Some TOB Follow-Up

As some of the better bloggers out there reflect on last football season there continues to be a lot of Tom O’Brien news to make sure we don’t ignore over the last day or so.

I think that Pack Pride has been doing a good job of breaking down certain aspects of the TOB hiring. One topic that hasn’t gotten a lot of attention (because there is little to be said right now) is the potential composition of TOB’s staff in Raleigh. ACCNow tackles the topic in this blog entry today.

The feeling in Boston is that if former Massachusetts coach Mark Whipple, now the Pittsburgh Steelers quarterbacks coach, is named the BC coach, O’Brien’s staff may move en masse to Raleigh. If it’s not Whipple, certain assistants could elect to stay at BC depending on the new coach.

BC defensive coordinator Frank Spaziani has been named interim head coach for the bowl game. Should Spaziani later get the head job, it’s expected some of the defensive assistants probably would stay with him.

While we are talking about TOB’s staff, SFN would love to see the name of Steve Logan appear on the radar as TOB’s Offensive Coordinator. Evidently, Logan and O’Brien have a relationship of mutual respect and knowledge of with each other. Ignoring for a moment Logan’s obvious offensive genius and ability to groom quarterbacks, his relationships and familiarity within North Carolina High School Football would be a huge boon to TOB’s program in Raleigh.

Logan seems to be holding out for a fat pay check to get back into the college game. Between Tom O’Brien AND Sidney Lowe NC State is getting a relative bargain with coaching salaries – shelling out only (approximately) $2 million for BOTH after reportedly being prepared to offer as much as $2 million to a single basketball coach in the spring. Point is – State should be able to pay Logan’s asking price (rumored to be between $300k and $500k) if we deemed it necessary.

Similarly, the N&O ran a great article on Friday morning discussing TOB and his staff’s shrewd ability to evaluate talent.

O’Brien and his staff earned a reputation as shrewd recruiters in the past 10 years, said Tom Lemming, national football recruiting editor for CSTV.com.

“I had them rated the No. 1 talent evaluating staff in the country last year,” Lemming said. “There is limited talent in the Northeast, and Boston College’s academic standards are high, but they were able to quickly evaluate talent, start recruiting and sign kids.”

Lemming said that after the Eagles beat Notre Dame four straight times, from 2001 to 2004, the Notre Dame staff under former coach Tyrone Willingham closely monitored BC’s recruiting.

“Notre Dame seemed to target BC recruits and then zoom in about December,” Lemming said. “It was like, ‘Those BC coaches know what they’re doing.’ It was a compliment to BC’s recruiting.”

Allen Wallace, national recruiting editor for Scout.com and publisher of SuperPrep magazine, said O’Brien and his assistants “get off the dime fast” in recruiting, identifying who can play, who best fits their system, then making a quick move on them.

“Sometimes, Boston College was offering California kids before the Pac-10 schools even showed up,” Wallace said.

Additionally, Dave Glenn shared some insight in “Why O’Brien Picked Pack, Part One”

Fan Base — This was one topic O’Brien could safely address at his press conference. As a general rule of thumb, large state universities such as N.C. State have more alumni and thus more populous fan bases than small, private schools such as Boston College. When the Eagles have a home sellout in football, 44,500 people fill Alumni Stadium. Against Buffalo this fall, in a nasty storm, only 14,682 showed up. Even during a 3-9 season, Wolfpack fans mostly filled Carter-Finley Stadium, with crowds ranging from roughly 54,000 to 58,000 at seven home games, whether the opponent was Akron or Florida State. The fans also have made a lot of noise in recent years, sometimes even approaching a level normally the domain of traditional football powers Clemson, Florida State and Virginia Tech.

“Just to walk into (Carter-Finley Stadium), and the enthusiasm in the stadium here, is incredible,” O’Brien said. “I’ve taken teams to State College and beaten Penn State there in front of 100,000 people. I’ve taken a team to Notre Dame when they were No. 4 in the country and came out in the green jerseys. The excitement that fateful night I was here in September (for the BC-NCSU game) was as good as any place I’ve ever been.”

