National Crow Serving Time! (Updated 1:15 p.m.: Those who aren’t having to eat crow)

If you’re a longsuffering NC State fan, you will never forget the dark days, and you will certainly long remember the national dogpile on the “delusional Wolfpack fans” for running the poor Herb Sendek (who never beat Roy Williams despite being favored in 4 out of his 6 games against him) out of town. Criminy, it had reached a stage of almost religious mysticism to the sports reporting set; one got the distinct impression that every sports reporter, talk show host and hack journalist couldn’t get to sleep at night without uttering the phrase But the delusional NC State fans have got to realize that the next coach can’t expect to compete against Roy Williams and Coach K!

It got so bad that SFN got tired of the one-script wonders and started a thread devoted to “Chronicling the Criticism” — an impossible job, because the critics were legion. But they gathered some humdingers of self-assured, condescending claptrap aimed at Wolfpack Nation. Such as:

• “[Hiring Sidney Lowe was]a page out of the N.C. State football playbook. Walk loudly and carry a twig. What you have here is a trade-off that most State fans will welcome. The straight-laced, soft-spoken coach that wins more than he loses firmly in the shadow of his neighbors for the tough-talking State alum that isn’t scared to yell at Coach K or Skip Prosser to fire up his team. Style over substance never works over the long haul.” — Randy Capps, Shelby Starr

• “Until Saturday, N.C. State’s search was going beautifully. The Wolfpack hadn’t done anything smart like hire one of the ACC-ready head coaches in their own state, but they hadn’t done anything irreparably stupid, either. Like hiring Sidney Lowe.” — Gregg “Still Seeking John Simonds” Doyell

• “Whether it’s Sidney Lowe, Rick Barnes or John Calipari, it doesn’t really matter. There’s no way N.C. State will be able to topple the powers-that-be on Tobacco Road.” — Jeff Goodman, MSNBC

• “Given this sorry state of affairs, I’m guessing there are a lot of disappointed N.C. State fans, such as the one who goes by the handle gsu101 and posted the following message on an Internet message board two weeks ago. The message is addressed ‘To all Herb Haters’ and it reads: ‘You guys are now getting a reality check. There is no coach that can propel us past UNC and Duke, at least not right now, but Herb kept pushing the program along in the right direction. He was a classy guy, and a great coach. And his reward [was] ONLY CONSTANT CRITICISM AND SNOTTINESS FROM YOU FOLKS! Consider what is happening to State now as a fitting punishment, you ungrateful people.’ Can I get an amen?” — Seth Davis, SI

I’m not even going to try to take a snippet from Spam Central a la “The ACCBasketblog”; just read the paragraph upon paragraph of pure vitriol they provided.

I’ll end by quoting one of my all-time favorite writers. That handsome devil said the following:

Sidney Lowe won an ACC championship, and NCAA championship, and his team beat UNC with Michael Jordan and Sam Perkins without their leading scorer, Dereck Whittenburg.

DO YOU THINK ANYONE’S GOING TO TELL HIM WE CAN’T EXPECT TO COMPETE AGAINST UNC AND DUKE?

I would add, however, that this comment came before Coach Lowe hired an assistant coach who also won ACC and NCAA titles at NC State (Monte Towe) and another assistant who won an ACC title at NC State by beating a previously unbeaten-in-the-ACC UNC team (Quention Jackson).

Anyway, regardless of what all those jokers said back then, I just talked to my friend Scoreboard, and he says they’re all wrong. (Go here to read SFN’s coverage of Coach Lowe’s first victory against “we can’t expect to compete against” Roy Williams in his first try.)


Update: I would be remiss if I didn’t mention those sportswriters who “get it”; the ones who stood by the beleaguered Pack fans and bucked the trend among their peers. Such as:

• Tom Suiter

• Mike DeCourcy

• Caulton Tudor

• John Delong

06-07 Basketball General Media Sidney Lowe

59 Responses to National Crow Serving Time! (Updated 1:15 p.m.: Those who aren’t having to eat crow)

  1. Spin Wolf 02/04/2007 at 12:26 PM #

    SFN – Can you please provide me with an email address to submit an opinion piece for your consideration? I had JB’s email but got a new computer and lost it. Thanks!

    SFN: [email protected]

    Looking forward to it!!!

  2. redfred2 02/04/2007 at 12:48 PM #

    No words can describe what happened yesterday. One game, and all it did was prove that NC STATE is still NC STATE!!! That no matter what the media, the former coach, NCSU’s own administration some of it’s own fans thought, there is still something special that all of the doubters just received their first taste of.

