What Would Warren Buffet Say About Sendek/State?

I am reading a book entitled “The Warren Buffett Way� by Robert G Hagstrom Jr.

Warren Buffett is the greatest investor in the history of the stock market. I firmly believe to be the best, you learn from the best and so I am currently learning from the best investor ever.

I have learned Buffett will not buy a company (or even own stock in a company) that does not have great management. He has very specific criteria he uses to judge the leadership of a company. This is what I found so interesting and applicable to our situation because leadership qualities are universal and apply equally to all professions. I apologize in advance for the length of this post but I feel Buffett’s insights can teach us a lot about our program and its direction.

One of the main areas Buffett uses to judge management is what he terms “candor�. Buffet holds in high regard managers who report their companies’ performance fully and genuinely, who admit mistakes as well as share successes, and are in all ways candid with shareholders (fans are not “shareholders� but there is no doubt we have a financial stake in the NCSU basketball program). Buffet also “admires those with the courage to discuss failure openly. Over time, every company makes mistakes, both large and inconsequential. Buffett believes that too many managers report with excess optimism rather than honest explanation, serving perhaps their own interests in the short term but no one’s interests in the long run.�

When reading this I was reminded of the interview Roy Williams held after the George Mason game. He admitted he made a mistake, pointed out what the mistake was and made it plain he would not repeat the error. Compare that to Herb’s post game interviews in which he consistently blames “missed shots.� If a person cannot see their errors they cannot correct them. But who cares what Herb says in public, it is what he does in private that truly matters, right? Buffett addresses this point when he says “The CEO who misleads others in public, may eventually mislead himself in private.� Buffett believes that candor benefits the manager at least as much as the shareholder.

Hagstrom goes on to say that in school, Buffett was taught that experienced managers were honest, intelligent, and automatically made rational decisions. Once in the business world he learned that “rationality frequently wilts when the institutional imperative comes into play.�

Institutional imperative, the second management trait I am going to discuss, is the lemming-like tendency to imitate the behavior of other managers. But is Herb’s behavior lemming-like? Certainly his use of the Princeton offense is not; however the true problem behavior at NC State is the attitude that has saturated our athletic department – the attitude to set the bar so low so that goals can always be reached (or re-adjust the goals at a moment’s whim to insure ‘success’)

NC State’s Athletics Director wants nothing more than to “be competitive” and his fellow managers (coaches) fall right into that paradigm. According to Buffett, the institutional imperative exists when (1) an institution resists any change in its current direction; (2) any craving of the leader, however foolish, will quickly be supported by detailed studies prepared by his troops; and (3) the behavior of peer companies will be mindlessly imitated.

Can there be a better synopsis of our basketball program that these three things? Herb is as resistant to change as any basketball coach I have ever witnessed. Herb has multitudes of sycophants dreaming up irrelevant stats to support him (i.e. fastest to 20 wins in XX years). And Herb has hypnotically fallen into the “I am competitive� mindset.

Buffett isolates three factors he feels most influence management behavior.

* First most managers cannot control their lust for activity. In Herb this hyperactivity leads to his legendarily difficult practice sessions and the subsequent late season injuries.

* Second, most managers are constantly comparing themselves to other “companies�. For Herb these comparisons (to UNC and Duke) exacerbate the “I can only compete� attitude.

* Third, Buffet believes most managers have an exaggerated sense of their own management capabilities. Herb does not believe he commits mistakes. If something goes wrong it was because his players did not execute properly, not because there was a problem with his plan.

Would Buffett buy our “company�?

I think it is obvious he would avoid it like the plague. Since the NC Stat ecommunity has already “bought the company�, our only choice is to improve the management.

About Rick

1992 and 2002 graduate from NCSU. Born and raised an NCSU fan. I remember the good ol' days and they weren't in the last 20 years.

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27 Responses to What Would Warren Buffet Say About Sendek/State?

  1. Only One 03/28/2006 at 9:29 AM #

    I agree.. That’s my biggest problem with Herbuffoon. He doesn’t take responsibility. it’s always his players fault. No wonder he has so many transfers. And you think that helps recruiting?

    Herb and Lee need to go. And if they don’t go this year, then Herb, Lee and Jim need to go next year.

