Barnes Update – 11:45 am

Dave Glenn is doing a phenomenal job covering the NC State coaching search. A phenomenal job. In fact, he deserves a free plug and hyper-link to his blog and the ACC Area Sports Journal. Additionally, this link to 850 The Buzz is relevant to this entry.

Dave Glenn appeared on 850 AM “The Buzz” this morning. He said the following:

* Barnes has been offered huge money, but it’s all been done through back channels. Fowler has not met directly with Barnes yet. Fowler will only meet directly with Barnes if he knows what his answer is. Texas is trying to rework his contract and will do so.

* Barnes has not told State “no” as of this morning.

* Our offer to Barnes is structured similarly to Pitino’s and Tubby’s contracts. It includes retention bonuses, meaning if you are still here at Year X, you get a huge pot of money at that time. That is how our package is being “styled.” He thinks our “pot” in Year X is $5 million. It would make him one of the top 3-5 paid basketball coaches in the country.

* Glenn thinks we are handling this the right way and have really tugged on his heart strings through back channels. But he still thinks that unless Texas screws it up, he will stay at Texas in the end. He admits that is purely a guess on his part, though.

* He says his sources are Barnes’ proteges, Texas officials, ACC officials, and WPC contacts.

* He is adamant that Fowler had not met face-to-face with Barnes yet.

* Glenn says we have contacted as many as 10 other candidates behind the scenes, but no names.

* Glenn’s source at Texas told him they thought Texas would have had a press conference by now and is surprised at Rick’s level of interest in our job. Lawyers are involved, it is so complicated. Barnes want to see everything in writing.

The following are some comments that we feel comfortable sharing in light of Glenn’s public comments:

* Lee Fowler has NOT met with Rick Barnes in person; Lee Fowler has spoken to Barnes on the phone, as have many with NC State connections.

* Eddie Biedenbach was one of the first Wolfpackers to connect with Barnes. This was both appropriate and the right move as Biedenbach gave Rick Barnes his first college job in the early 1980s at Davidson. Barnes has always held Biedenback in very high regard.

* Lee Fowler is NOT TALKING to almost anyone about his role and his thoughts on the search. This is a very good thing.

* We feel comfortable in sharing that Chris Corchiani also reached out to Rick Barnes (and he may not have been the only other former Wolfpack player). We think that exhibiting this kind interest from old-guard NC State greats is a positive step in emphasizing the fanbase’s unity and the commitment that the entire program has to its future and to Barnes’ ability to unite us all.

* Chris Wright’s mother has indicated to NC State that there is a great chance that her son would remain committed if “certain” coaches were hired at State. Barnes was one of those coaches.

* Glenn’s comments regarding the financial package serve to help explain where some of the wild rumors related to the money State was offering Barnes. The rumors were close on dollar figures, but (of course) wrong on structural issues.

* That back-end, retention structure serves many positive purposes and few negative ones. Not the least of which allows State to present similar/identical “annual compensation” numbers to potential other candidates without bruising their egos by offering them less money.

* Additionally, sources told NBADraft.net yesterday that PJ Tucker will declare to enter the NBA draft a year early just one day after word spread that LaMarcus Aldridge was hiring an agent.

* We have also heard from some folks in Texas’ administration and booster organization that are very nervous behind the scenes about the potential that they could lose Barnes to State.

* Glenn says that State has spoken with at least 10 potential candidates through various channels. It is unclear if Glenn means that State has initiated contact with those candidates or if State has spoken with 10 potential candidates in part because they chose to reach out to us. As we shared with you in a previous entry, this job has created huge buzz amongst many more (prominent) coaches than Lee Fowler ever imagined.

* Representatives for John Calipari expressed interest in the position early in the week. But, there is reason to believe that Calipari’s ego may not allow him to be “second choice”. We hope that State has been prudent in any potentail conversations with Calipari to position the search as having no #1 choice in our initial “gauge interest phase”.

* We have heard that Jay Wright is not a candidate based largely on his wife’s love of Villanova and the area. We have no insight into the impact that an offer of over $1 million dollars would impact those feelings.

* You get to a point where the fear of being “Beamerized” by Barnes makes the pressure on the situation almost unbearable. We hope that State is running parallel conversations with the likes of John Calipari and Billy Gillispie so that hypothetical agreements are in place so the trigger can be pulled very quickly in the event that Barnes is a no go.

Dominos?

* At some point, the pace of this courtship is could have negative implications on Barnes (and NC State). For example, Frank Haith has been mentioned as a top candidate for the Oklahoma job. But, if Barnes leaves for NC State many believe Haith would be the natural replacement (since he was on Barnes’ staff before getting the Miami job 2 years ago). Additionally, Haith has been rumored as NC State’s ultimate “fallback” coach. If Barnes doesn’t take the State job, Haith’s potential to land the job increases.

* Additionally, John Calipari’s name has been mentioned in Oklahoma. He is also a favorite of many Wolfpackers. If Barnes says no to State at the same time that Calipari says yes to Oklahoma, the dominos don’t fall well for NC State.

* IMHO, a doomsday scenario exists where Barnes says no to State, while OU hires Paul Hewitt from GT (a rumor out there) and GT hires John Calipari. Suddenly, the stakes in the ACC are raised even higher. I don’t place a high likelihood on this scenario (especially since Hewitt has a great recruiting class coming in next year).

