2003-2004 Wolfpack Defense

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DE Mario Williams – Texans (Pick 1, Round 1)

DE Manny Lawson – 49ers (Pick 22, Round 1)

DT John McCargo – Bills (Pick 26, Round 1)

DT Tank Tyler – Chiefs (Pick 82, Round 3)

LB Stephen Tulloch – Titans (Pick 116, Round 4)

LB Pat Thomas – Jaguars (Pick 194, Round 6)

LB Oliver Hoyte – Cowboys (undrafted)

CB Dovonte Edwards – Vikings (undrafted)

CB Lamont Reid – Broncos (undrafted)

CB AJ Davis – NFL Pending (Pick 105, Round 4)

CB/FS Marcus Hudson – 49ers (Pick 192, Round 6)

S Andre Maddox – formerly Jets (pick 161, Round 5)

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36 Responses to 2003-2004 Wolfpack Defense

  1. branjawn 05/01/2007 at 10:29 AM #

    Ohhh snap!

  2. Dr. BadgerPack 05/01/2007 at 10:43 AM #

    Noah- I remember some of those longer drafts. I remember poking through the long rundown in the sports page to see who the most obscure draftee was that I could identify.

  3. redfred2 05/01/2007 at 10:50 AM #

    As you know, it’s probably even more my fault in this instance, SFN. My earlier mention of the overall picture of NCSU athletics while involving BB on this FB thread, was uncalled for. My apologies.

    I’ll admit it, I’m just as bad, but I am the Anti-Cedar.

  4. noah 05/01/2007 at 11:36 AM #

    I don’t know if it’s THE most obscure pick, but Dick Butkus’ son got drafted one year and I don’t think he even played football.

    The MLB draft used to go on until people were sick of picking players. By the 60th round, half the teams would have stopped picking players. I think there was a team one year that managed to draft someone in something like 85 rounds. The Astros, I think.

    The NFL has a good system now. It’s not THAT unusual at all for Mr. obscurity to make the team that takes him. Seems like about 10-15 percent of the players in the seventh round actually end up spending at least one year in the league either on the 48 man or the practice squad.

    I can’t remember where I read that.

    The NBA draft is totally messed up because of the underclassman issue and the lack of dependable scouts in other countries, but at least it doesn’t go on forever the way it used to.

    MLB’s draft is far more sensible, simply because you have to fill out a roster for what…a major league team, a AAA, AA, and two A squad teams, plus a rookie league team.

    I can name a handful of players that I know made the majors after getting picked up at one of those amateur drafts (Rick Mahler and Ken Oberkfel to name two). And you have so many more countries to scout…

  5. Dr. BadgerPack 05/01/2007 at 11:50 AM #

    In the baseball draft you always get the personal favor picks; the most famous of these I can recall is Piazza who actually panned out (in a hall of game kind of way).

    Baseball drafts used to always feature the drafting of guys who played high school baseball then didn’t touch it for 4 years in college because they were playing other sports. Then there were the baseball/football experiments in world class sprinters as specialists. Michael Bates was one of those who actually wasn’t worthless. Kids used to get drafted in the later rounds who had no intention of playing that sport, but teams thought they’d try anyway. If football had those extra rounds this year, I’m sure someone would have drafted Smardizija, for example.

  6. Dr. BadgerPack 05/01/2007 at 11:53 AM #

    Oh, and although it is certainly possible that Butkus has more than one kid, I thought I recalled a Butkus playing for Illinois (could have been a nephew though).

  7. TNCSU 05/01/2007 at 12:29 PM #

    ^^^If football had those extra rounds this year, I’m sure someone would have drafted Smardizija, for example.

    Just out of curiosity, did Smardizija get picked up as a FA?

  8. Dr. BadgerPack 05/01/2007 at 12:45 PM #

    Samardzija (I had spelled it wrong in my initial post) hasn’t been signed by anyone yet although he may have been approached. I think he forfeits 4 or more million if he signs a football deal; baseball exclusivity was a term of the deal he signed with the Cubs.

    In earlier, extended, drafts, a team may have taken a chance on him to have the exclusive right to try to change his mind.

  9. Troy 05/02/2007 at 5:32 AM #

    The fact that we had those players on the 2003 team is unreal to me. Too bad half of them were inexperienced freshman at the time, and took a good 6-7 games to get comfortable with the college game – thus the losses to OSU, Wake, and GT early in the season.

    If you remember, we started 2004 4-2 with a home loss to OSU and the controversal TA “knee” at UNC. We then fell apart against Miami at home to begin a 4 game losing streak. I would bet that if we had Philip on that team, things would have been a lot different.

    Other than 2002, we just couldn’t ever get it together on both sides of the ball in the same season.

  10. TNCSU 05/02/2007 at 10:04 AM #

    Anyone see where the Panthers just released Keyshawn Johnson?? After all that commentary during the draft, etc., that surprised me a bit. I’d still like to see the Panthers draft a Pack player — Have they EVER drafted a Pack player?

  11. noah 05/02/2007 at 12:53 PM #

    They have never drafted a State player, but former Wolfpack DE Mark Thomas was an original Panther.

    The Panthers probably would have drafted Torry Holt in 1999 if: 1) They hadn’t traded the first of two first-rounders to the Redskins for Sean Gilbert, and 2) had he still been on the board.

    Holt went sixth and the Panthers drafted seventh. The Redskins drafted Champ Bailey with that pick.

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