’06 Pre-Season Football Mags

As we mentioned a couple of weeks ago (Link), many of the 2006 pre-season football magazines have hit the stores and preseason football talk has begun in earnest! No more of this pre-mature stuff!

(Update 6/13): The Wolfpacker has done a super job of summarizing the Wolfpack’s presence in all of the preseason magazines in this link.

Our friends at the Red & White from State are perterbed that the Wolfpack is picked dead last in the Atlantic Division (Link) and they aren’t pulling any punches with their feelings about Wolfpack football:

NC State football was once on the lips of national football media as program on the rise. What happened to challenging for conference and national titles? What happened to nationally respected recruiting? Now, there is only sobering reality and questions of ‘where have our dreams gone’. Sadly, after achieving the “stellar” record of 7-5 in 2005, the Pack is going to be rebuilding this year. The Pack, however, has been rebuilding since Philip Rivers’ departure, and there is no reason to believe that Chuck Amato is building anything of note in west Raleigh. Amato certainly has not shown that he can…and that has brought the ire of Wolfpackers, who believed that millions of dollars were laying the foundations for football greatness.

Blue Ribbon has released some of their thoughts on the 2006 college football season, and Pack Pride has highlighted the NC State players selected for pre-season All-ACC honors at this URL. Although it is not up yet…ESPN.com often runs Blue Ribbon’s preseason team profiles as premium content.

Just this week, Wilmington’s Andrew Jones took a brief look ahead at NC State football in this blog entry.

East Carolina visits Carter-Finley on the final weekend of the regular season (Nov. 25) renewing an old rivalry between the schools on a day that should provide terrific tailgating.

ECU is clearly headed in the right direction under second-year coach Skip Holtz and may be playing for a bowl bid, as Conference USA has enough tie-ins to put any team with a .500 or better record in position to challenge for an invitation.

State’s mindset, however, could play a role in how the Wolfpack enters the contest. If State is also playing for a bowl it will likely win comfortably, if it’s had a bad season and Wolfpack supporters are howling about coach Chuck Amato the team could be flat, which would benefit ECU.

At this point, it seems fair to suggest State will go 3-1 outside of the ACC.

SFN has had some really good football entries and conversations as of late. Check out a couple of the following that will be of interest to you:

* Football Position Talk

* Rivals Gets it Right

* Focus on Football

* Carter-Finley’s Best, Part I

* SMQ’s Premature Assessment

* Kudos for ACC Football

* Wolfpackers in the Desert

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62 Responses to ’06 Pre-Season Football Mags

  1. redfred2 06/09/2006 at 1:44 PM #

    “Herb had not really proved he could coach 5-star recuits well enough for it to matter. Chuck has proved it. “

    “The only thing Chuck has proved is NFL-talent doesn’t mean squat without a good coach.”

    NC State has that same track record recently, in both football, and basketball programs. What’s the common thread?

  2. old13 06/09/2006 at 2:01 PM #

    We FIRST need an AD who will set HIGH goals, hire coaches capable of reaching them, and provide necessary leadership to support reaching them. LF ain’t it!

    I can see only TWO more-or-less gimme wins for 2006 football. I would pick several games as definite losses. I see 1-2 tossups. Anyone for basketball!

  3. JT 06/09/2006 at 2:36 PM #

    Jesus, will you people quit bitching about Fowler? He’s not the topic here and he’s not the reason State football has sucked of late. And about holding onto Sendek, at least give him credit for fucking loyalty, misguided or not. Sendek moved on pretty much at the same time it became clear that he wasn’t taking the Pack to the next level, so that’s cool. Amato is about at that point and he doesn’t seem to have the character Sendek has, so I’d miss him less were he not to come through.
    If Fowler fucked up by hiring Lowe, he fucked up pretty well. If State football is still half-assed in 2009, I doubt Amato will be around, probably due to being fired. Personally I hope Amato turns it around, Lowe pumps up the bball program, and Fowler goes down in history as a great AD.

  4. Mr O 06/09/2006 at 2:41 PM #

    Chuck has shown that with NFL talent he can produce quality units on both sides of the football. He just hasn’t had NFL talent on both sides of the football at the same time to produce quality offensive and defensive units on the same team.

  5. Wulfpack 06/09/2006 at 2:48 PM #

    Yet somehow his players consistently forget snap-counts and the rule about not being able to to tackle a ball-carrier by the facemask.

  6. Iam4NCSU 06/09/2006 at 4:04 PM #

    ^ Don’t forget the mindless unsportsmanlike penalties.

