Getting Nasty Out There for A Coach

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In today’s N&O, Chip Alexander highlighted most of the key on-field/execution problems surrounding NC State football this year and penned a nice article that was dead on with many of the observations that you have read here — just without the ‘fan emotion’.

In ‘Slumping Wolfpack seeks solutions’ Alexander goes into detail about:

(1) A SLOW-STARTING OFFENSE
(2) THE RASH OF PENALTIES
(3) THE TURNOVER MARGIN
(4) SHAKY KICKING GAME

Alexander also references a video that has popped up on YouTube highlighting many of the Pack’s problems this year by using the team’s video introduction that is played on the Carter-Finley scoreboard before every game. (Which is odd since we have never been able to find the actual Carter-Finley scoreboard intro on YouTube!)

The video that Alexander is referencing is actually the second video embeded in this entry. We are calling your attention to another video that was done last year in the first video below to highlight the consistency of the broken-record of the problems within NC State football regardless of what year the calendar shows.

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123 Responses to Getting Nasty Out There for A Coach

  1. GAWolf 10/31/2006 at 9:27 AM #

    I listen to Amato’s press conferences and read Amato’s statements and I get the picture he’s just not very bright.

  2. redfred2 10/31/2006 at 10:01 AM #

    A total of 3 points, in the last seven first quarters.

    Amato says it’s not the play calling, no need to throw the ball downfield, the good news is that the staff is trying achieve balance on offense.

    I’m pretty sure that once Amato and Trestman start to feel comfortable about “balance” issue, that they can double, or almost even triple, that first quarter scoring season total over the course of the next four games.

    Just two field goals, and they’re genius’s.

  3. Wolfpack4ever 10/31/2006 at 10:14 AM #

    GAWolf Says: “I listen to Amato’s press conferences and read Amato’s statements and I get the picture he’s just not very bright.”

    Not defending Amato but sometimes the pictures we get are colored by our prejudices. Amato has a degree in Mathematics Education and a Masters in Education. Of course it is possible that Chuck has been educated a couple of years past his intelligence. Einstein was considered by his teachers to be not too bright also, not that Chuck is an Einstein by any stretch of the imagination.

  4. Wolfpack4ever 10/31/2006 at 10:20 AM #

    redfred2 Says: “Amato says it’s not the play calling, no need to throw the ball downfield, the good news is that the staff is trying achieve balance on offense.”

    Not defending Amato here but how is achieving balance saying ‘no need to throw the ball downfield’? Isn’t throwing the ball down field part of achieving balance? What would constitute achieving balance and what would satisfy throwing the ball down field? Did Evans throw for 220 yards in the flat? If so maybe we should throw in the flat more often.

  5. Wolf-n-Atl 10/31/2006 at 10:33 AM #

    I’d like to see us BALANCE our scoring in the first and second halves.

  6. wufpaxno1 10/31/2006 at 10:37 AM #

    Fred, that was priceless!

  7. redfred2 10/31/2006 at 10:39 AM #

    It’s fact in football that in the first three quarters of any game, after a penalty, that the QB’s arm goes limp and the receivers abiltities to go up and make circus catches in traffic, are severely reduced.

    That’s when a coaching staff needs to run a play that has proven, over and over again, to pick up 3 yards or less, to offset that 5 yard penalty.

    It’s all about balance.

  8. redfred2 10/31/2006 at 10:52 AM #

    Wolfpack4ever

    I think you were traveling, but did you have an opportunity to watch the ballgame?

    I know you can’t help but defend against everything I say, but did you watch the ballgame?

  9. RAWFS 10/31/2006 at 10:56 AM #

    “Einstein was considered by his teachers to be not too bright also, not that Chuck is an Einstein by any stretch of the imagination.”

    4ever, your analogy is absurd. Comparing Chuck Amato to Einstein. What’s next, a comparison of Chuck Amato and Vince Lombardi?

  10. packer74 10/31/2006 at 10:58 AM #

    The videos say it all. Ground Hog Day. Day Ja Voo. Broken Record. Dooh.

  11. redfred2 10/31/2006 at 11:07 AM #

    Watch out shortly for 4ever’s- Trestman= Charles Atlas analogy.

  12. Sam92 10/31/2006 at 11:14 AM #

    In the article he says that we have to win 3 out of 4 to be bowl eligible, i.e., finish 6-6 — but wouldn’t we have to win all 4 (7-5), because App. State doesn’t count towards bowl eligibility?

  13. redfred2 10/31/2006 at 11:18 AM #

    4ever- Directly from the article:

    “While many fans may clamor for a more aggressive approach, with quarterback Daniel Evans flinging the ball early, Amato insisted the offense must be balanced.

    “You need to mix it up,” he said. “You can’t just do this or do that. When you’re balanced it makes things more difficult, and that’s what we’re trying to do.” ”

    My question is when Chuck says “it makes things difficult,” he is absolutely correct there, but for who?

  14. RAWFS 10/31/2006 at 11:18 AM #

    They dropped the 1aa rule when the schedule went to 12 games.