* The plane tracking has been useless so far. Someone tracked one of Murphy’s planes from Rose Hill to Augusta National this morning, could he be at the Masters Golf Tournament?

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143 Responses to Barnes Update – 11:45 am

  1. Wolf's Eye 04/06/2006 at 2:31 PM #

    Man, I’m psyched – I’m moving back to NC this summer after leaving following graduation in ’88 — and we’re getting a new coach!

  2. wopacker1980 04/06/2006 at 2:32 PM #

    Guys, guys, guys, one thing I’ve learned as I’ve gotten older is the value of patience. Obviously the money, position, history, neighborhood has created huge interest. I think its safe to say that someone better than our last coach is interested in this job.

  3. Jason2413 04/06/2006 at 2:41 PM #

    I want to point out that I do not consider the delay, and the involvement with lawyers, as a positive for NC State. Quite the opposite. Given that there has been no formal communication between Barnes and NC State, the possibility that the lawyers are to hash out the details of a State offer are slim to none.

    What is far more likely is that the lawyers represent Texas to ensure that all of the promises that he is being given by the university are put in writing. What you have to remember is that Barnes is not just bargaining for mor emoney, he wants more dedication to the basketball program from the university. That is a much more complex issue – how do you measure dedication? He wants more people in the stands, and explicit statements in writing detailing HOW that will be accomplished.

    Also, all of these back alley rumors that Barnes is fascinated by the State position are exactly what you would expect to be put out from the people associated with Barnes. This is because such rumors SUPPORT HIM IN HIS NEGOTIATIONS WITH TEXAS. Read the capitalized text again please, it is vital. The more nervous Texas is about losing Rick Barnes, the better for Rick Barnes, and the more he can get out of them and put in writing.

    Now, let me also be explicit in saying this is just my read on the matter. I could be totally off base and wrong. I have no inside information, just my own analysis of the situation, and could end up looking like a fool when it is all over. Oh well!

  4. JeremyHyatt 04/06/2006 at 3:31 PM #

    that’s fine Jason, we need perspective like that to balance out what is being thought and said about the process. basically we don’t know.

  5. JimmyVguy 04/06/2006 at 3:33 PM #

    I would rather go to a school that has already made the commitment to a basketball program than to one that is just now considering it.

  6. cfpack03 04/06/2006 at 3:42 PM #

    “I want to point out that I do not consider the delay, and the involvement with lawyers, as a positive for NC State. ”

    Does 6 days qualify as a delay? It took us 3 weeks to hire Sendek and he wanted the job

  7. Hawkwolf 04/06/2006 at 3:44 PM #

    Hawkwolf: Says no to Vitale because he did nothing but bash us every time he got a chance to, especially when we played dook and goat city. Vitale was an out of work high school basketball coach until Jimmy V rose to promence.

  8. AirWolf 04/06/2006 at 3:47 PM #

    This was the Lear that touched down in AUS this morning:

    http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0995128/M/

    It went to Scottsdale because that’s where it is based out of.

  9. Old13 04/06/2006 at 3:49 PM #

    How does one go about getting uncommitted fans to suddenly commit over a couple of days – especially when they live in an area that puts BB way down the list of priorities? Seems to me that should be a “non-attainable” in the UT column.

  10. GAWolf 04/06/2006 at 4:14 PM #

    Whoever said Murphy’s not a golfer probably doesn’t realize he owns a golf course community.

  11. boknows 04/06/2006 at 4:57 PM #

    One of his close friends told me that he was not a golfer — Said “he’s a farmer” Owning a business does not make you a participant. Joe gibbs is not a racer for example.

    Not sure why people are chasing the Lear when Murphy owns a Cessna.

    http://flightaware.com/live/findflight/KDPL/KAGS

  12. JimmyVguy 04/06/2006 at 5:54 PM #

    Man…whatever happened to the Rick Barnes seen in Raleigh thing??? I wish I could see that again. It was hilarious

  13. monte kiffin 04/06/2006 at 6:37 PM #

    “As the stomache turns” Damned, this is better than my wifes soaps!!! I vote for calipari, (but thats only if I dont get the job)

  14. cameron 04/06/2006 at 6:38 PM #

    any new news? If we keep messing around with rick, and he says no, and we don’t end up with any other big names, we are going to be screwed. And if the rumor is true that John Cal has been trying to get intouch with Fowler and he has been not returning his calls, and we end up with dave odem I am going to set down and have a good cry. JK. Hope to hear something soon

  15. cameron 04/06/2006 at 6:43 PM #

    Also, is it just me or does it seem like every duke and unc fan seems scared to death about what is about to happen, Everyone of them I have talked to or heard talk about this whats us to go for the smaller name guys, and say we have no chance at a big name guy. Maybe it is the fact that if we do land a big name guy, They can’t take the spotlight not being on them for a little while. what more would you expect from a unc or duke fan

  16. monte kiffin 04/06/2006 at 6:43 PM #

    ok, why is the time wrong?, seems like 1 hour off

  17. site admin 04/07/2006 at 8:25 AM #

    ^ Depends on what time zone you are in. 🙂

    We got it fixed to ET time.

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