Post-Game: FSU 27 NC State 10 (Video Highlights)

Well I was wrong…FSU wasn’t concerned enough with State to modify their offense at all. The bright points were few….but there were a few nice surprises.

Jamelle Eugene: 14 carries for 101 yards against the nation’s 10th best rushing defense (which is only good enough for third place in the conference).

– The State defense did a good job overall and held FSU to 124 yards rushing. That either says something nice about State’sdefense….or something horribly bad about FSU rushing ability.

Bad News:

Andre Brown’s injury.

– The officials made some absolutely horrible calls….but it wouldn’t have changed the outcome of the game.

– State had 129 yards of offense in the first quarter; but only 139 yards for the remainder of the game. Once FSU made some adjustments, State simply didn’t have anything left to try.

– And more turnovers…

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52 Responses to Post-Game: FSU 27 NC State 10 (Video Highlights)

  1. bTHEredterror 10/06/2007 at 10:33 PM #

    Not much to say, we do seem to be improving in some areas. The tackling though, was horrid in most instances. Some of the younger players are coming on. I thought I saw Heppe playing some left tackle, could be mistaken. The lineplay was substantially better on both sides of the ball, though it is diffcult not to improve on prior efforts. I feel we are going to be in some games, though the ball security is almost laughable at this point. I was actually encouraged we took almost 2 full quarters to commit our first TO.

  2. RBCRowdy 10/06/2007 at 10:35 PM #

    eh, losing respectfully is still losing. Still took personal foul penalties on QB’s running out of bounds, still made pass interference, still gave FSU free shots on Evans. TOB is good, but not a miracle worker. It is extra tough to be looking to ‘next year’ in October……..especially when we are in a dead heat with UNC to be #1 North Carolina ACC team.

  3. RabidWolf 10/06/2007 at 10:46 PM #

    The turning point in the game was the bogus “roughing” call on FSU’s punter. The most it should have been was runing into for 5. FSU’s 2nd offensive TD should have been called back for offensive PI. I never knew you could wrap your arms around the defender’s head! Another bad call—defensive PI on NCSU when the offensive player CLEARLY shoved the defender to the ground. I guess the officials played beer pong during the weather delay. The offensive line came out VERY flat after the delay, and Evans never had a chance.

    On the bright side, the defense looked very good vs the rush, and IMHO, if the ‘Pack can play like it did today during the first half for an entire game, we WILL at least beat EasyU and UNX.

  4. vtpackfan 10/06/2007 at 10:47 PM #

    The defense overall had it’s best game I thought. They were very focused on being the aggressor vs. Lee and acting upon him instead of reacting to his athleticicsm.
    This acted as a bit of a double edged sword though, since the blitzing and adding another player in the box took us out of the “bend but don’t break” philosophy Archer likes. Our CB’s were on an island and they were truly exposed. Last year we had Davis as a shut down CB, and this year? You knew that Amato helped guide their scheme by discussing with them certain attributes of his former players. They always went after Sutton on crosses and they picked on De. Morgan with the long ball until the clock expired. Our best corner today was Levin Neal playing X Box back in Raleigh while packing his bags, hopefully in route to Eastern kentucky.

    The first pick by Evans was terrible. It wasn’t him, it wasn’t Beck, it was just this whole twisted QB situation we have been shackled with for years. Stone was wide open after he split the LB’s. It was cover two and both safeties rolled over leaving the middle complety empty. Our QB’s are unquestionably the worst I ever seen.

    Question for Noah…on the play that Evans was ripped almost in half did Meares Green get a tickle in or did he get greedy and try a pinch? It happened so fast it was hard to tell.

  5. RabidWolf 10/06/2007 at 10:55 PM #

    BJD95 says:
    “Let’s not get carried away – we were still almost certainly going to lose. The refs didn’t cost us the game. ”

    They may not have actually cost us the game, but they certainly get the assist on the late TD for FSU. WHY, YOU ASK??


    The officials must have had lasik at Duke!

  6. Elrod 10/06/2007 at 11:23 PM #

    I have a question for the blog. We are down 7 and the game has developed into a field position struggle. We get a good defensive series and force FSU into a 4th and 22 situation. Why in the world would we have anyone remotely near the punter? It’s not a situation where you would go after the punt anyway. The only thing that can happen is a bad thing. I fully agree the PF call was bogus, but my immediate thought when it happened was “Why were we even there to give that kind of thing a chance?”

  7. beowolf 10/06/2007 at 11:32 PM #

    Well at least Amato knows what it feels to be on the opposite of a completely bogus roughing the passer call now.

  8. VaWolf82 10/06/2007 at 11:43 PM #

    More bad news

    ECU is killing UCF.

  9. noah 10/06/2007 at 11:56 PM #

    “Question for Noah…on the play that Evans was ripped almost in half did Meares Green get a tickle in or did he get greedy and try a pinch?”

    I think he farted near the guy and figured that would be enough.

  10. john of sparta 10/07/2007 at 7:12 AM #

    good news….as bjd95 says……first time we beat the spread.

  11. BJD95 10/07/2007 at 8:49 AM #

    Yes, the TD that made it 24-10 was complete horseshit. I say that it didn’t cost us the game b/c we weren’t going to score again. Maybe the Noles still tack on some more points, maybe it ends 17-10. We lose either way.

    Like VaWolf said, once they adjusted, there was nothing we could do on offense.

  12. Wulfpack 10/07/2007 at 8:57 AM #

    ECU has scored 37 and 52 points in their last two games. They are 3-3 on the season and beat a team that we lost to 52-38. We have scored a total of 20 points the past two games. I don’t know what gives anyone any indication that ECU shouldn’t be heavily favored.

    Not trying to be negative. Just stating it like I see it. I wish we were playing the kind of football ECU is playing.

