TOB: Pack’s Overconfidence

'07 Football General Quotes of Note Tom O'Brien42

On the teams overconfidence:

“The first thing they have to recognize is that they aren’t as good as they think they are. A lot of these guys have an over-inflated image of who and what they are.”

ACCNow has audio and a blog entry titled, “Pack’s overconfidence irks O’Brien”

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'07 Football General Quotes of Note Tom O'Brien

42 Responses to TOB: Pack’s Overconfidence

  1. Wulfpack 09/03/2007 at 4:18 PM #

    Kind of like the guy that brought them to Raleigh. Funny how that works.

  2. dbo2874 09/03/2007 at 4:19 PM #

    sounds like O’Brien is about to start breaking some guys down…..

    delicate balance between confidence and arrogance. Looks like TOB thinks our guys are a little across that line and I would tend to agree.

  3. BoKnowsNCS71 09/03/2007 at 5:11 PM #

    It’s what I would expect from a Marine and a drill sargeant. Break them down and build them up. Get rid of that I in Team and the egos and wing flappers and replace it with a unit that work together.

    Not only is he right on on his statement — he didn’t even have to say it. That first half said it for him.

    I could hear the fans saying “I painted my face for this?”

  4. noah 09/03/2007 at 5:24 PM #

    Very interesting…

  5. vtpackfan 09/03/2007 at 6:08 PM #

    Holy crap! Honestly thought he made this point to the guys after one of the scrimmages, the one he said “they made no progress” to the media. I was betting that some reality was being dropped then, but this is a real doozy.

    Not much to top that. Still no word yet who was wearing #58 on defense the other night, huh?

  6. GoldenChain 09/03/2007 at 7:45 PM #

    Looks like “indoctrination” will be starting this week! (a little Academy lingo there!lol) Break down their egos, make them buy into a central plan/authority/goal/vision, then make them function as one.

  7. beowolf 09/03/2007 at 8:05 PM #

    I don’t see how a team that lost to Akron, So. Miss, UNC and ECU last year could have ANY confidence, let alone be overconfident.

  8. choppack1 09/03/2007 at 8:14 PM #

    Beo – Nor do I, but I think over the last 3-4 years these guys may have had “swagger” drilled into them so much, it’s going to take a lot to get their attention.

    I will say this though – when you’re beaten 25-3 in one half – it’s not just the players fault. Of course, one thing TOB and his staff have over every one of the current players on this team…they’ve produced a winning a conference record.

    It will be interesting to see what happens on Saturday. I’ll be in Chestnut Hill and will probably have enough to drink before the game so I actually look forward to it.

  9. Mr O 09/03/2007 at 8:25 PM #

    Choppack: Where are you staying in Boston?

  10. ncsumatman 09/03/2007 at 8:43 PM #

    No doubt the team had/has/will probably continue to have an ego problem, I just assumed it would have been addressed before being pantsed by a CUSA team. I’m still shaking my head.

  11. Jamie 09/03/2007 at 9:05 PM #

    1st of all, fellas, the Corps has drill instructors, not drill seargents. Second, the enlisted folks go through a breaking down period called “1st phase”, where, for the first 3 weeks on the island (after all REAL Marines don’t come from hollywood) they are told what scum they are. Then, for the next 8 weeks, they are slowly built back up to trained killers as part of the best fighting force on the planet. All things being equal, don’t expect any love from TOB until week 4 or so.
    Anybody else just hear the remark on ESPN about Amato being the “disciplinarian” for FSU now? Wow.

  12. highstick 09/03/2007 at 9:16 PM #

    And you see how many penalties FSU has gotten in the first quarter too!

    Jamie, the first 3 weeks is called “acclamation to mosquitoes and sand gnats on PI”! If they don’t break you down, nothing will!

  13. Jamie 09/03/2007 at 9:31 PM #

    Highstick, you ever had a sand flea in your ear? Not scratching that booger is the definition of discipline. Maybe we should have spring practice on PI.

  14. EverettBeez 09/03/2007 at 10:14 PM #

    Maybe spring pratice on PI would drive all the show boaters off the team.
    I can understand wanting to instill confidence in your team, but all this carrying on – arm flapping to use Bo’s term – is just pitiful. Conduct yourself with some dignity. Nothing is more impressive to me then quiet confidence. you make a big play, and you get up and go back to work.
    If nothing else, act like you’ve got some home training. Its said when your own fans are asking if you’ve got a momma.

  15. highstick 09/03/2007 at 10:39 PM #

    I lived in Beaufort, SC for a little over 8 years. They tried to give me an EKG while sand gnats were biting me and you should have seen the tape! You would have thought I was in the midst of a massive coronary!

  16. caniac45 09/04/2007 at 1:02 AM #

    i heard the comment about Amato being the disciplinarian, gave me a chuckle. Also found it interesting that clemson ran all over their defense. on the disciplinarian note, how’d state do on penalties? i didnt get to watch alot of the game.

