NC State Reaches 8 Knee Surgeries

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O’Brien said two knee surgeries this week will bring the team’s total to eight for this season.

“I didn’t have eight knee surgeries in the last three years (coaching) at Boston College,” (SFN Note: Welcome to NC State!) O’Brien said Wednesday.

Fullback Pat Bedics was scheduled for surgery Wednesday, and his status for the rest of the season won’t be known until today. Offensive tackle Jeraill McCuller also had knee surgery this week, O’Brien said, and is out indefinitely.

Tight end Anthony Hill, tailback Toney Baker and defensive tackle DeMario Pressley are the most prominent players who’ve had knee surgery. Pressley is back in the lineup, but Hill and Baker are out for the season.

O’Brien also is concerned that N.C. State didn’t improve between its Sept. 15 victory against Wofford and its loss Saturday to Clemson.

“We may have taken a step back,” he said. “I thought we were making progress.”

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48 Responses to NC State Reaches 8 Knee Surgeries

  1. Primewolf 09/27/2007 at 9:29 PM #

    To assess the knee injury data, one would need to know each injury happened. Game, practice, etc.

    Statistical extremes do happen, but the real quesiton is it more than independent random events.

  2. noah 09/27/2007 at 10:06 PM #

    Willie Williams is proof to me that there’s no value in taking a chance on a high-risk recruit. They will NEVER be there for you at the critical times.

  3. Dr. BadgerPack 09/27/2007 at 11:13 PM #

    ^Wasn’t Willie Williams just about the highest risk recruit ever? I recall him being the one with the rap sheet that would make Pacman Jones blush.

  4. RochesterRedWolf 09/28/2007 at 12:20 AM #

    i hate to defend Amato, but he did bring in 5star guys. He also brought in the top player in NC a couple years in a row. Wasn’t A.J. Davis, Andre Brown, and Toney Baker all the top players in NC the years they graduated. And I think Mario Williams may have been himself.

    Is there any kind of data warehouse that contains year to year injury data?

  5. noah 09/28/2007 at 4:22 AM #

    Badger – Yes, Williams had been arrested 11 times before he went to Miami and his record showed up. They ended up letting him transfer and he went to Louisville before getting busted.

    We, sadly, offered him as well.

    Amato also went after Nate Harris…even while he was in jail.

    Ugh.

  6. haze 09/28/2007 at 8:18 AM #

    ^ As a curiousity, where does Noel Devine fall on the high-risk scale? I don’t recall legal stuff, just grades and the increasingly common HS Dad syndrome.

    Devine is scary good at WVU… perhaps already as good as Slaton, if not quite as much terrifying speed.

  7. Dr. BadgerPack 09/28/2007 at 8:21 AM #

    For the record- I know Amato brought in 5-star recruits… the “joke” there was regarding the “draft” slot. It was meant to be in the vein of the Herschel Walker line of commentary.

    Kind of like: often it seemed Amato “drafted” like the Panthers did for a long time– get guys high on the board, that don’t do squat.

  8. RAWFS 09/28/2007 at 8:34 AM #

    The hits just keep on coming for Dexter Reid:

    http://www.wvec.com/news/topstories/stories/wvec_local_092707_reid_arrested_gun.116076945.html

  9. Packaholic1 09/28/2007 at 9:18 AM #

    ” still don’t understand how Amato never brought in 5 star recruits, what with the solid draft position every year and all.”

    This is the kind of disinformation common on the internets…

    Amato recruits AJ Davis, Richard Washington, Dereck Morris, Demario Pressley, and Toney Baker were all scout.com 5 star recruits.

  10. noah 09/28/2007 at 9:50 AM #

    “As a curiousity, where does Noel Devine fall on the high-risk scale? I don’t recall legal stuff, just grades and the increasingly common HS Dad syndrome.”

    Different kind of risk. If he flunks out, is that a reflection you? I don’t really think so. No one really gets hurt…other than the guy who won’t crack a book.

