Rock Bottom. ECU Gets First Victory Against an ACC Team; Lowe’s Honeymoon Over

Where to start. Poor preparation. No defense. No rebounding. Poor coaching in a game that should have never been played.

After compiling a 17-0 historical record over the Pirates, NC State loses the program’s first game in history against East Carolina. Prior to tonight, ECU was 0-57 against ACC opponents. Most ACC opponents weren’t dumb enough to discount their program and put themselves in an un-necessarily risky position to play on the road. Of course, most ACC programs haven’t historical been steered by a man more interested in political gain and avoidance of conflict than what is best for his athletics program.

In games that mean everything to one team and nothing to another, a random guy can get hot (like Hinnant) and strange things can happen.

Now you know why smart Athletics Departments don’t schedule out of conference, in-state games on the road. Lee Fowler may think he knows basketball, but he doesn’t know dick about management or how to steer NC State.

Fowler BETTER have had his lazy ass at the game and not at his lake house or off on some golf excursion.

Coach Sidney Lowe’s honeymoon is over. This team is inexcusably bad.

As Mr. O said in a previous entry:

This team isn’t going to do anything this year until Brandon Costner and Ben McCauley show up. I have no clue what happened to those two guys in the off-season, but they are horrible. Costner in particular because he is certainly getting his opportunities. Airballing free throw? Hardly drawing iron on layups and wide open three point shots? Maybe last year was just a fluke. At this point, he is the next Marcus Melvin in Europe….wow he just turned it over again.

Why the hell do other teams get tons of offensive rebounds against us but we hardly ever get one? Rebounding is positioning and hustle. We are severely lacking in both.

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131 Responses to Rock Bottom. ECU Gets First Victory Against an ACC Team; Lowe’s Honeymoon Over

  1. Packster 12/09/2007 at 1:17 AM #

    Exactly…..we are just gonna get thrashed by the Holes.

  2. vtpackfan 12/09/2007 at 1:19 AM #

    Eat Crow,

    I’m enrolled in three cedit hours at EZU, and spend my mornings unclogging the shower drains in the Pirate Womens Locker rooms. Any chance that fat check that Holland promised to me will come before X-Mas?

  3. MatSci94 12/09/2007 at 1:20 AM #

    I’m not trying to excuse anything, but this team is last year’s team without Atsur. We were terrible last year when Atsur was hurt.

    This team needs a leader, and we don’t seem to have one.

  4. BJD95 12/09/2007 at 1:20 AM #

    No heart, no brains, no pride, no balls. Pathetic in every way. Grant and Costner combine to miss 4 straight FTs in a row down the stretch – including an airball!

    Our athletics program in general is starting to look more and more like a complete joke. There’s just no excuse for it.

  5. tvopack 12/09/2007 at 1:21 AM #

    This team might perform better in the NCAAT but how the hell are we going to get into the tournament if we can’t win games now.

  6. Packster 12/09/2007 at 1:23 AM #

    ECU was 0-57 against ACC teams before tonight.

  7. BJD95 12/09/2007 at 1:25 AM #

    At this point, I’d advocate playing Simon Harris until he dropped. At least he’d put a body on somebody, I bet.

    ECU had one possession late where I swear to God they had 7 shots. It would be hard to do that playing 3 on 5.

  8. eatcrow 12/09/2007 at 1:25 AM #

    go catch an STD? haven’t heard that one before?! Thats a good one! No, really, have never heard that one. Seriously, thats great. I have never heard that before. Really, thats it? I have never heard that one before. Thats hilarious! STD?! Ha! Thats funny! I can’t believe I haven’t ever heard that one!


    Guess you never saw the survey where UNC, ECU, NC State, Duke, WFU, and UNC-W all had the same percentages on students with STD’s. Or the part of the survey where a lot of the number can be contributed to high school sexual activity…

    Good thing you can’t get anything from fucking cows over there off of Lake Wheeler Rd, or you guys would be in a hell of a mess!

  9. vtpackfan 12/09/2007 at 1:26 AM #

    “Actually, the humiliation is perfect. It drives home how bad things are right now and how bad they’ll remain unless the team and staff does something different.”

    ^ Choppack, the humiliation isn’t perfect until he has to dip into his own 401k to pay off the deficit Purcell has run up.

    “Oh no!! Looks like another pipe just burst in the Murphy Center!!”

  10. haze 12/09/2007 at 1:26 AM #

    Gavin, JJ and the 7 dwarves.

    Coming into the year, many of us were concerned about perimeter shooting, turnovers (i.e. PG) and defense. We were poo-poo’d by sunshine. Conversely, we were ALL comfortable with our front court. Well, the shooting, turnovers and defense have ALL been as bad as we feared (i.e. vomit the koolaid) and the front court, with the exception of JJ, has bombed horribly. Costner and Mac have simply dissolved into nothingness. They are, maybe, the 5th and 6th best players on the the team. MAYBE. Upside? Costner’s only pro options will be free dinner from the C-league champions at the local Y.

