InfoPack: Ten Years Ago Today

In the middle of LAST YEAR’S NCAA Tournament, my wife and I moved into a new house. During our move… I came across a bunch of old “State stuff” in some boxes that had been taped up and not opened in years. My curiousity got the best of me so I ripped into one of the boxes, peaked inside and found…old Info-Packs!!!!!

I had evidently catalogued printed versions of most of the old “Info-Packs” starting from January 1, 1996 . Unfortunately, I don’t have any prior to that date…which, I believe was the first date that the ‘publication’ actually carried the catch-phrase, Info-Pack.

Since we moved in March of 2005, we have moved again and are now in temporary housing while we wait for renovations to be done on a new house. So, all of the old IPs are now in storage and unavailable to me. I thought that I had typed a couple of entries into SFN and had wanted to throw them on SFB to mark the ten year anniversary of some of the most popular InfoPacks – the first days of the Herb Sendek era at NC State. Unfortunately, I don’t have as much typed as I had originally hoped.

History of the InfoPack
Before there was ever such a thing as “Blogging”…and before many Wolfpackers that roam the internet today were out of junior high school…there was, The Info-Pack.

Sometime between late 1994 and mid-1995, I learned about this thing called ‘the internet’. Using a laptop from work I began playing around on the internet and came across some NC State-related information that that in what was called “newsgroups.” I began posting some information that I had to share because: (a) I was still living in Raleigh, (b) I had a lot of friends who were still at school, (c) I had a lot of friends who worked at State.

Remember that this was a time before recruiting was followed as intensely as it is today. If I shared just a couple of names that were on Robbie Caldwell’s recruiting board, the information was like gold! After some evolutions, the newsgroup conversations turned into some email conversations. Before I knew it, I was directly emailing people all over the world in kind of a one-way newsletter.

Over the course of the next year, the InfoPack’s subscriber list grew to over 3,000 people (mostly Wolfpackers) all over the world. I would cut and paste from emails that others sent to me to share information. It didn’t take long to realize who had real inside information to share with the community. It also didn’t take long to start to develop some relationships with some nameless and faceless email addresses that later becamed known with faces and true friends.

The internet wasn’t as developed as it is today. “Posting” on web-based message boards (and other websites) was not yet an alternative. In the absence of message board communities, The InfoPack became a prototypical example of the power that internet communities generate. For example, if I shared the name of a recruit – say, Damon Thornton – the nature and diversification of the large subscriber base immediately be able to share information that they had on Thornton based on their connections &/or their proximity.

The IP primarily rose to prominence in the “Lose Less, Win More” years. (Can you believe that there was actually debate over the topic? There was. And, Les’ biggest supporters quickly became huge Herb Sendek fans after years of threatening how NC State could never survive without a great guy like Les.) Now that NC State is searching for a new basketball coach in 2006, the IP suddenly feels relevant again!

In hindsight, the IP was a modern day Message Board with a single editor mixed with a large dose of current-day blogging. As simplistic as it was, it also was quite effective.

April 15, 1996
The following is just a little nugget of an InfoPack from exactly ten years ago today.

“Sendek Speculation Grows”
Info-Pack#97: Monday, April 15, 1996

“Speculation regarding NC State’s vacant men’s head basketball coaching position seems to have come full circle and is intesfying around Herb Sendek. Although top tier candidates like John Calipari, Jim Harrick, PJ Carlesimo and Tim Floyd are still mentioned among Wolfpack fans as “possible”, Sendek has been mentioned all along and the last 48 hours has produced more speculation about Sendek

Other random items from the IP:

* Rumors were flying that Sendek was on campus over the weekend. Other rumors placed him in town on Monday. Les Robinson pointed out in an article that he never set foot on campus during the interview process (but he neglected to remind the paper that he went to school at State).

From some subscribers:

* “Heard Sendek interviewed this weekend and Turner didn’t like him (from WP source)…have you heard the same? I guess that would leave us with a worthy Cyclone?

* Jerry Vallencourt (on Charlotte Sports Radio) said that he cannot believe that Capel has not been contacted, like we’re nuts. The station called Herb Sendek’s office today and they said that he was traveling, didn’t say where.

