Friday Football

Coach O’Brien returns to Chestnut Hill for a business trip that a lot of people are interested in witnessing.

Dave Glenn blogs about how fascinating this situation is. As usual, Glenn provides A LOT more information and detail about the things in which readers are interested than the ‘mainstream’, boring media.

Similar to Glenn, Eagle in ATL provides unique insight with a good preview that saves us the time of doing it. Check out the following:

There will be plenty of gushing on both sides about Matt Ryan, but what probably won’t be discussed is the role NC State and their current Tight End Marcus Stone played in Ryan’s path to the Heights. Ryan was not TOB and Dana Bible’s first QB target for the 2003 recruiting class. They wanted and went after Stone ahead of Ryan. It was only after Stone committed to NC State that BC turned its focus to Ryan. Stone flamed out as a QB and is now catching passes. Ryan might be the ACC player of the year. Shows you what a crapshoot recruiting can be.

One of the comments that Glenn makes that has been supported by past EagleinATL posts is related to a component of the TOB vs BC situation over the last few years that I just don’t understand:

There was a severe difference of opinion about the quality of O’Brien’s work at BC. Everyone agreed that it was good, on the field and in the classroom. But many fans ultimately complained about a predictable offense, second-tier bowls and an inability to win the “big game.” Meanwhile, supporters of O’Brien raved about the coach’s ability to churn out nine-win seasons despite high academic standards, mediocre facilities, a modest budget, a relatively small fan base, and the infamously weak recruiting turf of New England.

To me, this is where their fans fall off a cliff. The BC fans get mad at TOB for not taking them better bowls with such strong records. It makes no sense!!! The REASON BC was not going to better bowls with strong records was BECAUSE OF THE FANS…not because of TOB! This is a major part of the reason that he left. BECAUSE of fan support, a 9-3 record at BC gets you to Charlotte…with a risk (before the new rules) of Boise (see a couple of years ago). That identical record at NC State gets you can get you to the Gator or Peach Bowl…certainly no worse than 4th in the league’s pecking order.

The ‘frustration’ in this siutation is completely upside down. If those great BC fans would support their program to the standards of other programs, their team would have played in the types of bowls that their record would have supported. Tell me again why this is TOB’s fault?

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16 Responses to Friday Football

  1. Texpack 09/07/2007 at 12:33 PM #

    Can you send the LSU dude some gumbo to get him back doing the College Football TV schedule? I printed a copy for each TV every weekend last season and it made it possible to quickly find the Hawaii/BYU game or the Northwestern State/Sam Houston game when you thought you might have to go five minutes without a game on. I spent a lot of time flipping through channels last Saturday that could have been better spent in a football induced coma. This was truly a service to mankind that your site provided. Anything you can do to bring the schedule back will be met with great appreciation.

  2. Trout 09/07/2007 at 12:46 PM #

    DT Allan Michael Cash will not be playing for the Wolfpack this weekend, as he is attending the funeral of his father.

    Prayers to him and his family, and this is a huge loss against a physical BC team.

  3. kool k 09/07/2007 at 12:49 PM #

    Did DG really drop a Brad and Jennifer reference in that post?

  4. Trout 09/07/2007 at 12:59 PM #

    I’m guessing more BC fans will turn out for this game than turned out for last year’s BC vs Buffalo matchup. A whopping 14,682 showed up for that game.

  5. Clarksa 09/07/2007 at 1:16 PM #

    The BC Scout site says tickets are still available…and of course they are blaming that on returned NC State tickets.

  6. Trout 09/07/2007 at 1:30 PM #

    I’m sure we did return some tickets. If its not driveable, its a tough trip to make. But Central Florida returned 3000 tickets and NC State fans bought all but 200 of them.

  7. RickJ 09/07/2007 at 1:32 PM #

    The Stone – BC reference is amazing. Stone was first ticketed to Florida but then Spurrier left to coach the Redskins and we were able to get him early. Kevin McCabe, who signed with UVA was the highest rated QB in Pennsylvania in the 2003 class with Stone second and Matt Ryan third.

    Terrible news regarding Allan Michael Cash. I wonder if Marcus Kuhn’s redshirt comes off on Saturday.

  8. Mike 09/07/2007 at 1:43 PM #

    Not only is BC not driveable, costs in Boston are outrageous. Try finding a crappy hotel for under 2 bills, much less a place worth staying.

    This is one of the reasons why I am against ACC expansion. I know Boston was added for the TV market, but people there dont care about college anyway. I think the schools should all be driving distance.

  9. noah 09/07/2007 at 1:45 PM #

    “Everyone agreed that it was good, on the field and in the classroom. But many fans ultimately complained about a predictable offense, second-tier bowls and an inability to win the “big game.” Meanwhile, supporters of O’Brien raved about the coach’s ability to churn out nine-win seasons despite high academic standards, mediocre facilities, a modest budget, a relatively small fan base, and the infamously weak recruiting turf of New England.”

    —-

    Hey coach…why can’t you win the big game?

    “high academic standards, mediocre facilities, a modest budget, a relatively small fan base, and the infamously weak recruiting turf of New England.”

  10. noah 09/07/2007 at 1:54 PM #

    In 1995, July 4 fell on a Thursday. I was in summer school during my second junior year and had some friends in Boston invite me up for the weekend. My professors cancelled classes on Friday…so it was a four-day weekend.

    What the heck, it’s only four hours from New York and New York is an easy drive.

    It ended up taking me 16 hours (DC and Philly killed my time). That’s an eternity to spend driving by yourself. I think the return trip was something like 14 hours.

    And no, you absolutely cannot do Boston cheap. Definitely fly. And then I guess rent a car and stay in Worcester.

    Boston’s a great town and fall is a wonderful time to spend in New England. Check out Cambridge and Back Bay and Beacon Street and Newbury Street and the Old North Church and the commons and the Freedom Trail and all that good stuff. Take the train in Boston as much as possible. Traffic sucks, parking is impossible and expensive.

    Boston College, IIRC, is the last stop on the Green line.

  11. BoKnowsNCS71 09/07/2007 at 2:25 PM #

    When I thought it could not get worse…..

    DeMario Pressley, DT – Out indefinitely (knee injury, will have
    surgery)

  12. tobaccordshow 09/07/2007 at 2:40 PM #

    Matt Ryan will eat us alive…

    The combination of our corners blowing coverages and now… no pressure on a very good quarterback = disaster in Chestnut Hill 🙁

  13. packgrad93 09/07/2007 at 3:00 PM #

    “DeMario Pressley, DT – Out indefinitely (knee injury, will have
    surgery)”

    dang all the injuries. Must be practicing/conditioning too much.

  14. EverettBeez 09/07/2007 at 5:06 PM #

    First time I can find us playing BC is 1936, Coach Hunk Anderson’s team lost 3 to 7. We went 3-7 for the year. We played them again the next year under Coach Doc Newton (I believe this is the era when we were known as the “Gas Chamber for Coaches”) and won 12 to 7. We finished that year 5-3-1.

    As a side note, we lost to Dook and NC both years.

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  1. Eric - 12/26/2007

    HgTGMv Very informative post. Great.

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