  17. bTHEredterror 09/04/2007 at 3:52 AM #

    /\Poorly, and at the worst possible moments as usual. The O-line, whom I so staunchly defended, was a culprit, and one bonehead 12 men on the field on defensive 3rd and 8 ast 5 minutes, when it absolutely cannot happen.

    Number 58 is the long snapper, his name is Will Smith.

    On a sidenote, I was happy they ditched the wave stripe and off-color shoulders. Hope the roadies are all white. They should be a humble team this weekend, lets hope that means hungry and focused. I for one, just hope it’s entertaining and we don’t get flat blasted on Nat’l TV.

  18. tractor57 09/04/2007 at 6:40 AM #

    Speaking of FSU and the coaching changes – I saw the same offensive problems as under the last offensive coaches – much like the situation with State’s team. Takes a long time to make significant changes to a major football program.
    AS to FSU’s disciplinarian maybe Amato can help with some of the off field antics (State had some but seemed to have fewer than most) – discipline on the field is a completely different story – as was shown Sat by Amato’s former gang in Raleigh. I am expecting a more humble team to journey to BC. I’m always reminded of the old Bear Bryant line about actions after scoring – Act like you’ve been there before. I know I’m way out of date but it really bothers me to see all the antics after a semi successful play when your team is down by 20 points.

  19. waxhaw 09/04/2007 at 7:14 AM #

    I think we had 7 or 8 penalties for about 40-50 yards. A couple of key ones though.

    Also, we dove (and flipped) into the end zone on our last touchdown. It wasn’t called a penalty, but I couldn’t help but think that Amato wouldn’t have been so lucky. Just goes to show you that ACC refs are so sorry that they were looking for that type of thing against us due to our reputation. Hopefully that has changed.

  20. RochesterRedWolf 09/04/2007 at 7:21 AM #

    man, i can’t believe after reading that entire transcript that somebody a few days ago had the nerve to say after the post-game press conference “where have we heard that before?” in regards to TOB saying that the penalties and game mismanagement were “bad coaching”. Even the way he said it was wayyyy different than the way Amato used to say that stuff, Amato used to say it like he thought he should, TOB says it because he actually means it. TOB and CTC are not the same people. They approach life and football from two diametrically opposed angles. Alot of things are starting to become much clearer though. Because you have to ask yourself, how does a team with the talent that State has had since ’01 look so awful and bumbling one week or two weeks and then look like a dynasty the next? How do you beat a Florida State with regularity and then regularly get beat by Chapel F*ing Hole? It’s all clear now. The Florida boys on this team got up for Florida State when they played them, understandable. We used to have a coach who got up for FSU, understandable. But what is not understandable is why they were not up for every single team they played against. Now it is, they thought they could walk on the field and turn it on. TOB is the man! I like how he doesn’t publically call-out players, but he lets you know there were some serious issues.

  21. Pack92 09/04/2007 at 8:17 AM #

    TOB smiled very little on his show Monday – one of the ones I remember was over Marcus Stone. I know that’s the guys personality but he was quite terse talking about the first half.
    BC will be interesting. A lot is going to depend on how much Beck can progress this week. There is no film on him to study other than the 2nd half from last Sat. so any new wrinkle would be unforeseen by BC. The O-line has to show early in this game.

  22. PackMan97 09/04/2007 at 8:30 AM #

    This gives me a great idea for a reality TV show 🙂

  23. Skeet Hooter 09/04/2007 at 8:43 AM #

    TOB’s comments about how penalties and other problems ought to be blamed on the coaching staff are like replays from 1986. Seemed that Coach Sheridan never blamed an individual for a penalty, rather, he said that the coaching staff needed to teach and coach better. Similarly, different game situations where decisions did not play out as planned were placed at the foot of the coaches. What have we heard throughout TOB’s (short) tenure? As coaches, we’ve got to find out the strengths and weaknesses of our guys and put our players in the position that best fit the strengths. TOB is not a replica of Sheridan, but certainly there are similarities. I am sorely disappointed in the loss on Saturday, but definitely encouraged that adjustments were made (by the coaches and by the attitudes of the players?) and the Pack played better in the second half.

  24. BoKnowsNCS71 09/04/2007 at 9:06 AM #

    Did anyone see the very end of the Clemson-FSU game last night. FSU had lost but they were awaiting the final review on the last play. ESPN cuts to the sideline to see Bobby looking on and right beside him was Chuck Amato with a “deer in the headlights” look on his face. Priceless.

  25. JimValvano 09/04/2007 at 9:25 AM #

    Before I make this statement…just realize it happens more in basketball than it does football due to the fact that if you lose one game in college football you lose most of your chance at a national title.

    Often times players develop bad habits. They do things their own way and despite a coaching staff’s best efforts the players continue to think that what they think they already know works better than what the coaches are teaching. I think there have been instances where coaches let the players do what they think is best for a half and then take ’em in at halftime and say…”alright boys, now are you ready to try it my way? cause your way ain’t workin”

    Maybe this is part of the case from the first half this weekend. Maybe the difference we see from last week to this week will be big.

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