    Like I’ve said before, Sidney Lowe may not have been on the top of anyone else’s list, or even on any radar screens, but he is exactly we needed to reconnect, and he is the only coach who could have done it for the WOLFPACK of NC STATE UNIVERSITY.

    No other coach would have cared about what happened decades ago. Just listening to McCauley and the rest of the players, the PRIDE is back!

  3. Rick 02/04/2007 at 12:53 PM #

    I am the first one in the office so I am thinking a nice full page printout of the news article taped to the front of several PCs.

  4. buttPACKer 02/04/2007 at 12:57 PM #

    it’s so nice to see that herb’s ghost is finally dead and hanging in a gibbet outside the RBC Center.

  5. buttPACKer 02/04/2007 at 12:59 PM #

    I sincerely believe that fifty years from now, people will look back and see Coach Lowe as the NC State Messiah and Legend of NCAA basketball in general.

  6. buttPACKer 02/04/2007 at 1:03 PM #

    you know , I really love this blog for–if nothing else–it’s one of the few places you can talk about f***ing sheep, and not be tracked down and arressted.

  7. vtpackfan 02/04/2007 at 1:17 PM #

    Vitale before the Kansas vs. AM tip-off chimed out that Herb Sendek did great things at NC State but that a star was being born in Raleigh. On the other end of the ESPN barstool scen in Fogg Allen was Jay Bilas with a look of amusement. I really only really know two things about what Bilas might have been thinking while this occured.

    1)Boy, these sstools aren’t to comfy when your wearing a thong.

    2) The next star being born on Tobacco road is some Coach K lap dag that will never be an a_shole like Bobby Knight so it’s really pointless thinking your going to be like K

  8. chilly water 02/04/2007 at 1:53 PM #

    gavins dunk still didnt make the top ten^

  9. dthompson44 02/04/2007 at 1:54 PM #

    To all those who predicted/wished that we’d “get what we deserved” for “running off H***”…

    WE ARE!

  10. chilly water 02/04/2007 at 2:10 PM #

    i hope this isnt a les rob type win, and then not be good in a few years, you guys think sid is the real deal or is it still to early to tell?

  11. buttPACKer 02/04/2007 at 2:22 PM #

    Les is anathema to Sidney. . . I should think that would be obious.

  12. highstick 02/04/2007 at 2:34 PM #

    And if getting beaten by the “Lowe-ly Wolfpack” wasn’t bad enough, then this happens:

    http://www.newsobserver.com/758/story/539208.html

    Must have been another of those “fine young gentlemen who carry on the tradition of Tarhole Basketball!

  13. tractor57 02/04/2007 at 2:42 PM #

    IPF,
    We are all a little gun shy when it come to he who shouldn’t be named. No offense taken and I hope none given (none was intended). It is SO nice to see real basketball passion again.

  14. highstick 02/04/2007 at 2:55 PM #

    Poor Tyler! Poor boy gets picked on all the time! He’s so innocent and unassuming! Listen to these comments on “Inside Carolina”. I am still rolling on the floor laughing:

    #1-BTW, a good chunk of Tyler getting mugged is Roy’s fault.

    He should be riding the refs and, failing that, sending tapes to the league office. Tyler has gotten absolutely abused and the refs just swallow their whistles. I said it earlier in the year, that if I were Tyler I would snap sometime this year. A normal man can only take being pounded like that for so long without reacting

    #2 If Costner didn’t understand the T, then why did he react as if Tyler had thrown a punch? Tyler has every reason to be upset with the officiating.In last years loss to George Mason he was absolutely mugged throughout the game with no calls being made.

    I just wish if he was gonna START to throw a punch, that he would’ve realized that he was gonna get T’d up, and then go ahead and nail the little $%^&* boy Costner and shut his mouthy @ss up. The rest of the league would then be on notice that Tyler isn’t gonna take all the shoving, pushing, slapping, and hacking that has become the norm in games. It’s got to be frustrating the kid to no end.

    #3 it was not a punch aimed at anyone— no tech warranted. how many times have you seen a player punching air after a play–usually out of joy- but punching air nontheless- if the foul that preceded that technical had been called, we win the game

    #4 I agree with it being a good thing and I said it the moment it happened. I’ve not seen anybody get beat up as bad as Hansbrough since Montross. It’s a wonder how Tyler hasn’t decked somebody by now. The refs don’t call 3/4 of the fouls against him. Think of how much more often he got to the line last season. This year, it seems to me that he never gets the call.

