only utter a monosyllabic response of surprise: “Wow!”

Women’s basketball has proven to be dead weight for the typical athletic department looking to stay afloat financially. Only seven programs in the country reported a profit last year.

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43 Responses to Swingggggg And A Miss!

  1. Texpack 01/08/2008 at 10:04 AM #

    ^”It’s really kind of an odd relationship – colleges get more benefit of the players, than the players get from the colleges.”

    Do you really believe that a kid who gets a degree via an athletic scholarship is getting the short end of the stick? Think about the difference in lifetime earnings for someone with a college degree vs someone with a high school degree. Think about what that means in relation to the children of scholarship athletes being able to attend college. It all gets back to what the individual athlete CHOOSES to do with the opportunity presented to them via an athletic scholarship. Athletes have all sorts of academic support provided to them thats not available to the student who is working (or borrowing) their way through school. Do Universities benefit from athletes, of course they do. The relationship is, however, far from one-sided.

  2. highonlowe 01/08/2008 at 10:25 AM #

    I’m not against a stipend that gives a little every week so that athlete’s can put gas in their car

    Scholarships INCLUDE a housing and cost-of-living stipend.
    The second-string gymnasts on full athletic scholarships that lived beside me when I was in school received: free tuition, free tutors, an unlimited meal plan, free off-campus housing estimated at $400/month (received in the form of a stipend), and a cost-of-living stipend.

  3. Dr. BadgerPack 01/08/2008 at 10:32 AM #

    Chop- Even sharing jersey revenue with athletes for sales of their # could be iffy. With captain Nike “running” Oregon he could pull something shady off. Also, what’s to stop huge boosters from scooping up or mass ordering large quantities of jerseys (hmm… he could even mention this to someone who mentions it to a prospective athlete).

    As far as having jobs, the last two schools I have been affiliated with would not allow an athlete to hold a job IN SEASON for their sport (I don’t know if this was a school, conference or NCAA rule). There were no restrictions on jobs held out of season for an athletes respective sport, other than you have to be paid proportionate to the work (of course). Pure speculation here, but I wonder if this has to do with their being fewer and fewer multisport athletes. I suppose it is at least a contributing factor.

  4. Dr. BadgerPack 01/08/2008 at 11:10 AM #

    Also, as I noted in another thread (a sort of misplaced comment, my bad SFN) the free tutoring comes at a rate substantially less than a non-athlete pays for the same private tutoring. I’ve tutored athletes from sports ranging from Mens Basketball, Tennis, Football to Women’s crew (rowing) and Hockey. Every athlete gets access to the same level of tutoring (at least in my experience) and gets the advantage over the typical student of not having to pay for it.

    Student athletes also can receive “extra” benefits legally per NCAA rules. Faculty and staff may provide occassional paid meals out for atheltes and may ptovide home-cooked meals as well. There are plenty of other loopholes/allowed benefits laying around but I can’t recall all of them at the moment- it has been a couple of years since I read the NCAA compliance manual and sat through the required class.

  5. Trip 01/08/2008 at 12:42 PM #

    I didn’t know that a cost of living check was included, in that case, screw it, they’re already getting a stipend.

    “In most cases, if the parent(s) are that poor then the kids would qualify for PELL grants. So the sob story about poor kids who can’t afford a new pair of jeans is BS in most cases.”

    Pell grants are not awarded if you receive a full scholarship to the school, I believe. Grants/Loans from FAFSA are awarded on need, and unless you don’t report that you’re getting a full scholarship you do not get the Pell grant unless you happen to have children already and a low income.

  6. Noah 01/08/2008 at 1:15 PM #

    Again…if the athletes feel exploited, I would strongly encourage them to reject the scholarship offer.

    No one said you HAD to go to college as an athlete.

  7. Sam92 01/08/2008 at 1:57 PM #

    the “choice” or “don’t play” reasoning sounds very neat and clean — you freely choose it so don’t feel exploited.

    but looking a little closer, football players do not have another viable option for football, so the “choice” is really offered by the holder of a monopoly, which is to say, do it my way, on my terms, which return to you a tiny percentage of the revenue you generate, or don’t do it at all. that’s not the kind of choice that we typically think of in a market system, thus the conclusion that the college football monopoly is to some extent exploiting the players

    i think the system is good enough all in to withstand that criticism, but it is a concern.

  8. Noah 01/08/2008 at 2:08 PM #

    Well, that’s completely untrue.

    Eric Swann never went to college and certainly did play in the NFL. He played semi-pro ball for three years before entering the draft. You can also play in Canada.

    Renaldo Nehemiah never played college ball and still played in the NFL. There have been plenty of others who’ve done the same.

    This has NOTHING to do with a “market system.” NOTHING.

    The NAIA has nothing to do with the NCAA. There’s nothing that prevents them from paying players except for their own bylaws.

  9. Dr. BadgerPack 01/08/2008 at 2:16 PM #

    Random thought for the afternoon: I wonder how the revenue athletes would handle “pay for play”, since it is a “job” if they were forced to take courseloads commensurate with the average student working their way through college.

  10. ruffles31 01/08/2008 at 3:41 PM #

    This isn’t related to the paying of athletes (although I did get into a “discussion” about this in my public speaking class when I was at State. A football player’s persuasive speech was on paying student-athletes and the teacher wanted questions from the audience from the alternate perspective. He didn’t seem to like some of my reasoning against this…most of which have been discussed above).