Flashback General

23 Responses to InfoPack: Ten Years Ago Today

  1. Graywolf1 04/15/2006 at 11:13 AM #

    Wow, this brings back some memories of getting the Info Pack
    email and I could not wait to read the whole thing…has it really been 10 years?

    Jeff, you and have done such a GREAT job, and have come so far, thanks you so much… Keep up the AWESOME work!

    Go PACK!!!

  2. RAWFS 04/15/2006 at 11:24 AM #

    Ahhhh, the good old, bad old days.

    Back when the hair was thicker and the belly thinner.

    We’ve seen some ups and some downs since then. Probably the best moment came from beating Notre Dame in football, followed by beating UConn last year.

    Remember how palpable the excitement was around the State team on the Saturday evening prior to the ACC Finals in Sendek’s first year? State’s fans thought that Herb walked on water.

    We certainly were chop chop choppin’ on heaven’s door.

  3. Cardiff Giant 04/15/2006 at 11:42 AM #

    ^ Garrrr!

  4. PTOWOLF 04/15/2006 at 12:18 PM #

    From my work place email archives circa 1997:


    Thanks for subscribing to the InfoPack!!

    We cover all NC State sports, everything
    from football to gymnastics, and from swimming
    to track and field. Our current membership is
    over 1500 subscribers, and growing.

    If you are not a member of the Wolfpack Club, then
    please consider joining. Being a member of the Wolfpack
    Club is the best way to partake in the success and
    accomplishments of Wofpack Athletics. Your support is
    needed and appreciated. If you are interested, please
    email back with your mailing address, and we will put
    an application and brochure in the mail today.”

  5. forst8 04/15/2006 at 1:00 PM #

    Reading this almost brought a tear to my eye. I was with you from the very beginning of Info Pack and was a contributor at times. It was like an addiction having access to information that had never been possible before. Now, we have SFN and the quality of the product is still great. Keep up the good work and thanks for bringing up those old memories.

  6. BJD95 04/15/2006 at 1:01 PM #

    Man, I hate that I missed out on the true early days. During (and after) the 1995-96 season, I was in law school at UNC. I can remember angrily calling the basketball office when Todd (the Antichrist) Turner announced Les was staying. I could have used Infopack then! I did receive a few towards the very end, I believe.

    Oddly enough, I spent my first 3 days of Wolfpack internet existence…vigorously arguing with Jeff on the old ACCBoards. I was lucky enough to be one of the earliest to jump from that putrid venue to “old” StateFans, and to increase my participation there up to the level of writing an entry for the vaunted “Basketball Barometer” series. I was even more honored to be able to join with Jeff, VaWolf, Rick, etc. in launching SFN.

    Thanks for the blast from the past! Hopefully the next 10 years will include much more athletic success than the previous 10.

  7. VaWolf82 04/15/2006 at 1:02 PM #

    before many Wolfpackers that roam the internet today were out of junior high school…there was, The Info-Pack.

    Now you’re just trying to be mean. 😉

    For me, the progression through the internet went:
    – InfoPack
    – Infrequent lurker on Wolf Chat
    – The State of Basketball
    – The original

  8. NCSU4LIFE 04/15/2006 at 1:32 PM #

    Has anyone ever thought about a message board through EZBoard? It is free and the set up is real nice.

  9. paul 04/15/2006 at 1:39 PM #

    whatever happend to

  10. Dogstar21 04/15/2006 at 2:34 PM #

    Thanks Jeff, that was back in the days when I was Colonel21…and i recall talking to Morgan Patrick on the old Sportsline telling him we were making a mistake with the former coach. Said Tim Floyd was right call, he was just coming off the Iowa State highlight season. Thanks for the memories, any more that you find would be appreciated.

  11. Wufpacker 04/15/2006 at 3:58 PM #

    Ahhhh, the InfoPack. Great memories and can’t believe its really been 10 years. Before that I know many of us often communicated on the old old Prodigy msg boards. No nicknames just your user account number, long before chat rooms were even in existence.

    Wow. I suddenly feel old.

  12. Woof Wolf 04/15/2006 at 4:34 PM #

    Yeah, you guys are really old. I remember lying in the dark listening to the ACC Tournament on WRAL, when you needed a building as big as Reynolds to house a computer.

