Pack Rugby – NC Champions!

For an ex-high school and college rugby player like me, this is great news: The N.C. State Rugby Club has won the North Carolina state championship. Even better, they did this by beating perennial NC rugby powerhouse UNC, who led them at halftime per a fine article in The Technician (linked below).

It’s interesting – and gratifying – that much of the athletic success at N.C. State of late comes from the ranks of club sports teams. Our hockey club appears to be tearing up the ice and our bass fishing club team came home with the championship in that sport.

Funny thing: we often hear excuse-mongering from the Department of Athletics that our often woeful non-revenue teams would be competitive if they had “better facilities,â€? no matter that glitzed-up Carter-Finley is known as “Carter Friendlyâ€? in the ACC (and I’ll let you guess why). Give us better soccer fields, they say, and our teams won’t end up seeded on the bottom in both the men’s and women’s tournaments.

The club teams, though, win without fancy facilities. The rugby club, again down at the half against UNC, manned up and beat the Smurfs with pure determination and guts. They didn’t whine that UNC Rugby is classified as Division I, per The Technician, and State is officially a Division II club. They just toughed it up and won the game. The bass fishing club team likewise just went out and fished better than everybody else – and came home with the championship. No excuses about partial qualifiers or facilities there, either. And hockey? Hell, I don’t think we even have a rink for them.

And do you know what the best – or, given this is a Cardiff Giant column, worst – thing about the rugby victory is? According to The Technician, UNC Rugby gets $40,000 per year in financial support from the university. N.C. State rugby, the new state champions, received a whopping $1500 this year from Campus Recreation.

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“Gol-ol-olee, Sergeant! That’s less than ten percent of what UNC gets!”

Now again, our rugby players didn’t complain about this. But isn’t it pathetic that our school, which pays through the nose for inept varsity teams in sports such as, well, volleyball, can’t find a way to provide its successful club rugby team with, say, TEN percent of the funding UNC gives its team? Winning despite facilities is one thing. Absolute financial abandonment is quite the other. This disparity in resources is embarrassing and absurd. One only wonders what the disparity is in other club sports.

Surely our state champions, and our other winning club teams, deserve better than this.

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40 Responses to Pack Rugby – NC Champions!

  1. StateFans 11/01/2006 at 2:52 PM #

    Are you suggesting that these teams have been able to succeed despite the fact that other schools have better facilities and more natural inherent advantages?

  2. packpigskinfan23 11/01/2006 at 2:58 PM #

    where can I go for info on the hockey team?!

  3. yannes 11/01/2006 at 3:29 PM #

    Where’s the link?

  4. cfpack03 11/01/2006 at 3:44 PM #

    I can get the joke about the bass fishing team, but is the Rugby title true?

  5. Cardiff Giant 11/01/2006 at 3:54 PM #

    For the person who asked about hockey:

    http://www.ncstatehockey.org/

  6. cfpack03 11/01/2006 at 3:54 PM #

    nevermind, I see the posts on the last topic.
    Congrats to the team

  7. cfpack03 11/01/2006 at 3:54 PM #

    and now I see your new links here, thanks

  8. redfred2 11/01/2006 at 3:56 PM #

    Just thought a good laugh might be in order.

    There is really no where that this comment fits. Not the thread where it was typed, not here, really no where. But here goes:

    “Yeah, LF handled that Lavin, Calipari and Belein fiasco like Colombo. He sure didn’t appear too smart, did he?”

    That is one man’s recent statement proclaiming that Lee Fowler out foxed the universe, back during BB coaching search.

    Yep, Ol’ Lee pulled a good one. Had me a going, that’s for sure!!!

    BuuuWaHaWaHaWaHa!!!

  9. cornellpackfan 11/01/2006 at 4:26 PM #

    why can’t state bring back the lacrosse team as well. this sport is catching on across the country, and according to my parents who went to state in the early 70s state used to have a lacrosse team back in the day. Maybe it was just a club team back then as it is now? I just think that if Carolina can field a team why can’t we do the same.