  13. haze 10/07/2007 at 10:06 AM #

    ECU is better than NC State… but not by a whole lot.

    We have 2 weeks to get ready and, to me, that means 2 more weeks to heal (will Beck be back?) and 2 more weeks of work with the OL and the D. I think both units are improving (implies that the OL is approaching “bad” from a previous rating of “horrible”). Most of all, it’s 2 weeks for this staff to put together a plan to beat a beatable opponent. To me, this is our first winnable D1 game since UCF.

  14. vtpackfan 10/07/2007 at 10:09 AM #

    My delusinal thought before the season started was that our DB’s were locking in to their new assignments when Red/White game or fall scrimmage’s kept producing more and more interceptions. Our DB’s have one interception through six games I think, and our QB’s have hit everyone that was wide open except the mascot.

    Note: 22 players from the Sunshine state bless our school and football roster. Isn’t this the point in the season where they usually become disinterested?

  15. haze 10/07/2007 at 10:12 AM #

    Another bright point worth noting was Thomas Barnes. He got PT and made plays, especially on the pass rush.

    I appeared, generally, that our LB’s were doing a better job of stepping up into the holes against FSU. Seems a major point of emphasis in TOB’s comments on LB play (TV show).

    Deandre Morgan looks pretty good, physically outmatched by Carr, but he was always in position. Another young guy out there contributing.

  16. Par Shooter 10/07/2007 at 10:21 AM #

    I thought the effort was better today and I liked the fact that we seemed to have a tailored game plan for F$U as opposed to just running the same stuff we normally do. Good scheme and planning by Bible, but once they adjusted we were done.

    At the midway point of the season, I’m afraid that this rebuilding job is going to be a LOT more prolonged that we had hoped. The bottom line to me is that we will continue to be a team incapable of winning any conference game until we have good QB play. Evans and Beck will never be the answer. Hell, Daniel had a relatively good day and he was still the goat w/ the pick 6 that really ended our hopes. That was absolutely putrid and he cost the entire team a shot at winning b/c he panicked. We can only assume that Burke is no better than Evans or Beck since he isn’t sniffing the field. So that leaves Wilson or Glennon and my guess is that even if one of them is the answer it won’t be until TOB’s 3rd or 4th year that they will have the experience to allow us to begin competing. Couple horrid QB play with the horrid OL play and we’re in deep shit. The interesting questions will be whether TOB gets 5 years to pull us out of this mess and whether anybody will be around to give a damn if we have 4 years of 2-10 type seasons. I just thank the good Lord (and Swofford) that we don’t play Duke this year. As bad as it is losing to anyone, getting worked by Duke would be too much to bear.

  17. st8family 10/07/2007 at 10:35 AM #

    The only way we win is for a team to lay an egg or gift wrap a game for us.

    I thought about researching back to the last time when we had a game with a net 4 takeaways, but I don’t think I have that many years left in life to complete the task.

    What we need is a gift wrapped win.

  18. redfred2 10/07/2007 at 11:01 AM #

    I’m not making excuses, but how about the center snap when Evans is in the shotgun. The timing of the plays were thrown off from the onset when Evans had to take his focus off the field and practically go down to his knees to scoop the ball off the turf on every exchange. That’s no excuse for the overall QB play yesterday but it is something that definitely needs to be addressed. Evans isn’t comfortable back there to begin with, worrying about the snap on every play isn’t helping.

  19. mafpack 10/07/2007 at 11:12 AM #

    I did just want to point out that you don’t have an RB with a 100+ yard day on the ground, against one of the best run defenses in the nation, without some semblance of OL play.

    In fact, I remember looking up at my TV screen in confusion on our 2nd or 3rd play in the first series when the announcer declared “A HUGE hole and NC State has a first down!” A huge hole? Wha? Since when did our OL make huge holes in any defensive front? Granted that kind of play did not sustain itself into the 4th quarter, but the glimmer of comprehension was there.

    It seems to me that they’re learning each week at the very least. Hopefully the improvement continues and we see a much improved offensive front in the coming weeks and months.

  20. redfred2 10/07/2007 at 11:21 AM #


    You’re right, I thought the backs were late on some cuts and not taking advantage of some of those openings, especially early on. I guess they were in shock.

  21. Par Shooter 10/07/2007 at 11:26 AM #

    Lathan has always seemed to have a problem getting the snap above the qb’s knee for some reason. You would think that a sr who has as much experience as he does would eventually master the shotgun snap but apparently not.

    I really think that the period starting today is why TOB gets paid the big bucks. By reputation, he and his staff are supposed to excel in keeping teams on an even keel and continuing to work hard and improve day after day. Call it chopping wood if you like. If he is going to make something out of this mess in the next few years then I think it is critical that the team continue to work hard and improve during this season. Making that happen when there is no practical chance for another win this season has got to be a challenge for a coach, but this one is supposed to be up to such challenges. We have got a lot of practices left before the md game and the players need to get something from those practices. It may be hard for us to judge whether that is happening since we’ll likely be getting smoked on the field every week, but the work and slow progress needs to be there in practice.

  22. redfred2 10/07/2007 at 11:41 AM #

    One thing I hope TOB cuts out immeditely is all of that “AKA” horseshit in the announcing of one’s teammates. Just give the names and get the hell off the TV screen. Start kicking some ass and maybe you can be a bunch of bad asses, but I don’t really want to hear any self imposed nicknames or what anybody personally “thinks” they are right now, because they ain’t.

  23. redfred2 10/07/2007 at 11:48 AM #

    How bout my man redfred!!! aka “da Daddy”, “da breadwinner”, “da sexiest man on the planet”…

    It’s all true, but do you really want to hear it?

  24. noah 10/07/2007 at 12:07 PM #

    These kids today…


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