  13. redfred 04/15/2006 at 5:02 PM #

    Woof Wolf that is sad

    I don’t think I go back that far, but I do vividly remember 7 boys, ages 13 to 17, who I regularly fought for viewing space around a fuzzy 13″ black and white TV, every time David Thompson and the Pack took the floor in the early 70’s. I did the same damage to the house during a game that I do now, but it was for a different reason back then. It was magic.

  14. redfred 04/15/2006 at 5:11 PM #

    This is off the subject but I posted this on an earlier thread and no one commented.

    redfred Says:

    April 15th, 2006 at 3:32 pm
    I agree with the article and the comments above.

    Just think if there were THREE future hall of fame coaches, all coaching in the same conference, two of them with a close history as mentor and assistant, and regularly battling to gain dominance. How good would that be for NCSU and the whole of the ACC with respect to the national media. Raleigh would become the center of college basketball attention for months. That can do nothing but bolster recruiting. Put Roy and K on notice. Show the fans that you are absolutely serious about winning again. Don’t play it safe again. Sure, the guy will piss SOME people off, but he couldn’t possibly divide the fan base as bad as Herb. Big risk for NCSU if it doesn’t pan out, but what the hell, a decade and a half have already been wasted. Open your minds to the possibility. It would set the college basketball world on fire with anticipation and Raleigh would the center of the universe for a while. Love him or hate him, the man is a household name and one hell of a basketball coach. It is absolutely worth all the risk.

  15. WolfInVolCountry 04/15/2006 at 5:46 PM #

    I was a junior in high school in the mountains of Colorado in 1974. That is when I heard about State due to the exploits of a certain basketball team. I thought then, “what a cool place to go to college”. Little did I know that 5 years later I would start graduate school there.

    From Hawkeye Whitney to Derek and Sidney to the injustice done to Jimmy V, I have always kept up with State via many modes… from newpapers to phone calls to watercooler talk to the web.

    By far though, I have found SFN to be a reasonable and accurate source of information regarding Pack sports. I appreciate you greatly. (Sorry I never saw the IPs.)

  16. redfred 04/15/2006 at 5:57 PM #

    This is a great blog, not too busy right now. Colorado? Some would argue that successful sports programs have no real impact on drawing students.

  17. Cardiff Giant 04/15/2006 at 6:08 PM #

    I will always treasure WolfWeb, because that is where I first met NIT Stan.

  18. Joepack 04/15/2006 at 8:40 PM #

    Back in 1996 I didn’t have internet access at my home so I never signed up for the InfoPack even though some of my friends did. I found this site a couple of weeks ago via a Google search. I immediately remembered a couple of the user’s names from my days spent lurking on WolfChat instead of working. This is great site that has brought back some awesome memories from those days. Keep up the good work! Thanks. Go Pack!

  19. GoldenChain 04/15/2006 at 9:13 PM #

    Just found this board recently and have enjoyed it. Although I went online in ’95 I really didn’t get involved with talk until the last 5 years or so. So many of the other sites seem to be rah, rah, glad-handling so I stayed off in favor of some smack talking boards. However this board is reasoned, accepts some diverse views but doesn’t go for the flaming.
    Ten years ago I was thinking that Herb was the answer and that Les was a nice guy but needed to go.
    Les makes the case for why you DON’T hire within the family.

  20. newswolf 04/15/2006 at 9:32 PM #

    I guess it was 10 years ago when you got my email addres off of the AOL NC State message board.

    After reading the N&O and having to listen to the “company line”, it was great to find someone or something with the same passion and the same voice.

    We used to sit around and wonder when we were going to get the next InfoPack. It was great, I wish we had all of the copies of the old ones

  21. newswolf 04/15/2006 at 9:45 PM #

    Also, I would give anything for one of the old InfoPacks where you took the N&O articles, then added your own commentary. Great stuff.

  22. redfred 04/16/2006 at 12:28 AM #

    I wouldn’t be too worried about the players, from what I have heard Herb was a demanding control freak and a totalitarian at practices. So it might not be a big ordeal.

  23. WolfTim 04/16/2006 at 9:16 AM #

    This pretty much describes my history too:

    – InfoPack
    – Infrequent lurker on Wolf Chat
    – The State of Basketball
    – The original

    With a few brief ventures to ACCboards inbetween (which always sent me running).

    Used to love the “Brock’s Bytes” on

    I distinctly remember Infopack @ ’97 and forwarding it to everyone I knew.

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