Lastly, The Daily Press wrote an article that we didn’t much care for due to its’ demeaning view of NC State.

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44 Responses to Some TOB Follow-Up

  1. Frank 12/15/2006 at 11:36 AM #

    Forget about Logan. He would not be a good fit for TOB. I don’t think Logan really wants another college coaching job, anyway.

    Hopefully, TOB will be able to bring his whole staff with him. That would be best, IMHO. If he can’t, I am sure he is very capable of finding excellent replacements without our help.

  2. tcthdi-tgsf-twhwtnc 12/15/2006 at 11:39 AM #

    Screw Logan. I mean I’m sure he would be a fine OC but you don’t go out and pay the fired coach from ECU that has been out of the game for 6 years or so $500,000. If he was lucky enough to be offered the OC job at State then he should get paid about the same as Trestman. What a jerk he goes around saying he would only take this job or that job.

    Stevie boy it doesn’t seem like many people are calling you if your in your 3rd year in the World League of American Football or as Chris Berman used to call it ‘We Laf’. Maybe if the Skyhawks return he can build upon the greatness the Roman brought semi-pro ball. I’m sure he would of been a great fit with the XFL as well. He hate me.

  3. Evroccck 12/15/2006 at 12:06 PM #

    get the ECU stigma out of your head people. If you don’t like Logan that is fine, but don’t say he isnt qualified because he got fired from ECU. Its public knowledge that the he and the AD hated each other and thats why he was fired, and then the AD immediately replaced.

    It set their program back years.

    He developed Jeff Blake, Garrard, and the other guy who I forget his name in the middle there. Pinkney was also his recruit.

  4. GAWolf 12/15/2006 at 12:09 PM #

    Portee has done a lot of great things for our football program and I’d love to see him stick around. He’s the man to thank for Philip Rivers, and running back recruiting has been stellar the last few years. However, to say our backs are something we haven’t had to worry about while Dick has been here is pushing it a bit. I haven’t looked at the stats, but I would bet that our backs have a worse case of the dropsies over the past few years than any team in the conference. Perhaps that’s just me going overboard, so I will gladly admit I’m wrong if someone has the time to dig up the stats. Nonetheless, I think Portee should stay if it’s at all possible. Overall he does a great job for our program.

  5. Woof Wolf 12/15/2006 at 12:17 PM #

    Logan needs to get a T-shirt that says, “I’ll Coach Football for $3M,” ane get on a flight to Birmingham. If there are Alabama alumni on the plane, there will probably be a big reception at the gate.

  6. Sw0rdf1sh 12/15/2006 at 12:19 PM #

    You aren’t wrong I’m sure. I don’t have to look at the stats to know that…..I was having visions of T.A. dropping the ball like it was greased with butter when I was writing the comment above……but just couldn’t seem to pull that negative out.

    So not perfect, but pretty damn good overall. Good comment.

    I guess overall I was saying it would mean a lot to have him back.

  7. RickJ 12/15/2006 at 12:47 PM #

    “He’s the man (Portee) to thank for Philip Rivers,”

    I think you mean Joe Pate.

  8. BoKnowsNCS71 12/15/2006 at 1:56 PM #
  9. dj9686 12/15/2006 at 2:21 PM #

    OK, now that I’ve recovered from the intial shock of the choice of Tom O’
    Brien, and see more of what he’s accomplished, I think he was a very good choice for State and seems to be the anti-Amato (as far as discipline goes).

    Just do me one favor, Tom. Please don’t changes the Wolfpack jerseys to reflect those italicized digital clock-style players numbers that the former Big East teams like to wear. Man, are they tacky-ugly and also hard to read at times.

    😀

  10. CaptainCraptacular 12/15/2006 at 2:32 PM #

    ^but please do change them back to something a little more traditional than the poor quality atlanta falcons knockoff look.

  11. tcthdi-tgsf-twhwtnc 12/15/2006 at 2:51 PM #

    Logan got fired from ECU because he is a jerk.

  12. dj9686 12/15/2006 at 2:57 PM #

    I second that, CaptainC!

    It seems Logan just says what he believes and doesn’t sugar-coat anything.

