23<24<31 NC State Drops 4th Straight (Updated)

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NC State’s offense only manages 9 points and (once again) the Wolfpack fails to break the 24 point barrier in a Homecoming loss to Ga Tech. With three games remaining on the schedule, NC State must win out to qualify for a bowl.

After almost seven complete seasons, the following is Chuck Amato’s record vs ACC competition:

1-1 vs Boston College
2-4 vs Clemson
4-0 vs Duke
4-3 vs Florida State
2-5 vs Georgia Tech
2-5 vs Maryland
0-1 vs Miami
3-3 vs North Carolina
2-3 vs Virginia
1-1 vs Virginia Tech
4-3 vs Wake Forest

Summary Statistics:

* 25- 29 overall ACC record.

* Winning record against 3 ACC programs – Florida State, Wake Forest and Duke.

* .500 record against 4 ACC programs.

* Losing record against 4 ACC programs.

* 11-6 vs the Big Four

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33 Responses to 23<24<31 NC State Drops 4th Straight (Updated)

  1. slushy1975 11/04/2006 at 11:56 PM #

    Do you REALLY want to go to a bowl with a 6-6 record?

    While .500 would beat pre-season expectations by two or three victories, I’m not sure how you rally the team or the fans with a .500 record heading into a bowl game.

    Maybe we should hang loose and hope Justin Burke is a great part of the answer in 2007. Thanks to Daniel Evans for preserving the red shirt for next year.

  2. SuperStuff 11/05/2006 at 12:13 AM #

    Ugghhh….

  3. redfred2 11/05/2006 at 12:22 AM #

    I volunteered some time this afternoon and evening, so I didn’t see or hear a second of the ballgame. I just checked out the stats on SI. I remembered saying I thought they needed to pass the ball, and early, and often.

    Like I said, I wasn’t able to see any of it, but it seems I got what I asked for.

    54 times

  4. one00_proof 11/05/2006 at 12:46 AM #

    Not to be a bad fan or anything, but I would be very interested in seeing the StateFans blog do a small entry on any possible OCs that might be garnering some interest in NC State. I think we can all say for sure that Trestman is gone by the end of the season and Amato knows he needs a DRASTIC change on offense if he wants to save his career next year. I’m not too knowledgable about OCs (other than RAWFS assertion that we should hire Frank Cignetti) so I’m hoping StateFans can give us some info of possible replacements for next year. Again, I’m not trying to be “bad fan” by calling for a coordinator’s head even before the season plays out or giving him a chance since it’s only his 2nd year, but the lethargic offense, miscommunication on routes and dropped passes (yes, OCs can be blamed for that) lead me to believe that a change is forthcoming starting with the OC.

  5. Wolfpack4ever 11/05/2006 at 1:24 AM #

    redfred2 Says: “I volunteered some time this afternoon and evening, so I didn’t see or hear a second of the ballgame. I just checked out the stats on SI. I remembered saying I thought they needed to pass the ball, and early, and often.”

    Redfred, We didn’t pass often enough. Our running game was pathetic. WE ran for a first down once. So why, after we moved the ball to the nine yard line with passes, did we run 3 straight times?

    I’m convinced. Our offensive play callers are boobs. Count me in. I don’t think Chuck has what it takes to win as a HC.

  6. redfred2 11/05/2006 at 1:35 AM #

    4ever

    Just looking at box scores, I also noticed that after two penalties, a running play was called each time. That’s so bad in itself, but not when the running game is just not working at all, for whatever reason, and you have more than the usual 10 yds to pick up a first down?

  7. redfred2 11/05/2006 at 1:37 AM #

    ^that’s “NOT” so bad

  8. bTHEredterror 11/05/2006 at 2:06 AM #

    We are quite likely to have nothing left to play for…….except ruining ya’lls good time.

  9. dj9686 11/05/2006 at 2:53 AM #

    PS-I didn’t watch the game but did as someone mentioned above and checked out the stats on CNN-SI. We’d run wide right or left on first down and the then second and third the stats read “Evans, incomplete pass right,” “Evans, incomplete pass left.” No runs up the middle. Just how hard-headed is Trestman. 54 freakin’ passes and less than 25 completed. What an imagination. Lest we forget, the offense only accounted for 9 points and were put in position by the D to score more, but didn’t. The D scores a touchdown and so does special teams and we still can’t win? I’d be a horrible football coach because I would have fired Trestman on the field. Wouldn’t even had let him exit through the locker rooms. “We’ll FedEX you that lousey playbook, Trest. You can keep the shades. The Raiders are desperate, maybe they’ll hire ya back. They seem to like re-tred, been out of work a while coaches.”