    Fact: Tyler didn’t hit anybody; he didn’t get ejected. But thankfully, there will be some attention drawn to the frustration that he finally let show. I think it’s a good thing.

    AND THEY CALLED US LUNATICS?

  15. Mr O 02/04/2007 at 3:26 PM #

    Crazy…I went to HS with that guy.

  16. tractor57 02/04/2007 at 3:53 PM #

    There seems to be some severe “revisionist history” in the comments in the media about the incident. A closed fist whistling by the head of an opponent isn’t a punch? I guess then Bennie Bolton “the bionic elbow” never threw an elbow either. The Carolina fan boys comments don’t bother me at all but the comments on ESPN re the incident do.
    Get over it – he threw a punch and got a T. If it was anyone else from either team they would most likely have been escorted from the arena.

  17. JimValvano 02/04/2007 at 3:54 PM #

    Just to keep the record straight…psycho t…leads the acc in free throw attempts per game with something crazy like 8.4 attempts per contest…but he doesn’t get any calls. Especially when he pushes people out of the lane or throws a punch…which gets everyone else ejected.

  18. redfred2 02/04/2007 at 4:21 PM #

    Hansbro goes into places and attempts to get shots off in crowds where no one else would even dream of it, and he is damn good at it. But nobody is taking advantage or pushing him around anymore than he does on both ends of the court. He’s a physical player and that’s the way he has to be guarded. If he can’t take a little physicality coming back his way without getting the benefit of every call, then he shouldn’t be dishing it out.

  19. Gene 02/04/2007 at 5:11 PM #

    i hope this isnt a les rob type win, and then not be good in a few years, you guys think sid is the real deal or is it still to early to tell?

    I doubt it. I think the program’s in better shape, than the one Robinson inherited, so we won’t have to deal with the problems of the early 1990’s again.

    I just hope we won’t have a let down, after this BIG WIN.

    I also hope Atsur (and everyone else on the team) can stay healthy for the rest of the year.

    Other than that no worries.

    On another note, kind of sucks being a Carolina fan right now. If your team doesn’t make the Final Four, at the very least, you can’t feel satisified at having a good season, given all the hype about this years team.

  20. Rochester 02/04/2007 at 6:15 PM #

    Boo-hoo for Carolina. That’s hilarious that they think they don’t get any calls. Maybe the refs should call their opponents for a foul for running over the Tar Heel logo on the court during the game. Do they really want some impartial judge reviewing the calls on their games? Of course you have to wonder if yesterday’s crew will ever get to call another Carolina game after having the audacity to T up Hansbrough. By the way, am I the only one who thinks he looks like a sleestack? His eyes are goofy. He must wish he looked as cool as McCauley.

    I watched Duke lose today and the look on the fans’ and players’ faces after it ended was like they got knocked out of the tournament in the first round. They were stunned to lose at home. On the one hand I look forward to getting to the point where it’s a major upset when we lose, but on the other, they should get over it. It’s one frickin’ loss and something most mortal teams have to deal with.

  21. gumbydammit 02/04/2007 at 8:46 PM #

    So I wish I live to be 100, and to be healthy enough to get around independently up to the end. Why? Well, I have this list, see. It has names like Greg Doyel and Seth Davis. Way I see it, if live to 100, I’ll probably outlive most everyone on my list, including Doyel and Davis.

    I’m gonna piss on their graves.

  22. WolfEyes 02/04/2007 at 9:47 PM #

    I proudly wore my red blazer to church this morning and dished out crow to the heels fans and got a bunch of pats on the back from fellow pack fans. Several commented on Coach Lowe wearing his, and if this is truly the beginning of the resurrection of our basketball program like I feel it is, and like it felt yesterday at the game, then I suspect someone better start making more red dye, because it makes crow so much better.

  23. forst8 02/04/2007 at 11:01 PM #

    El Cid is a great person, a dynamic coach and the perfect fit for NC State. No doubt Fowler stumbled into hiring Lowe but we can all thank him for at least having the intelligence to recognize the “immaculate hire” when he saw it.

  24. gumbydammit 02/04/2007 at 11:32 PM #

    forst8, I cannot forget how painfult the coaching search was, and all of that is squarely on Jethro’s sholders. He could have gone after a big name and then hired Sid soon therafter. He said after the search that he knows everyone in basketball, so if he was so well connected he should have known who was really interested and who wasn’t. Instead he led us down a tortuous road and made us laughingstocks. I’m thrilled that Sid is the coach (just as I was when he was first announced), but Fowlup did well despite himself. Sid gets it. Jethro never will.

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