  13. Buddygreen 12/15/2006 at 4:14 PM #

    TOB had a very loyal staff and would be hard to imagine that TOB made a move without consulting his staff and leaving with the knowledge that many of them would come also. They can buy alot more house and live alot closer to where they work than in Boston. An issue that was raised to pay the assistants more at BC was how far they had to live from campus cause of housing costs.

    As far as Logan, I live in Charlotte and listen to Pac Man sometimes. Logan said he would only work at a BCS school, work to go 0-12 and get fired. Sounded to me like he was lobbying for the Duke job!

  14. gene 12/16/2006 at 8:20 AM #

    The comment made by Steve Logan on the Pac Man was a joke! Why would a coach with Logan’s ego be willing to accept an 0-12 record? It’s ok not to like Logan’s personality, but to denigrate his coaching ability is mean-spirited and belies another agenda.

    If you live long enough, you may find yourself in a situation where you are terminated or fired… it’s life… you learn from the experience and move on.

  15. TomCat 12/16/2006 at 8:12 PM #

    Gene- read my post further up the thread when you get the chance. TOB is a sound coach who will assemble a sound coaching staff. Steve Logan is the last thing- this new staff needs: for the reasons described in my post. We just got rid of this type of influence. Whether the guy was joking or not- that doesn’t mask his track record as a distracting and odd character -known as much for his epic collapses and stubborn ego as anything else. If you want a Jerry Glanville clone- he’s your guy. If you want a staff which will work collectively work to bring this program to the next level- there are some great ones out there better worth the dollar.

  16. forst8 12/16/2006 at 10:24 PM #

    IMHO, TOB could not hire a better OC than Steve Logan. The man is a great offensive coach and he could recruit the hell out of North Carolina. In fact, I think Logan and TOB together could possibly out recruit Butch Davis at UNC.

  17. TomCat 12/17/2006 at 12:17 AM #

    Again… ready my orig post above in this thread. A partial repost: ………………………………………
    “Logan is an absolute wacko with an ego like you wouldn’t believe. I’ve interacted with the guy personally on multiple occasions. Offensive mind… Yes- sometimes. Really more of a QB coach. His stubborness to his own “genius” and refusal innovate his methods cost East Carolina entire seasons (see: Paul Troth QB nosedive)… and eventually his job. Beyond all the hype, the guy NEVER won a CUSA title (not even close in cusa). He would pick up 1 marquee win & then lose to 3 inferior CUSA opponents.

    His name in North Carolina High School circles… is actually HORRIBLE. He quit recruiting his last two years and told NC High School coaches “if your kids want to play for me they’ll come to my summer camp and I’ll evaluate and make my decision there.” By the end of his tenure he had burned bridges across this state & the high school guys don’t forget how they are treated. Many call him a pompus a**.

    Bottomline: There are some glimmers of upside with Logan- but nothing a well diciplined coach couldn’t handle for a 1/3 the price. If Logan is added- TOB would spend and as much time managing Logan- as the team. That’s not the kind of team dynamic needed for this staff. We just got rid of that problem.”

  18. redfred2 01/05/2007 at 2:51 PM #

    Bottomline #2: TOB is the type of HC who can build a LOYAL staff that will stick around year after year. That’s where the stabilty comes from and it’s also the factor that perpetuated his success at BC. He knows what he’s looking for and it should possibly be easier to keep his assistants around and happy, being in Raleigh vs Boston.

    Much like Sidney Lowe, I am not worried in the least about TOB.

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    […] Back-to-back home games against Clemson and Louisville create a very attractive week in late September. If State finds a way to pull an upset at BC on September 8th then TOB will REALLY see that fan support that he was so impressed by during his visit to Raleigh last season. “Just to walk into (Carter-Finley Stadium), and the enthusiasm in the stadium here, is incredible,” O’Brien said. “I’ve taken teams to State College and beaten Penn State there in front of 100,000 people. I’ve taken a team to Notre Dame when they were No. 4 in the country and came out in the green jerseys. The excitement that fateful night I was here in September (for the BC-NCSU game) was as good as any place I’ve ever been.” […]

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