Monday on SFN

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Just wanted to call your attention to the amount of activity that we have had on the blog in the last few days. Often our readers come to the site and only look at the first headline (or two). We just wanted to encourage everyone to take some time to review everything on the front page in the event that you have missed something.

We don’t haven’t done a lot of big/long entries recently…but, we’ve done enough that we wanted to make sure that you didn’t overlook.


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23 Responses to Monday on SFN

  1. cfpack03 08/14/2006 at 2:23 PM #


    Should I let myself think that this could really happen?

  2. primacyone 08/14/2006 at 2:56 PM #


  3. wolfman89 08/14/2006 at 2:59 PM #

    I would go crazy if the “chin” came and coached at State….Imagine the recruits, status, and the good it would bring to the program!!! So pray he comes to Raleigh as a coach instead of a fan….I can dream can’t I??

  4. redfred2 08/14/2006 at 2:59 PM #

    cfpack03, thanks, good article

    Amato says he doesn’t worry about the press or especially internet chat, but I’m thinking practices are going to alot more intense from here on out.

  5. packbackr04 08/14/2006 at 3:28 PM #


    Jamelle McMillan Is ASU’s Second 2007 Commit By:

    Date: Aug 14, 2006

    Head coach Herb Sendek and his staff strike again! Less than a week after landing blue chipper James Harden, the Sun Devils continued on their 2007 recruiting class tear and secured the commitment of O’Dea (Wash.) standout Jamelle McMillan. Devils Digest caught up with the point guard shortly after his announcement.

    “It feels great,â€? said the 6-2 180 Jamelle McMillan who visited Arizona State unofficially this past weekend. “It’s a good situation working with Coach Sendek and the rest of the staff. It should be fun. I didn’t expect to commit before the visit, but those guys laid out a great trip over two days. They showed me all the facilities, they talked about the plans for new facilities, talked about the nutrition and the conditioning program, I met with the school’s president…I really enjoyed myself.â€?

    The point guard was accompanied by his mother, and McMillan admitted that he told her right after the visit ended that he was going to commit. He did however want the blessing of his father, Portland Trailblazers coach Nate McMillan, and naturally did receive it when he got back home to Seattle and talked to him. “He supported my decision, and congratulated me this morning,� remarked McMillan. “Right after that I started calling the coaches.�

    One aspect that wasn’t lost on McMillan was the verbal commitment of Harden, and the fact that Duke Transfer Eric Boateng is already in Tempe and will begin his maroon and gold tenure at the same time McMillan will. “Just to come in with two guys like that is great,� commented McMillan. “I love how both those guys play. Harden is very aggressive and has a great jump shot and Boateng and where he played speaks for itself. I’m looking forward to a great class. It will obviously be a rebuilding stage, but over the course of four years; we’ll get a lot accomplished.�

    McMillan, who becomes the Sun Devils’ second commitment of the 2007 class, said that he canceled all plans to visit his other suitors such as Clemson and Georgia Tech. His next visit will be an official one to Tempe

  6. Mr O 08/14/2006 at 3:40 PM #

    Is that for real?

    Herb is tearing it up already at ASU.

  7. packbackr04 08/14/2006 at 3:51 PM #

    Got it off and you dont have to be a paying member to read it

  8. packbackr04 08/14/2006 at 3:54 PM #

    so do we lay this directly at the feet of Mr. Fowler, or do we give Herbert some credit where credit is due?

    SFN: Yes, Herb should get credit for being able to develop a relationship over a decade with a kid that went to camp at NC State because his father played basketball at NC State. Thank God for ASU and Herb that NC State has such a great tradition of former players.

  9. TampaPack 08/14/2006 at 3:58 PM #

    While the good news is rolling in, check out Dave Glenn’s blog. Looks like we rank last in the conference for academics and athletics. Great… Looks like we aren’t really getting it done on the field or in the classroom – that blame has to fall on the man in charge of the program, our “AD”.

  10. packbackr04 08/14/2006 at 4:13 PM #

    agreed SFN. obviously herb did some work on the mcmillan family and deserves some kudos for this. But what does it say about where Jamelle, and other recruits for that matter, thinks our program is in general? and does this not bode poorly (like so many other things) for Jed?

    SFN: To be fair…Jamelle has grown up in Washington state. He knows Coach Sendek very well and ASU represents a much closer proximity than Raleigh, NC

  11. Trout 08/14/2006 at 4:17 PM #

    ” Thank God for ASU and Herb that NC State has such a great tradition of former players.”

    True for McMillen, but it doesnt explain away the commitment of probable McDonald’s AA James Harden.

    Harden, McMillen and Botang are a great start for Herb.

    SFN – Boetang is a name that Herb knows because of NC State. He used the fruits of NC State to recruit him to begin with. He hired Harden’s high school basketball coach to be on staff (ala Mark Phelps). Sooner or later he is going to have to recruit some folks conventionally based on all of what Arizona State Basketball has to offer.

    How does McMillen choosing ASU reflect poorly on Lee Fowler?

  12. choppack1 08/14/2006 at 4:22 PM #

    tampa – I’m not sure what the criteria is there. However, we probably score poorly in the athletic area overall because of our lack of total programs – we dont’ have a lacrosse team, field hockey team, etc…We’re close enough to do damage, but obviously, we’ve got a great deal of room for improvement.