  10. vtpackfan 11/05/2006 at 7:24 AM #

    I saw where Stone got his wish for playing time at receiver, good for him. Johnson with 110+ yards at halftime, and our O put up 9 pts. at home. What a break we had that Ball sailed that pass to Lowery and Blackman is one of the best KO returners or else this would have been one putrid homecoming. Whatever, couldn’t watch the game since it was on ESPN U, and I’m glad for it. Was that dropped ball by Hill on 4th and 3 the lowest point of the season so far or what. With a little better execution we could still be in the hunt for a bowl game in the gem state.

  11. class of 74 11/05/2006 at 7:39 AM #

    Nine points. What an offensive machine! At this moment only Duke has a worse football team in the ACC than NCSU. Oh, you may not be able to beat us by 3 or 4 touchdowns, but we will find a way to get behind and play uphill for 3/4 of the game. It’s the same script over and over and over. The only thind I must give this team is they play hard. They don’t play well and they don’t play smart but they play hard. But sooner or later losing will sap even that one redeeming trait.

    I forget the national writer’s name that had CTC as one of the 5 worst coaches in the nation but that guy had it right all along. I can’t imagine any other coach getting so little from so much talent. WPC members it’s time for a buyout before this cancer metastasizes further.

  12. waxhaw 11/05/2006 at 8:26 AM #

    I wonder if Amato puts parameters on Trestman. There are definitely some games where we go in with the mindset that we are going to run the ball no matter what.

    Just curious because some of the calls look the same, even with different OC’s.

  13. Texpack 11/05/2006 at 8:31 AM #

    I am fortunate enough to have the U, so I witnessed most of the disaster. The dropped passes and penalties were just killers. It’s sad to see the program at this level. I suffered through Monte Kiffin and Tom Reed during my time at State so I know mediocrity and chaos when I see it. I only wish Fowler was willing to make a move at the end of this season.

  14. BladenWolf 11/05/2006 at 8:59 AM #

    “No matter how bad State is, we’ll always be your Superbowl and you’ll always be our biatch.”

    That was a good one West Coast. I laughed so hard I spilled my morning coffee. Don’t you just love those Greenville redneck haters…

    Back to point: We will never have a team that can “calmly and in near unison” execute anything as long as we have a HC and OC that are running three straight running plays inside the 10 yard line when it hasn’t worked thus far in the entire game. Coupled with a running play after each penalty set back and faced with a first and fifteen. WTF? My sixteen year old son can call better plays than.

    You all know how I feel about CTC (previous posts) and now Trestman is looking as inept and clueless as Chuckie.

    I’m getting very tired of paying my WPC dues and getting 5-6 as the result. And the (we got our ass kicked, but) “We played hard, never quit, and worked our tails off out there” rhetoric is getting old too.

    How about winning the freaking games we are suppose to/can win? If not for two last minute game winning TD’s by Evans, where would we be?

  15. Wulfpack 11/05/2006 at 9:12 AM #

    With both BC and Clemson fallling, the Pack passed up a heck of an opportunity to stay in this thing. Now, we’re pretty well locked for a last place finish in our sorry division that Maryland and Wake Forest are leading. Way to go, Chuck. Awesome job.

    I can see us going 6-6, given Chuck’s track record of finishing strong. However, I can also see us going 3-9 b/c we are plain bad.

  16. BladenWolf 11/05/2006 at 9:28 AM #

    I want to see something positive about last nights game…I really do. But once again, we score zero points in the fourth quarter, have nine penalties for 93 yards, the rushing tandum of Brown and Baker give us a total of 58 yards, and if not for two touchdowns by our special teams and defense – we only muster nine points on offense from three freakin’ fieldgoals.

    I want to say something positive… I really do.

  17. redfred2 11/05/2006 at 10:30 AM #

    Early season it was…

    We’re OK, we just need to rely on the run and accept the fact that we don’t have a passing game, it’ll all work out somehow…POOF…Daniel Evans.

    Last week it was…

    We’re OK, we just need to try to achieve the all important “balance” in this offense, it’ll all work out somehow…POOF…54 passes.

    So I’m thinking somewhere along about 2nd half of the ECU game, that the all important factor of “BALANCE” and a multidimensional run/pass offense will start to take hold.