    I agree that he hasn’t had NFL talent on both sides of the ball in the same year. But this is College football, not the NFL. That’s never gonna happen. But we had enough talent the past 2 years to win a lot more games than we should have. I honestly do not believe Chuck will ever have more talent across the board than he had last year. Phillip Rivers was the best coach we’ve had in a long time. They should hire him.

    Chuck has brought a lot of good things to Raleigh. He gave us hope, he made us want to be a national powerhouse. We have great facilities because of him. And he gave us glimpses of great football. But that may be his downfall, if he can’t live up to the expectations he has created. I thought Chuck Amato was the greatest thing since sliced bread in his first 4 seasons. But he changed my mind the last 2 years. This year, we have inferior talent as opposed to the last 2, its gonna get ugly I’m afraid.

  7. BJD95 06/09/2006 at 4:38 PM #

    There is no real argument against the assertion that Amato has failed to meet even the most realistic expectations the last THREE seasons. Yes, our record (in the stronger ACC) would be even worse if he was not an improvement over MOC – but that is NOT my performance standard.

    After three years of underachievement, it is high time for some overachievement (with a roster far less conducive to success than the last three).

  8. redfred2 06/10/2006 at 1:40 PM #

    If everyone agrees with the early predictions, then Amato can essentially take the season off. If he is going be ready for the 2007 class that everyone is so pumped up about, he had better use this season to get his act together and start developing his supporting cast.

    I don’t believe in pointing to future recruiting classes to make a case for any coach. Especially not in the case of NCSU, with what we have seen recently in all three sports. Some good players, a number of great players, have been run through all the programs with pretty lack lustre results. It’s time for the coaches to improve their own programs, take notice of that talent they already have sitting right under their noses, and start basing their concepts with that talent at the nucleus. Either recruit “projects” and learn how to develop them, or use the super talented recruits to their full potential. Neither is happening anywhere at NCSU.

    With the early predictions out, some sound as if they are already giving Chuck a free pass this season. He better forget about that, or he will sink even lower with the rest of the fans and may find his job in serious jeopardy. With a resume of wasted talent, never ending and frivolous game day mistakes, he may find no safe place to land elsewhere either. Talent is down, expections are down, but if some major strides aren’t accomplished right now, with the players in place, the incoming class of 2007 won’t matter any more than the lopsidedly talented teams of the past. I think this is the year to live up to the hype, which Chuck has never down played. This is THE most crucial year for the NC State football program to start a DISCIPLINED effort to improve overall, and with regards to Chuck Amato’s role in that process.

    I want Chuck to retire from NCSU with honors. He’s not going anywhere anytime soon anyway, we all know why. The wins and losses won’t necessarily be the major gauge for success this season. But in my humble opinion, this is the year that will make or break him at NCSU. Fan wise, recruiting wise, all hinging on an upward swing and a different direction for with his program overall.

  9. old13 06/10/2006 at 11:04 PM #

    JT, if you think that NCSU will EVER win a major NC with LF at the helm, you’re sadly mistaken. Leadership starts at the top. And Foulup is far from providing it! He has made enough gaffs in this year alone to warrent firing and refund of half of his total salary, not to mention the last five! He’s incapable of evaluating coaching talent or coaching performance and acting on it timely, acting only on the “suggestions” of major ‘Pack contributors who know collectively very little about the sports business. HE NEEDS TO BE GONE NOW! (HINT: When an administrator starts insulting a large number of contributors and alumni, he’s obviously wrong for the job!)

  10. Jeff 06/11/2006 at 10:57 AM #

    ^ Then he should have been gone years ago.

  11. choppack1 06/12/2006 at 10:13 AM #

    “How do you choose between a poor “teacherâ€? and a poor “studentâ€?? At every level of FB, there are players that never produce at the “nextâ€? level. Are you saying that the coaching staffs of NFL teams are to blame when their first-round draft picks don’t work out?

    To date, State has had one QB that did not work out like we expected or hoped. I’ll admit that I am not optimistic about Stone, but he hasn’t started for a full season yet and has only worked with Trestman for one year. I think you need alot more info before you can indict the coaching staff for incompetence.”

    If the student is passing the quizzes, then flunks the tests – it’s the teachers fault if the kid keeps on passing the quizzes and keeps on flunking the tests. You know what the student is going to do – why don’t you change the test. Thankfully, starting w/ the Southern Miss game – we changed the test – AND the student – and go figure, at least one student passed.

    I haven’t written off Trestman yet, but last year wasn’t the start I was hoping for.

  12. T.A. 07/18/2006 at 6:28 PM #

    Thankfully trestman added more run plays.

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