    However, with the crazy year in college football, I didn’t know if SFN would want to have a thread based on this topic off of SI.com. The main reasons we will have the BCS for a long time:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/the_bonus/01/02/bcs.future/index.html

    Thanks, I am collecting articles that discuss the BCS.
    VaWolf82

  11. bTHEredterror 01/08/2008 at 4:41 PM #

    Antonio Gates never played College Football, and he’s the best TE in football IMO. It takes a special athlete, but the NFL is a corporation, and while a college degree (or college playing experience) will certainly be an advantage it’s not required. They hold a combine every year that you or I could send a tape to to gain admittance, and they take small college and semi-pro players in every year.

    In my corporation there are technical personnel who didn’t go to college. But they have rare programming skills or understanding, so they have a spot. College is the best place to look for talent in any arena, but there are people who don’t need the college experience in their chosen field to succeed.

    The corporation I work for is top 20 Forbes list by the way.

  12. Noah 01/08/2008 at 5:06 PM #

    So…if we got the +1 model, we’d just do away with one of the bowls being a national title game, right? The Sugar Bowl would just be the Sugar, the Rose would jsut be the Rose, etc….and THEN we’d play our national title game after all the bowls?

    Kinda like…how we do it right now?

    Yyyeah, that’s uhh…so much better.

    Tell me again why all the people who clamor for a playoff system can’t just go watch the g-d NFL? Why does college ball have to be like the NFL? Why don’t we play a best-of-seven series in football like we do in every other sport? Why do we just play one? Why can’t every sport be EXACTLY the others?

    Morons…

  13. branjawn 01/08/2008 at 6:09 PM #

    “but looking a little closer, football players do not have another viable option for football, so the “choice” is really offered by the holder of a monopoly,”

    1. There are plenty of other options
    2. NCAA Football is not a monopoly

    In high school I was an average student, average athlete, and a white boy! (Well, I’m still a white boy) I used LOANS to attend 5 years of college (changed majors) which I am still paying back 7 years after graduating. And you know what? I am fine with that! Free education is not a right, education is an opportunity that one should be willing to pay for.

    I take great offense to the idea that a 6’4″ 250lb moron who can play football should be PAID (on top of his full ride) to attend college just because of genetics.

  14. choppack1 01/08/2008 at 8:55 PM #

    Noah – in the last 25 years of NFL football you cite 2 players? That doesn’t exactly make a strong argument for skipping college and going straight to the league. Look, I don’t think that paying players is the way to go. However, this is VERY odd institution. In places like Knoxville, Columbus, where ever Arkansas plays(Fayetteville?), Auburn, Athens, Gainesville, Ann Arbor, South Bend, Lincoln, College Station and Blacksburg those football games generate millions of revenue- having more of an impact on these communities not limited to the gridiron. They serve as the food to feed the rest of the cow that is a big time college athletic program.

    It doesn’t matter that colleges don’t store the $$ under a mattress, instead spreading the wealth. The fact is that these great athletes and teams generate an absurd amount of cash.

    I don’t think it’s unreasonable to discuss some type of reward other than a scholarship that can be revoked at any time.

  15. VaWolf82 01/08/2008 at 9:41 PM #

    Pell grants are not awarded if you receive a full scholarship to the school, I believe. Grants/Loans from FAFSA are awarded on need, and unless you don’t report that you’re getting a full scholarship you do not get the Pell grant unless you happen to have children already and a low income.

    I don’t have a linkable source…but it comes from someone who used to cover sports for a small-time newspaper in the Florida panhandle.

    Here’s another one ….The Roanoke paper reported that VT players were taking an off-campus housing allowance and were living in government subsidized housing….which they qualified for since they were adults with virtually no income.

  16. BoKnowsNCS71 01/09/2008 at 8:34 AM #

    And what next. First round recruits holding out? Not showing up for camp? Angling to get a raise? NFL on a microcosm.

  17. Dr. BadgerPack 01/09/2008 at 9:12 AM #

    Still another consideration is what graduate student teaching unions will do if all of a sudden freshmen are walking onto campus and getting paid more (for a seasonal job) than TAs (who ALREADY hold college degrees) who teach multiple classes on a year-round basis. Since some of these whackjob unions will strike on a whim, I can imagine this situation creating some education problems (no TAs) at some schools.

    BoKnows- I’m waiting for the first recruit trade due to signability concerns.

  18. Noah 01/09/2008 at 9:29 AM #

    “Noah – in the last 25 years of NFL football you cite 2 players? That doesn’t exactly make a strong argument for skipping college and going straight to the league.”

    How many would you like?

    “Look, I don’t think that paying players is the way to go. However, this is VERY odd institution. In places like Knoxville, Columbus, where ever Arkansas plays(Fayetteville?), Auburn, Athens, Gainesville, Ann Arbor, South Bend, Lincoln, College Station and Blacksburg those football games generate millions of revenue- having more of an impact on these communities not limited to the gridiron. They serve as the food to feed the rest of the cow that is a big time college athletic program.”

    This is a canard…but not a deliberate one.

    College football is pretty unprofitable. It eats up about half of your athletic budget and most teams are unprofitable. However, it’s easier to raise money if you have a college football team. So…college football pays the bills, but not in the way you’re talking about.

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