    As for Sid, he seems to be out there managing egos when he should be stomping the living crap of these kids. Oh, but wait, he’s just playing for March. Yeah, got it.

    I feel sorry for Gavin and JJ. They are trying.

  11. Wulfpack 12/09/2007 at 1:27 AM #

    I have to say I am utterly shocked. I missed the game as I had a Christmas party with friends and family, but I recall watching the ECU/G. Mason game last week and telling my friend “If we lose to ECU next week, it’s over.” Sadly, those words are coming back to bite me.

    It’s over. What in the hell has happened?

  12. Sweet jumper 12/09/2007 at 1:28 AM #

    In the 70’s, Thompson, Burleson and Towe padded their scoring averages against EZU in major blowouts year after year. Now we suffer the humiliation of being the first ACC team to ever lose to them. Unbelieveable!

  13. choppack1 12/09/2007 at 1:28 AM #

    BJD – You’re right. But getting a new AD isn’t going to fix our b’ball program. We didn’t lose tonight because we played in Greenville – we lost tonight because right now, we’re a horrid basketball team.

    Right now, I’m just too disgusted for words. Our team is quickly digging a hole that will be hard to get out of. It’s a very bad sign when after every game you have to say, “There’s still plenty of time to improve – and all is not lost.”

  14. eatcrow 12/09/2007 at 1:31 AM #

    you want to talk scandals? seriously? Do I need to pull out the reason why jimmy airball was asked to….actually, bought out of his contract???? You really want to go there?

    Go read the rules/by-laws/laws and tell me where terry went wrong…

    aside from it “looking” bad, it was perfectly legit. Good idea to do what he did? nope. Will he be bought out of his contract for it? nope.

  15. Sweet jumper 12/09/2007 at 1:34 AM #

    Tonight I felt like Grant and Hickson were trying their hardest and everyone else was watching. I am ready to see what Tracy Smith can do if given some steady minutes and a little freedom. I hope M. Johnson is a lot better than expected.

  16. Wulfpack 12/09/2007 at 1:35 AM #

    I just went back and read all the posts. I hear some talk about NIT this year. What are you guys smoking? NIT? This year? Let’s see, at this rate how many ACC games do we win this year? I’ll put the over/under at 4.

  17. Packster 12/09/2007 at 1:36 AM #

    More like 0

  18. xphoenix87 12/09/2007 at 1:36 AM #

    chopack – I’m not saying that last year’s effort was always consistent. However, we had basically no bench, and we played half the year without a point guard. This team has no excuse for going full out all the time, there are plenty of bodies on the bench who can give you a breather. For the circumstances, last year was a success. For a team that is deeper, a year older, and brought in a stud freshman, this year has been an unqualified disaster.

  19. tobaccordshow 12/09/2007 at 1:37 AM #

    “I’ll put the over/under at 4.”

    I’ll put the mortgage on the under.

  20. lush 12/09/2007 at 1:37 AM #

    WOW!! really defensive. only reason to be that upset is if its true. i guess there’s a bigger problem than i thought.

  21. vtpackfan 12/09/2007 at 1:38 AM #

    Hould read: SFN Thread hits Rock Bottom. ECU fans loot and raze arena; Lowe’s Honeymoon kicks off in Ronoake Rapids to take in Parton show.

  22. Packster 12/09/2007 at 1:39 AM #

    Well…my work shift is coming to an end. I guess I am gonna go home and try to forget about tonight’s disaster.

  23. choppack1 12/09/2007 at 1:42 AM #

    Here’s something to think about – maybe what we’re seeing is the direct result of coaching that DOES treat some games more important than others. I’m all for the red blazer bit, but every game is important. Our effort had been lacking in every game we’ve played w/ the exception of ‘Nova. Think of last year – and how often the problem wasn’t just the lack of the point guard, but poor D and effort. I can only think of a handful of games – at UNC, at GaTech, UNC in the tournament and at WV – that we lost where I really felt like our guys were doing everything they could to win.

    Watch Coach K’s teams play – w/ the exception of last year, they leave everything out on the court every night out…same w/ Roy’s squads. Right now, we seem to be playing like a very bad NBA team.

    I could handle this if it was just 1 game – but for the effort and execution to be substantially subpar for the 3rd straight game, well, there’s just no excuse for it.

  24. eatcrow 12/09/2007 at 1:43 AM #

    upset? nah. never messed with any ecu chicks…

    it is a bigger problem than you thought…you guys better look into it over there and dont let the N-O find out!

    seriously though, if you guys need another coach fired, just give ECU a call…we can take care of it for ya!

    night guys

  25. lush 12/09/2007 at 1:44 AM #

    and who the fuck from greenville is going to talk about fucking cows. we study animals. and we are clean enough to attract and have sex with humans(who aren’t diseased). get over yourself

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