Marshall Takes CofC Job Nope

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Just call him Bobby Cremins.

After mentioning last week in this entry that:

Tom Herrion has been bought out at the College of Charleston. The College of Knowledge will probably make another run at Winthrop’s Greg Marshall. Marshall turned down the job about 4 or 5 years ago stating that he didn’t want to follow local legend, John Kresse. He doesn’t have that problem now.

We ran the news that Gregg Marshall has taken over at College of Charleston earlier in the week. But…he is not. Wow!!

Gregg Marshall’s eyes were red with emotion, his voice humbled after seemingly endless apologies to Winthrop and the College of Charleston.

That didn’t matter to Eagle fans, players and administrators Thursday, glad that their coach of the past eight seasons turned down his coaching mentor in Charleston to stay with Winthrop.

Marshall capped nearly two weeks of gut-wrench decisions and tugs of loyalty, giving up the job he accepted with the College of Charleston in a rousing introduction Wednesday. Marshall sounded ready to restore the NCAA tournament successes the Cougars had under his friend and old boss, coach John Kresse. Instead, Marshall followed the path of ex-Georgia Tech coach Bobby Cremins, who accepted the job at his alma mater South Carolina in 1993 before going back to the Yellow Jackets a few days later.

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16 Responses to Marshall Takes CofC Job Nope

  1. choppack1 06/28/2006 at 8:32 AM #

    It will be interesting. Obviously, Marshall felt that he needed to leave the familiar confines of Winthrop to prove he could coach. I’m wondering what the heck this guy has done to po so many folks that this was his best option.

  2. redfred2 06/28/2006 at 11:09 AM #

    Big step up to C of C, and to think we could have had him in Raleigh. I have many faults, but thank goodness following popular thinking is not one of them.

  3. tcthdi-tgsf-twhwtnc 06/28/2006 at 11:17 AM #

    “Marshall turned down the job about 4 or 5 years ago stating that he didn’t want to follow local legend, John Kresse. He doesn’t have that problem now.”

    This could be the problem because great coaches/leaders love this kind of opportunity. If you fear replacing a legend at the CoC why would anyone at a major university want him?

    I think the reason the Heels ended up with coach D’oh is because Roy WANTED to replace Dean not Gut. It was an insult to ask Williams to replace Gut after not offering him the opportunity to replace Dean. I think Williams saved his pride after Gut and D’oh almost destroyed what Smith had taken 30 years to build in about 5 years.

    When I say ‘destroy’ I mean this in UNC terms not NC State terms. For UNC this means a Final Four, a national coach of the year and one of the strongest recruiting efforts in the modern era.

    For State this would mean we didn’t graduate our starting five.

  4. vtpackfan 06/28/2006 at 1:22 PM #

    Nothing was being destroyed at Chapel Hill. They won a title, did well recruiting, and revealed what the definition of a lunatic fringe group of supporters could do to a program. It helped that the fringe with the help of the Rams club shelled out suitcases of money and that Roy was allowed to keep his shoe deal that was his; no one helped him at Kansas, the kids really meant nothing, it was all about the shoes. Marshall has got it bad for the USC job as he is slowly creeping up on Columbia.

  5. Wulfpack 06/28/2006 at 1:58 PM #

    Marshall can flat out coach. I’ve never seen more of a fiery competitor in person. He’ll do great things at CofC and I’m confident we’ll see him at a big name school soon. If your asking yourself why he left Winthrop, look no further than the inherent differences between the cities of Rock Hill and Charleston. Charleston is home to Marshall and he’ll get that program back to the dance.

  6. redfred2 06/28/2006 at 2:28 PM #

    “I think the reason the Heels ended up with coach D’oh is because Roy WANTED to replace Dean not Gut.”

    Roy unofficially turned down the job at UNC after Dean Smith’s tenure and ended all of the speculation before it ever got off the ground. I honestly thought he would jump all over it back then, but he is a wiser man than I ever gave him credit for in those days. He knew the size of the shoes and the expectations, and realized it was a no win situation back then. He bided his time, a few years, a few coaches later, and slightly lessened expectations, then he stick his foot in the door at just the right time.

  7. tcthdi-tgsf-twhwtnc 06/28/2006 at 3:51 PM #

    redfred-

    I’m not so sure you got it 100% correct. Bill had always agreed to retire when Smith did but when it came down to it Gut said he wasn’t ready and still wanted to coach. Actually a State employees pension is strongly weighted based on an employees last 3 years of pay. BG has a lot fatter lifetime pension because Dean allowed him to takeover for….hmmmm… 3 years.

    From KUSports.com

    Smith’s retirement flummoxes KU fans
    Friday, October 10, 1997

    Dean Smith retired. Lawrence erupted.

    It didn’t matter that soon after the longtime North Carolina head basketball coach announced his retirement Thursday, UNC officials named his successor, Bill Guthridge.

    …Guthridge’s contract eased Jayhawk fan Alex Hamilton’s mind.

    “No. 1, we don’t want Roy Williams to go back,” he said. “Since they hired an assistant coach, we don’t have to worry about that.”

    The article mentions nothing of Williams turning the job down or even being offered the job. Which I’m pretty sure is why he didn’t leave KU when BG retired.

    We know Roy turned it down after BG and if he ‘unofficially’ turned it down when Dean left it was because Guts name was already everywhere.

  8. vtpackfan 06/29/2006 at 9:18 AM #

    College of Charleston, Charleston College, Charleston University, the school formelry known as the College of Charleston. What was that mess all about? I hope he gets them back on track, to the big dance, maybe even upset a team or two. Then get us on the OCC so we can mop the floor with them, what ever they call themselves then.

  9. Wulfpack 06/29/2006 at 5:37 PM #

    News Flash: He’s staying at Winthrop. Wow.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2504396

  10. vtpackfan 06/30/2006 at 9:48 AM #

    I would take the multiple rejections we got over this kind humiliation any day. Biggest bomb to go off in Charleston since Sumpter I suppose.

  11. tcthdi-tgsf-twhwtnc 06/30/2006 at 10:56 AM #

    Thank the gods that we never offered him our job. He must be a complete flake, he seems to have now pretty much assured he will reamain at WU for many years to come.

    Please, please, please whoever it is that is still crying about us not giving this nut the job over Lowe – NBA coach v. Winthrop coach a no brainer – you may now move on and accept Slowe.

  12. Andy 07/01/2006 at 7:33 PM #

    Andy Katz is reporting that Cremins is the new coach:

    http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=2506986&name=katz_andy

    (need insider to read)

  13. StateFans 07/02/2006 at 10:36 AM #

    ^Thanks for sharing!

  14. WolfInVolCountry 07/03/2006 at 9:24 AM #

    I am glad we got Sid… but I would have been happy with Marshall.

  15. class of 74 07/04/2006 at 6:33 AM #

    Who would believe that Cremins would take this job after Marshall pulls a Cremins?

  16. redfred2 07/06/2006 at 4:08 PM #

    tcthdi-tgsf-twhwtnc

    “We know Roy turned it down after BG and if he ‘unofficially’ turned it down when Dean left it was because Guts name was already everywhere.”

    I probably worded that wrong but it came from someone working the university that Roy W was asked before D Smith left and before Guthridge was named, if he might consider leaving the JHawks for Chapel Hill back at that time. That’s not turning exactly turning down the job, but I am certain that the option was at least discussed prior to D Smith’s departure.

    That would just be the common sense, pro-active thing to do, putting out feelers in the event of some unforeseen turn of events. I know, I know, that’s a hard concept for us Wolfpack fans to grasp, but it happens elsewhere.

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