Great State Moments, v2007

One of my favorite things about StateFansNation is the blog’s ability to archive items for future use. Over the last couple of years we have chronicled special rankings and lists that we have included NC State that would be interesting for you.

Since tonight is the NCAA Championship, I thought that today would be a great time to add a couple of new links to some of the old ones that are listed below:

* CBS: 1983 Started March Madness

* SI: State is Origin of Final Four’s Greatness

* Wolfpack Dominates Comeback List

* 63 Greatest Tournament Games of All-Time

* The 1983 championship listed at number ten in the Top ten moments we will not forget.

Recently, I’ve run across:

* NC State & Jimmy V – CBS’s #2 Most Memorable Moment in NCAA Tournament History

* 1973 / 1974 Wolfpack – #5 Starting Five of All-Time

There weren’t a handful of players in history that were better college basketball players than David Thompson. In 1973, sophomore Thompson led his starting five (Thompson, 7-foot-4 Tom Burleson, 5-foot-7 Monty Towe, Rick Holdt, and Joe Cafferky) to an undefeated season. NCAA probation kept them from competing in the tournament. The probation (some of which was for the illegal recruiting of Thompson) paid off the next year. In 1974, Thompson, Burleson, and Towe were joined by rebounding forward Tim Stoddard and guard Moe Rivers. Stoddard would go on and pitch in the major leagues for 13 years. The Wolfpack would win the NCAA championship, needing to get past a great Maryland team (Tom McMillen, Len Elmore, and John Lucas) 103-100 in the ACC Final. In the national semifinal game, NC State had to play UCLA, which entered the game hoping to win its 39th NCAA tournament game in a row! Thompson scored 28 points, added 10 rebounds, and State rallied from 11 points down in the second half. The game went to two overtimes before NC State came out on top. After defeating Marquette, it was the Wolfpack cutting down the nets.

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17 Responses to Great State Moments, v2007

  1. burnbarn 04/02/2007 at 2:23 PM #

    i watched the ucla thing on hbo the other night. Walton did not mention us specifically but rather he said losing those 4 games that season and they way they let teams back into games will forever haunt him.

  2. thebigwood 04/02/2007 at 2:41 PM #

    I watched that too…it was cool to see Burleson and other State players in the background of the images of Walton…

  3. BoKnowsNCS71 04/02/2007 at 2:49 PM #

    Saw that also. Loved seeing our guys and being the giant killer.

  4. StateFans 04/02/2007 at 3:08 PM #

    I was pissed that the UCLA/ND regular season game got so many clips and the 1974 NCAAT semifinal almost nothing.

    NC State earned at least 30 seconds for being the team that stopped perhaps the greatest run in the modern history of college athletics.

    Otherwise, it was a hell of a good documentary.

  5. skywalkerdt 04/02/2007 at 4:25 PM #

    I am confused about 2 main things I saw from these articles and all of the rankings. First how does one figure that there have been ANY greater college players than DT? Much less a handful. Second the ’74 semifinal should rate the top ncaa tourney game ever played, name something better than 2 overtimes and comebacks to knock off one of sports all time goliaths.

  6. TNCSU 04/03/2007 at 7:36 AM #

    Anyone want to talk recruiting??

    Ty Walker just committed to Wake:

    I think we’ll go hard after Bacui now — if we weren’t already.

  7. vtpackfan 04/03/2007 at 8:16 AM #

    I’m kinda shocked that Carolina never offer him. I guess they think they are set with Stephensen, Thompson, and another recruit by ’08 somewhere outside the state. IMO, it bodes well for State (and obvously Wake) that Duke and Carolina have made it a point to be in every back yard in America, taking for granted any recruit who grows up in state because “surely they are Tar Heel or Blue Devil fans, who isn’t?” The NC classes of ’08,’09,’10 have some very exciting looking prospects. ’10 looks outstanding with Eddie, Mabry, Tabb, Leslie, Emmanuel, and others that will distinquish themselves later on.

    All this is off this thread until you consider the make up of the ’74 team. A nucleus of home grown talent, with the likes of DT, and TB. Sid has the thing moving in the right direction, but it will probably take a year or two of just the right amount of star in state recruits to go from talking about the dragons and Goliath slayings of the past to duplicated the feats in the here and now.

    I agree that this makes Baciua our 1A big man recruit. I would argue that he has been for some time, along with Davila, and Walker. Another big man to watch is Sims from the same MD school Wright just finished at. It’s still a few moves away from happening on the chess board known as BB recruiting. Either we see transfers this off season, or we are having to hope a big man in ’08 verbals to us knowing that room for him will have to be insured by early departing for the NBA or a tranfer mid to end of season. Sounds tricky but alot of teams deal with all the time (Georgetown). We are aleady over the projected 13 schollies if Smith is eligible and signs up for action this up coming season. All sources sem a go for Javy in terms of eligibilty so we should see him sign his L.O.I. this month.