    And 4ever, if I sounded harsh, it was not my intent.

  15. RacketMan 10/31/2006 at 11:20 AM #

    Hey, I sent y’all an email at statefans at gmail. Commenting because I dunno if you check it often.

    SFN: Thanks for letting us know. We’ve had a backlog and haven’t been able to get to them.

  16. partialqualifier 10/31/2006 at 11:29 AM #

    Nice videos…but…

    Penalties have been way down since midway point of last year. Way down. Most of the penalties we do commit are on offense….which we have spent the last 2 days discussing. Our overall offensive execution sucks…including the false starts. Penalties dint beat us at Virginia. We had 55 or so yards of penalties. I think most coaches would take that, because their teams can actually score more than 7 points.

    Turnovers are being committed by Andre Brown & Tony Baker. I dont see a lot of people just fumbling the ball all over the place. Plus we have had a few INT’s late when we are constantly having to force the ball downfield as time expires.

    It is easy to focus on turnovers and penalties because that has been Amato’s downfall in the past. By doing so now it gives everyone the impression that nothing has changed. It has…even if slightly. We haven’t seen the ridiculous 15 yarders to keep drives alive for the other team that so troubled the team a earlier last season and the one before. If we never committed a penalty and never turned the ball over we would still be lucky as hell to win games with this anemic offense. Period.

  17. choppack1 10/31/2006 at 11:30 AM #

    “You need to mix it up,� he said. “You can’t just do this or do that. When you’re balanced it makes things more difficult, and that’s what we’re trying to do.�

    Why do you have to be balanced? I watched the Patriots-Vikings game last night. NEP came out w/ 5 wideouts – no RBs, and led 17-0 at the half. Someone should call up Bellicheck and let him know that his offense stinks because it’s not balanced.

  18. Cardiff Giant 10/31/2006 at 11:30 AM #

    I’ve seen this movie before. Way too many times: Dung Boy, Son of Dung Boy, Dung Boy Returns, and now Dung Boy On Monster Island.

  19. class of 74 10/31/2006 at 11:33 AM #

    I don’t know about Amato’s intelligence but I do know his act has gotten dull and tedious. At least to me, he has demonstrated over the past four years he’s unable to build and sustain a program. I don’t think you can lay a finger on any one thing and say that’s why he’s underachieved, he’s just made too many poor decisions that have come back to haunt him. If he were to go 1 and 3 over the final four games look for a buyout coup to take place within the WPC.

  20. redfred2 10/31/2006 at 11:38 AM #

    4ever, I am in agreement with RAWFS’s last statement.

    The problem is that nothing is being established, not the great running backs and not this talented group of receivers either. There is not a staple or anything that is reasonably constant as far as a fallback option for the offense. One or the other, pass or run, some phase has to established earlier on, in order to achieve the desired ‘balance’ in latter stages of the game.

  21. redfred2 10/31/2006 at 11:50 AM #

    ^To further clarify

    Unsuccessful at establishing any running game.
    Unsuccessful at establishing any passing game.

    If simple “balance” is the only goal, WE’RE THERE.

  22. choppack1 10/31/2006 at 11:52 AM #

    You see – I just understand why Amato thinks Balance is so important. Does it bother Jim Grobe that his offense is rarely balanced? What about Texas Tech?

    Heck, I’d like to have a day where we threw it for 200 yards and ran it for 150 – and we’ve had a couple of days close to that. However, Amato and Trestman should realize, that in both of those games, our effectiveness on the ground was enhanced by our throwing game. We DO have the talent to both run and throw the ball. However, it’s my humble opinion that our O-Line isn’t good enough at this point (or can’t refrain from committing false-starts) to just line up our first few drives and run it right down someone’s throat. I think it would be easier for ALL PARTIES INVOLVED if we started out in the shotgun or no-huddle throwing the ball around. When you do this, you plant a seed in the Ds head. Also, it keeps you out of those obvious passing situations that we seem to struggle in until the 4th quarter.

    Also, we do need to try to throw it deep more. If it throw it earlier and deeper, we keep the safeties back and make the #s for running the ball easier. God forbid we get an early lead against a Division 1A opponent.

  23. RAWFS 10/31/2006 at 11:56 AM #

    Was “balance” so important when we had no great running game (TA was in the tub) but we were winning games on the strength of Rivers’ arm?

  24. RAWFS 10/31/2006 at 12:00 PM #

    Chop:

    I said it until I was blue in the face last year: the pass can open up the run. Why? The defense cannot put eight in the box. They cannot maroon their DBs on an island in one on ones, especially when they’ve been coached to play zone. They have to balance backwards and slow down the pass. With fewer players within 8-10 yards of the LOS, you have a better chance of springing your backs into the second level where all bets are off. An average linebacker will not usually take down an Andre’ Brown on the first hit. And if Brown hits the 3rd level, thank you for playing, that’s 6 for the Wolfpack.

    But you have to have an effective passing game to get that. You have to put a QB in a place where HE is comfortable. Work on under-the-center in spring practice. Play to win NOW.

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