    One good thing, though it must have felt really awkward to the players, they at least got to play with a lead for a little while.

  18. vtpackfan 11/05/2006 at 10:31 AM #

    The season should be looked at as a body of work. That being said, I can agree with some here that could care less if winning out results in a Bowl game. As far as just looking ahead and forgeting about the past, wins in Death Valley, Chapel Hill and against the Barney pirates would lead one to an interesting conclusion. What kind of team could scale those heights and how would they look in a bowl game that could propel this program into 2007.
    I think the mental mistakes and poor execution would have to all but dissapear against Clemson. As for the next to games, we are the Bowl game so we best bring a better executed and more disciplined game into next weekend and carry it over or tonights performance will surely be duplicated. I just don’t buy into the playcalling debate anymore. Maybe in week one or two, but if these guys keep beating themselves on the field then the question may be whether or not certain guys are bought into the thing anymore, whatever the scheme. We look like Michigan State more often than not and coach Smith is gone after this year, not the OC but everyone.

  19. gopack968 11/05/2006 at 11:10 AM #

    Another abysmal offensive performance marred by foolish penalties and at the end, again, the valiant rookie QB trying to create a miracle. It is a broken record.

    One touchdown and a total of 15 offensive points in two games. Trestman tried one tailback sweep and it went for 7 or 8 yards. He never ran the play or a variation on the play again. Frustrating.

  20. redfred2 11/05/2006 at 11:42 AM #

    “wins in Death Valley, Chapel Hill”

    Two NC schools scored 23 and 26 points yesterday. One was in Raleigh, the other, was in South Bend, Indiana.

  21. jhmd2000 11/05/2006 at 11:45 AM #

    We are living in a world where Wake Forest, by itself, will exceed the aggregate number of wins for State, Carolina and Dook at the end of this football season.

    Mark the tape: jhmd2000, 10:54 a.m. on Sunday, 11/05/2006.

  22. redfred2 11/05/2006 at 12:27 PM #

    Good for Wake Forest!!! ‘Old school’ member of the former “Big Four.”

  23. legacyman 11/05/2006 at 3:38 PM #

    Some one wanted something positive from last night…the defense scored a TD and special teams came alive for another. That has been missing for all of the season. Not much but a small ray of light. I am suffering along with everyone else but I’m not willing to toss in the towel…do something good and get prepared for next season.

  24. PAPacker 11/05/2006 at 4:39 PM #

    I would make one suggested correction. I would argue that the offense managed only 6 points, 1 INT return for touchdown, one KO return for touchdown, then Garland Heath’s INT return to the GT 36, only to see the offense do more or less nothing with the opportunity but kick a fieldgoal. I would not give Trestman and the offense scoring credit for moving the ball 10 or 20 yards and not into the endzone.

    Massive kudos to state’s defense, which I thought did a great job bedeviling Ball and containing Calvin Johnson for most of the second half. A. J. Davis had a few massive lapses that cost huge points. The two things that bothered me most were with State down 21-20 and on the 10 or so, to run three times up the middle for very little gain then kick a field goal. Against Georgia Tech with 6-8 minutes remaining? That was insane. That was no execution problem, that was bad playcalling and poor grasp of reality, either at the level of Trestman or Amato or both. To go up 2 points with GT having that long to score? They scored twice after that. Idiocy.

    Speaking of which, another example. When you have a 3rd and 7 and your go to receiver runs a 5 yard pattern and turns around, catches the ball and goes down three yards short, as has happened over and over this season, that is Trestman, Trestman, Trestman. To claim otherwise just makes Amato look dumb too.

    Second maddening moment, State had Georgia Tech in a third down and held, then after the play, one of the defensive linemen knocked a GT player on his back, gaining a 15-yard personal foul penalthy, and GT scored a play or two later. Then seeing Amato have a father son chat on the sideline with the State player. What idiocy. ( I may have the details a little off on this but I’m fairly close).

    To restate the errant, State cannot beat other teams as long as State’s coaching staff keeps beating State.

  25. TomCat 11/05/2006 at 11:38 PM #

    Clemson, UNC, ECU: Reasonable chance to end on a positive swing. Clemson (past 2 wks) & UNC (all season long) aren’t hitting on all cylinders. ECU is good (wins over UVA, @Southern Miss & @UCF -past 4 weeks) but -coming to Carter-Finley, NCS has to be favored.

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