  10. Cardiff Giant 11/01/2006 at 4:28 PM #

    NC State used to have men’s lacrosse varsity team but it was disbanded over 20 years ago. There are various reasons/excuses given as to why.

    With the awful Title IX, it is unlikely State will implement men’s lax in the near future, though I note Title IX did not give UNC any trouble on this subject.

  11. Trout 11/01/2006 at 4:32 PM #

    NC State was pretty good a LAX back in the day. If I’m not mistaken, NC State had the leading LAX scorer in the nation, a guy named Stan Cockerrton, or something like that.

    I’d love for LAX to be back at NC State. The ACC is the premiere LAX conference, as UNC, UVA, MD have all won National Titles. Duke may have won one as well. UVA is the defending LAX champion.

  12. cornellpackfan 11/01/2006 at 4:51 PM #

    yeah trout i just saw that from 1977-1980 Stan Cockerton was first team all america 3 times, helped Canada beat the U.S. the last time they did that in 1978. he is one of the best players of all time. As is another state player Tim Nelson who transferred out of here to syracuse i guess when the team disbanded in 1980 i think.

  13. cornellpackfan 11/01/2006 at 4:56 PM #

    actually team must have disbanded in 1982, anyways I would love to see us return to dominance, in a sport that is starting to take hold in the RDU area, and especially considering that the ACC is such a lacrosse powerhouse

  14. class of 74 11/01/2006 at 5:34 PM #

    Yes I can here it now. We’re #1, we’re #1, in Bass Fishing. When does Nascar become a club sport at good ol’ NCSU?

    Also, can we get a parade down the new Fayetteville St. for our new bass fishing heroes? They deserve it more than a fourth place football team did.

  15. ldr of pk 75 11/01/2006 at 6:16 PM #

    To Cornellpackfan: we did have a Lacrosse team in the 70’s, and at one time not bad either. Title IX is all you have to say. As I said in another post, our womens Basketball team isn’t really competitive anymore compared to the teams we used to field. We were the class of the league, but no more. Once conference season heats up we fade against the powers. And, this is the one womens sport that stands a chance of being revenue producing with profit rather than just consuming. Just another shame in our atheletic program.

  16. packpigskinfan23 11/01/2006 at 7:31 PM #

    please fill me in on what Title IX is….

  17. CarnifeX 11/01/2006 at 7:45 PM #

    NCSU only wins when its not supposed to….maybe we should take everything away from all our sports and put it into our chess club.

  18. Andy 11/01/2006 at 8:15 PM #

    Title IX requires an equal number of men’s and women’s scholarship sports

  19. Andy 11/01/2006 at 8:17 PM #

    sorry hit submit too quick, meant to add this

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_IX

  20. WolfPup35 11/01/2006 at 8:59 PM #

    I have been watching NCSU hockey for a while now, and I can honestly say that these guys can flat out skate! I don’t really see anyone on the remaining schedule that will be a huge problem for these kids to beat. Hell, look what they did to poor little APP STATE!!

  21. Judgebac 11/01/2006 at 9:33 PM #

    The Bass fishing story is legit. See this story http://www.newsobserver.com/752/story/501953.html

  22. swedish 11/01/2006 at 9:47 PM #

    The hockey team is playing great but they havnt really played a good opponent yet. There is talk they might start playing in Dorton Arena..but need to raise 300,000

  23. redfred2 11/01/2006 at 11:23 PM #

    Judgebac

    Those guys should have stuck with spinner baits all day long, even if they weren’t producing any fish. They may have caught one very LATE in the day if they would have just stuck with it, even if it hadn’t worked all day.

    Who in the hell is this so-called bass fishing coach anyway? You can’t experiment and change stuff around like that while wearing a pair of Wolfpack coveralls. He must be new.

  24. redfred2 11/02/2006 at 12:37 AM #

    Big time recruiting news

    P.G.- rangey 6’2″ 185lbs, with, and I quote “UNLIMITED SKILLS” and ability to produce in a hurry, around the net

    Says he’s ready to commit to NCSU early. Also says he signed because he wants to compete in the ACC and a coach who’s been there and knows what a national championship feels like.

    Anybody else already heard the news???

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