  13. packbackr04 08/14/2006 at 4:42 PM #

    trout, i didnt mean that mcmillens choice to go to ASU in itself reflected poorly on fowler, just the state of the program in general, and how recruits appear to be viewing it. And if i remember correctly, wasnt Jamelle slated for a visit soon? To me it reflects poorly on fowler and sid that we couldnt even get him to come visit at the school where his dad went and as SFN just pointed out, played at as a kid for years.

    And i know i am jumping off the deep end here, and expect a few comments on this but, it appears maybe Herb was there for Jamelle a little bit more this summer, While jed was fumbling around the country looking for a coach. Jamelle didnt really feel the love and didnt get the assurance from Jed that he was still our guy. And i know it has been public that he did call jamelle and try to reassure him, i am just saying it sounds like herb did a better job making jamelle feel wanted this summer. This was the inference i was trying to make, that ultimately i have to think that fowler dropped the ball somewhere along the line. ready, aim, have at it boys

  14. packbackr04 08/14/2006 at 4:43 PM #

    o sorry for the double post..

  15. Cardiff Giant 08/14/2006 at 4:46 PM #

    Sidney will recruit his own players, and I am certain we will like the results, even though those results will take some time.

  16. Jeremy Hyatt 08/14/2006 at 5:15 PM #

    this truly sucks, when will the wound start clotting?

    the question was raised, well I think recruits are viewing our program as a ‘rebuilding’ project, one that is in transition with an unproven coach, why risk it? and guess what, perception becomes realty and perpetuates.

    boy looks like at least a few Lakista McCuller years to come; not to be pessimistic, but this is probably the scenario Jed wanted to avoid and why didn’t want to pull the trigger on Herb. This isn’t a told you so, just …. damn…man..

  17. redfred2 08/14/2006 at 5:15 PM #

    Cardiff thanks for bringing me back down to reality. I had already gone off on a long rant on the earlier “teleps” thread. This is the reality of NC State basketball now, we have some good players coming back, but we are basically at square one for the future.

    The identity of a great basketball university no longer exists. Sidney Lowe is first head coach who will try to build another.

  18. Slader4881 08/14/2006 at 5:43 PM #

    Herb never had an issue with recruiting, it was just developing those players he got at State. Sherill, Wilkins, etc…… never lived up to the hype and never got any better while at State. Something else about Herb that some people forget is that he runs the new FAD Offense and he will get his share of players that want to stand around and hoist 3’s………..

  19. Mr O 08/14/2006 at 5:52 PM #

    It is ridiculous to think that Herb’s players never got better. Sherrill got way better at NC State, he was just overrated coming out of HS to begin with.

    SFN: Herb did develop some credibility during his time at NC State. A lot of our fans didn’t think that was worth a whole lot and wanted him to leave.

    We now have a coach with less credibility in the eyes of high school players. In many ways, we are starting from the beginning again in terms of recruiting. It now sounds like Chris Wright is a monster recruit for us. Landing him gives our staff some instant credibility. Not landing Wright or any of the other top players in the 2007 class will leave some major questions to be answered in 2008 in terms of recruiting.

  20. Trout 08/15/2006 at 8:10 AM #

    ^ Agree with Mr O

  21. cfpack03 08/15/2006 at 9:12 AM #

    Speaking of Scooter, I just saw him this weekend in Charlotte with Will Roach at a concert. Looks like he isn’t playing anywhere now, unless he’s in an off-session.
    Anyway- I disagree with the idea that he was overrated out of high school. I saw him play a few times when they were against my school. He was a man among boys and my hs won the state championship the following year (so we had good players); the ease with which he penitrated to the basket was ridiculous. Sure, his shooting improved with Sendek’s coaching, but we barely used him at his strength, which imo, was taking it to the hoop.
    I also disagree that Sid has less credibility. The man has been here 3 months, and LF’s infamous search crippled us this year. Have faith in Sid and support him 100% and we can surpass the few good years we had with HS.

  22. redfred2 08/15/2006 at 1:45 PM #


    Agreed! on every issue.

    Everyone, the scouts, the recruiting databases, everyone was wrong about Scooter Sherrill coming out of high school. Of course that’s everyone but the great recruiter Herb Sendek, he must have signed him for some other reason. Surely Herb hasn’t ever misjudged a recruit has he? Herb doesn’t even get mentioned for any blame in either scenario. It is absolutely and always going to be the players fault around here no matter what, in regards to Herb Sendek.

    Of course there’s the case Cedric Simmons to consider, the scouts and recruiting databases kinda missed that one coming out of high school too. But, it didn’t really matter anyway, in the end we wound up with pretty same results from both Sherrill and Simmons while they were wearing Wolfpack uniforms.

    Can any of you guys honestly compare the two, Sherrill and Simmons, I know it’s asking a lot, but without any bias towards Herb.

    I could add the names Bennerman, Hodge, Melvin, Thorton, Watkins… the list just goes on and on, but the end results were ALWAYS the same.

    It was definitely the player’s fault, no doubt in my mind. ???

    On to now, much clearer thinking by others than any I could muster yesterday has provided many very good reasons as to why McMillian may be making a good decision for himself. That being said, I do not need or want to hear any explanation from Lowe, but I would like to see that round face of his, with that big smile plastered all over it, showing up somewhere in the media. He’s his own best selling point at the moment and he needs to start shedding a positive light in public, and separating this new program from the recent past.

  23. wolfman89 08/15/2006 at 3:06 PM #

    Hey, on JJ Hickson, the #3 center in the nation has State High on status along with Florida, and Tennessee….I know it doesnt mean anything, but we can hope.

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