Remembering Vince Taylor

Tip of the hat to ACC Fan Blog who penned this entry with an update on former Duke Basketball star, Vince Taylor.

For those that don’t remember Taylor, you need to read this kind of stuff so that your knowledge of the conference expands. For the rest of you, I’d love to hear your thoughts & memories on Taylor.

A standout guard at Duke University, Taylor earned All-Atlantic Coast Conference and honorable mention All-America honors as a senior (1981-82) by averaging 20.3 points per game. During Taylor’s collegiate career, the Blue Devils won the 1979 ACC regular season championship and advanced to the NCAA Tournament twice (1979 and 1980) and National Invitational Tournament once (1981). Taylor, who scored 1,445 career collegiate points, finished his career as one of the top 10 scorers in Duke history. He once held the school record by playing in 120 consecutive games.

Vince Taylor was a great basketball player on some very bad teams during the transition of Duke Basketball from Bill Foster to Coach K. IIRC, Taylor arrived at Duke the year after the Blue Devils played in the 1978 National Championship game and had a standout rookie campaign that immediately created comparisons to the great Gene Banks.

I have often wondered what became of Taylor…so this is interesting to me. The comments from the ACC Fan Blog supports my conclusion that Taylor is more disproportionately forgotten when compared to his talent because Duke was so bad in those years; and because his presence was sandwiched in between Duke’s 1978 crew and the 1986 crew.

I’ve always liked losers. I think it goes back to my elementary school basketball team, which won 1 games in the 2 years I played basketball. When picking teams, I’d rather be on the underdog. I’m sure there is something to be understood about my personality from it, but I’d rather be the best player on a bad team than the 4th option on a good team. So maybe that explains why I was a big Brooke Steppe fan when GaTech first came into the league. And I guess that explains why for one brief period in my life, Duke was my favorite team. After Banks, Dennard, and Gminski were gone, Duke sucked, I was a Duke Fan, and Vince Taylor was THE MAN. I loved this guys game.

Hadn’t heard from him since, although I guess I didn’t look very hard. Anyway, he’s surfaced on Tubby’s Staff.

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21 Responses to Remembering Vince Taylor

  1. burnbarn 06/11/2007 at 10:10 AM #

    Glad to hear a taylor update. Brickey always reminded me of him.

    While Taylor was at dook is when we began a nice run against them. V owned dook, but I always had a lot of respect for him.

  2. Mr O 06/11/2007 at 11:41 AM #

    I think I remember Vince Taylor making two key steals in the 1980~ chamnpionship game against Maryland w. Albert King and Buck Williams. It was my first ACC Tournament as a kid and the championship was played on Sat. night.

    Was Vince still around that year?

  3. Mr O 06/11/2007 at 11:41 AM #

    There was a snow storm in GSO that weekend(6+ inches). I can remember my dad and I heading over in our VW bug with shovels in case we got stuck.

  4. noah 06/11/2007 at 12:34 PM #

    Wow. A Brooke Steppe reference…

  5. Texpack 06/11/2007 at 1:38 PM #

    I remember Vince Taylor well from my years at State. I think he was the subject of some good natured harassment in Reynolds one year. He and another Duke player had been pulled over by the cops and whoever was driving gave the cops somebody else’s drivers license. If someone else remembers the story in better detail please correct me. He was an excellent all around player. Coach K really struggled with the transition period where he was playing Foster’s players. Bilas, Alarie, Meaghar, and especially Dawkins turned that program around.

  6. BillyTheKid 06/11/2007 at 1:51 PM #

    That was a great game, it went into OT I think. Dennard and Gminski took turns trying to tip in the game winner. Albert King was Tournament MVP and Taylor was the game MVP. Taylor was the ONLY player Duke had on that 1982 team, he lead the ACC in scoring that year. I think he went to New York in the 2nd rd and played maybe a year, two years tops. Being from Durham one of the best stories I remember from those days was one time Gene Banks got pulled over by one of Durham’s finest and he didn’t have he’s DL on him. Being always cool Mr. Banks, he asked Taylor for his DL. “We all look alike to them down here” It didn’t work, even Redneck cops love ACC basketball.

  7. haze 06/11/2007 at 4:02 PM #

    The “great player, bad team” theme just made me think of Gugliotta and all the times that those horrific Pack teams played Duke.

    Tom would go for 20-25pts, 10-12rebs, a handful of assists and a whole lotta D. Guy would literally be all over the floor. Laetner would do a decent 16 & 6. The announcers would swoon over Christian. Classic.

    FWIW, I don’t see how you characterize Taylor’s Duke teams as bad… not REALLY bad anyway.