  8. pack80 04/03/2007 at 8:49 AM #

    back in town and on the web. has the REDandWHITEfromState web site disappeared? Last update in Feb. And Walton has always been pissed about NCSU. No wonder he didn’t mention us.

  9. TNCSU 04/03/2007 at 9:24 AM #

    I think Big Lew may transfer — I’m not sure if he’s going to be able to come back from injury, and if he does, I’m not sure how much he would contribute. He was a project from the start, and I just don’t think he’s working out as well as hoped. I do think we need a big guy who can step out and shoot the mid-range jumper. I’m also hoping we can get a player or two who can really shoot the three. We saw the importance of that last night!!

  10. RedTerror29 04/03/2007 at 9:41 AM #

    ^It doesn’t appear that Sid is making 3-pt shooting a priority in his recruiting. It seems like every recruit of our’s profile I read on has outside shooting listed as a weakness.

  11. TNCSU 04/03/2007 at 10:15 AM #

    I agree, but we’ll need a couple of guys that can knock down three’s if they are available. I agree that I don’t like basing my offense on hitting the three, but without the 3, FL loses last night — on the flip side, if they could’ve hit some 3’s, OSU very well could have won that game.

  12. vtpackfan 04/03/2007 at 10:37 AM #

    Sid seems very stern in his approach that there are “shooters”, and guys that take a three point shot. He obviously doesn’t want a team full of players whose desire is to become dangreous from beyond the arc. With Atsur, Fells, Costner, and Horner (somewhere it was written that Fergueson Could knock the shot the down), we may have seen the deepest line up of three point shooters Sid would want on his ball club.

    He wants a Whittenburg type, a back up and probably a point guard type who could create a three off the dribble if needed. The rest of the time you will see more inside/ out play where if the ball is kicked out from a double team it will be reversed or even re established to the big men. We are also seeing a trend to more athletes, guys who can play above the rim and beat men up the court. He’s looking for players who rebound their position well. Point is, we’ve got enough three point shooters in place as is. Julius Mays, followed by a guy like Akeem Richmond would fit nicely as an outside scoring threat.

    Baciua has more tools then the normal “Euro” type big man. From what little I’ve witnessed of him, I’ve never seen someone his age or size move off the ball, screening, re-screening, and staying active. he is not the best shot blocker, or rebounder, and really doesn’t have alot of bounce to his game (unlike many ohter targets by State). With a few extra pounds on his frame he would make an excellent bench player starting right out of the gate. He works very hard getting others open and keeps the ball high over his head when preparing to make a pass.

  13. redfred2 04/03/2007 at 12:48 PM #

    Bacui is receiving lots of attention. He’s listed as a 7’1″ Center/Forward on some recruiting pages. At 7’1,” that has to say something about his basketball skill level and versatility, or maybe it’s saying he’s a tweener, without enough muscle to hold down a true center position. Either way, Lew wasn’t receiving anywhere close to the interest that Bacui is receiving, so I don’t think that the scholarship concerns are relevant.

  14. vtpackfan 04/03/2007 at 4:49 PM #

    ^The scholly concerns have to do with the availablity of them in these up coming classes. GG stands alone as the senior class (the other roster spot once occupied by Andrew Brackman could be filled by Tracy Smith.) Following them are two schollies in the Jr. class, Fells and McCauley. Thats ten schollies doled out over our sophmore and incoming freshman class. The definition of log jam.

    Still there is so much of the finer details that we won’t, nor shouldn’t know about. It will work out in one form or another, and I believe Coach Lowe and his staff will make the most out of there options.

  15. choppack1 04/03/2007 at 8:29 PM #

    I was a little surprised by Walker’s committment to the Deacs today. However, I shouldn’t have been – for whatever reason, it never seemed that we were a factor in his decision.

    Bacui has been a target of our guys for a while. Obviously, they are very high on him.

    We need to go big for our next signee – w/our current roster having Fells, Degand, Javy, Marquez Johnson, Ferguson, and signees of Mayo and Williams – we’ve got the 1 thru 3 spot filled.

  16. TNCSU 04/04/2007 at 8:23 AM #

    We’ll definitely have to go big for our next scholly, because who knows how long we’ll have Hickson — hopefully, at least 2-3 years.

  17. StateFans 04/04/2007 at 9:10 AM #

    We would be SHOCKED if it were more than 2, and very pleasantly surprised if he isn’t “one and done.”

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