  11. RedTerror29 09/28/2007 at 9:58 AM #

    WVU still stands to lose if Devine doesn’t play. There no better off there than if they’d spent a scholarship on a guy without much talent. There’s a risk any player won’t develop into a star. The risk is lower for a 5-star recruit, but once you add the additional risk a guy like that will not play for off-field reasons, is it really worth it?

    That being said, Devine is the only other player I can think of that looks like Steve Smith out there – like he’s running on pogo sticks.

  12. Mr O 09/28/2007 at 10:00 AM #

    So is the line still around 8? Personally, I see us having very little chance of keeping the spread around a TD.

  13. Dr. BadgerPack 09/28/2007 at 10:20 AM #

    “This is the kind of disinformation common on the internets…

    Amato recruits AJ Davis, Richard Washington, Dereck Morris, Demario Pressley, and Toney Baker were all scout.com 5 star recruits.”

    Shakes head… I need one of Beo’s giant flashing signs that say “sarcasm” or “joke” or “read the whole GD thread before cherry-picking a comment to reply to” …

  14. BoKnowsNCS71 09/28/2007 at 10:29 AM #

    Some good press and news for the Pack

    http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/ncsu/story/719073.html

  15. noah 09/28/2007 at 10:30 AM #

    “There’s a risk any player won’t develop into a star. The risk is lower for a 5-star recruit, but once you add the additional risk a guy like that will not play for off-field reasons, is it really worth it?”

    Those risks are there for every player you bring into your campus. I don’t believe the risks are so large for Devine that a cost/benefit-type analysis would scare anyone away. Maybe you wouldn’t bring in 25 of them a year….

    That was one of the battles that Amato fought with the NC State admissions office. I don’t know if anyone ever came up with a number…a solid number like “five” or “three” or “eight”…to determine exactly how many academic exceptions would be acceptable in a particular recruiting class. But Amato seemed to think that a good number was “25.” Rumor was that he’d say, “But this kid’s qualified!” when anyone complained that the average GPA and SAT score for the entire class looked a lot like the NCAA’s minimums for both.

    Hopefully, those battles are over.

  16. #44 17 24 09/28/2007 at 10:36 AM #

    flip the 8 on its side and it gives you “infinity”…thats proabably more appropriate.

  17. BoKnowsNCS71 09/28/2007 at 10:39 AM #

    And Fowler assures that there will be water for all http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/story/718972.html

  18. PackerInRussia 09/28/2007 at 10:42 AM #

    From the above article (not the one about water):
    A year ago, outside linebacker Thomas Barnes was playing at Dublin (Ga.) High and winning a state title. Georgia wanted him, but he liked what O’Brien was saying about N.C. State and said he was impressed with the Pack’s football facilities.
    Barnes signed with NCSU and has played in the past two games, scoring a touchdown on a fumble recovery against Wofford.
    “Everybody should come in expecting they are going to play as a true freshman,” he said.

    I think it’s great that O’Brien can say that everyone has a chance of playing and then point to actual examples. Thomas Barnes wasn’t highly recruited or a big star, but he’s playing as a true freshman. Of course that probably speaks a lot to our depth this year more than anything, but it still sounds good.

  19. highonlowe 09/28/2007 at 1:46 PM #

    Aaaand the string of injuries continue.
    Long snapper Corey Tedder out for the year with a broken hand. [ACC NOW]

  20. noah 09/28/2007 at 4:03 PM #

    Teder had done well. Compare his long snaps to the shotgun snaps our QBs have had to fish for around their ankles.

  21. john of sparta 09/28/2007 at 5:56 PM #

    total black helicopter moonbat conspiracy:
    WHERE are these knee surgeries being performed?
    and by what med school grads?

  22. crackdog 09/28/2007 at 10:53 PM #

    Ah well… at least there’s the color and pagentry… or chicken, beer, and friends. There certainly aren’t many who will be coming to CF to watch good football, that’s for sure. We’ve lost almost 15% of the team to injury so far.

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