  8. dj9686 06/12/2007 at 1:24 AM #

    I thought the update was kind of vague and not as insightful as the headline would lead you to believe. Doesn’t really describe Taylor’s game and time at Duke and sure doesn’t tell us much about what he’s been doing the past 26 years as the header suggests. Disappointing…

  9. OwenDorm83 06/12/2007 at 5:44 AM #

    Tex, you got it right. He swapped licenses with Banks. “Jailbird” “Jailbird” “Jailbird” every time he went to the line. Do you remember Buff had one of those huge lantern flashlights with blue celophane(sp?) on it flashing it in the end zone?

    I can’t remember if that was Norm’s last year or V’s first.

  10. noah 06/12/2007 at 9:07 AM #

    My all-time ACC great player on a terrible team…team…

    C: Todd Fuller, NCSU
    PF: Derrick Lewis, Maryland
    SF: Sam Ivy, WF
    SG: Walt Williams, Maryland
    PG: Grayson Marshall, Clemson

  11. BillyTheKid 06/12/2007 at 9:30 AM #

    Haze,
    Taylor’s 82 team (his last) only won 10 games and was 4-10 in the ACC. Gugliotta’ last team (1992) went 6-10 in the ACC while the 1991 team made it all the way to the 2rd of the NCAAT. I think everyone sees the 82 and 83 Duke teams (total wins for two years =20) as the worst of the worst because of the highs of the years before and after. That and the fact that Taylor was the only guy out there for them.
    dj9686,
    I agree 100%

  12. dj9686 06/12/2007 at 9:33 AM #

    Thanks, Billy.

  13. noah 06/12/2007 at 10:29 AM #

    That 1983 Dook team wasn’t very good, but there was a lot of talent on it. It was just all young, raw talent. Alarie, Meghar, Bilas and Dawkins…I don’t think Amaker had gotten there yet.

    I remember when we played Dook and Ga. Tech (with Yvon Joseph and Mark Price and John Salley) there was sort of a nervous laughter when we’d get up 20 points. Yeah, we were beating them…but yeah, we knew they were going to be good in a few years.

  14. BillyTheKid 06/12/2007 at 12:04 PM #

    Danny Meagher!! Now there is a name you don’t hear much anymore. He was in the class before Alarie, Bilas, and Dawkins. I always liked he’s hard nose play. He was the Captain on Canada’s 1984 Olympic team, they came in 3rd if I remember right. I also liked the fact that like myself, he had long hair. There weren’t a lot of long haired basketball players back in those days.

  15. BillyTheKid 06/12/2007 at 12:11 PM #

    Funny Meagher story. Meagher was hurt and unable to play in a game (1984 I think) but K made him dress-out anyway. K said after the game that he was afraid of what kind of “street clothes” Meagher would show up in.

  16. noah 06/12/2007 at 4:25 PM #

    Meagher really should have been a hockey player. He completely had that thing down.

    He had that pale Canadian skin that looks like it would burn in five minutes of Southern sun…

    He had the mop-top not-quite-mullet that I always think of hockey goons having…

    He played like a guy who ought to have the nickname, “nails” or “elbows out” or “That guy kicked me in the balls.”

    If he checked somebody into the boards, I really don’t think anyone would have been surprised.

  17. Mike 06/12/2007 at 5:22 PM #

    OwenDorm83, Do you remember Buff had one of those huge lantern flashlights with blue celophane(sp?) on it flashing it in the end zone?

    Are you talking about Buff as in a person? I knew a Buff, what a trip! Time frame is about same time, and sounds like the guy I knew.

  18. choppack1 06/12/2007 at 9:16 PM #

    Mr O – I remember that ACC tournament well. I forget the guard for UMd who had a really hard foul on Taylor – maybe it was Ernest Graham?

    I also think Eugene Banks hyperventilated after that game. Great ball game. We got to go that year because of that snowstorm…that was back when going to the ACC tournament meant something. Sadly, that’s all changed.

    Regarding good players on bad teams…I’ll throw some of my favorites…Vince Hamilton and Murray Jarmin. Murray Jarmin was a white 6-6 center for Clempson who could jump out of the gym.

    With any great players on bad teams list, you can’t leave off Mugsy Bogues.

  19. redfred2 06/12/2007 at 10:27 PM #

    chop

    Murray Jarmin, a 6’6″ jumping white boy playing the center position. He was one of my favorites also.

  20. redfred2 06/12/2007 at 10:32 PM #

    Banks was the kind of guy who looked kinda uncoordinated with a weird stroke. I always thought he was lucky, but somehow he made the shots, and he made them often.

  21. noah 06/13/2007 at 8:18 AM #

    Yeah, I’d forgotten about Bogues. I remember the day in 1985 when he and Spud Webb went head-to-head and WFU just ate us up. Webb tried to keep us in it, but Bogues had something like eight steals against everyone else.

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