  2. Jeff 03/28/2006 at 9:31 AM #

    ^ That attidude permeates the entire Athletics Department. There is ALWAYS an excuse for not succeeding. Not succeeding is ALWAYS a factor beyond our control and is not our responsibility.

  3. El Scrotcho 03/28/2006 at 9:33 AM #

    Interesting perspective – I think at this point SFN probably has enough diverse material for an entertaining book on the subject.

    Suggested titles?

    Anatomy of Mediocrity, The Herb Sendek Story: Assorted Case Herbies, Herbegories, and Statistical Herbalyses

  4. choppack 03/28/2006 at 9:38 AM #

    I don’t necessarily buy all of that.

    First off, I think that there is management problem, but it starts w/ Fowler. I’ve used the analogy several times, if the manager of a restaurant tells a cook he’s doing a great job and bashes the critics of this cooks cooking, why would you expect the cook to change? OTOH, if the manager tells the cook – I think you are doing some good things, but there are a lot of legit customer complaints here – the cook will be much more open-minded.

    I think Fowler’s stance – at least in public – have made Herb less prone to the kind of introspection one needs. IMHO, the best thing for this entire athletic department is a change at the top. We shouldn’t have an AD who minimizes the legimate issues of the fans.

  5. El Scrotcho 03/28/2006 at 9:44 AM #

    You’re certainly right about this attitude permeating throughout…the quote below from a 5th year senior probably made me angrier than any of the losses themselves. It’s bad enough coming from an administrator or coach, but to hear it come from a senior leader is absolutely maddening.

    “I hope this year is not judged on our last four losses,” said Evtimov, a graduate student. “We had a very good season if you look at the whole body of work.”

  6. BJD95 03/28/2006 at 9:47 AM #

    I think there’s alot of truth in both what Jeff and choppack say. Very interesting stuff.

  7. Rick 03/28/2006 at 10:13 AM #

    “You’re certainly right about this attitude permeating throughout…the quote below from a 5th year senior probably made me angrier than any of the losses themselves.”

    That and the “idiots” comment made me as mad as anything anyone has said.

  8. Cardiff Giant 03/28/2006 at 10:16 AM #

    Roy Williams is a hall of fame championship coach and can afford to be honest. Herb is the ACC’s Captain Queeg, and can never admit a mistake.

  9. choppack 03/28/2006 at 10:35 AM #

    Thanks BJ – I think all the proof you need is that both Amato and Herb have taken their lead from Fowler. Herb has always been cautious w/ his words – but he’s also the same coach who basically sent a “Thank You” note before year 6. He also admitted he probably handled the infamous Tim Wells slight badly. Amato was a guy who took blame for losses early on “you’ll, then starts comparing himself to Frank Beamer.

    But hey, when your AD calls a significant portion of paying customers “the lunatic fringe” – that poisons the environment. Like any other schools and maybe more than others, we have our share of folks who are negative – but it ain’t asking too much for a football team to post a winning record in the ACC and for a basketball team – historically, one of the more successful in the country – to do better than a sweet 16 and 2nd place in the conference.

  10. BJD95 03/28/2006 at 10:48 AM #

    ^ Amen to that. Both Sendek and Amato are failing in their jobs even if they don’t earn grades of “F.” But I’m afraid Fowler really would only consider “F” grades as evidence of failure.

  11. class of '74 03/28/2006 at 11:07 AM #

    “We have our share of folks who are negative”. Heck there is quite a bit to be negative over. We have a blatant idiot for an AD. We have a basketball coach who lives in a “daytight compartment”. And a football coach who knows defense but has not as yet discovered the other half of the game.

    In the past there have been a few times where things were much easier to be positive like the Case, Sloan, Holtz, Rein, Valvano and Sheridan eras!

  12. class of '74 03/28/2006 at 11:20 AM #

    Just a thought, but has it ever occurred that Lee wants to be the respective coaches friend more than their supervisor? The more I ponder this I feel like that is the core problem.

  13. newswolf 03/28/2006 at 12:04 PM #

    ^ya think. why do you think he wants people to call him “Coach Fowler”.

  14. class of '74 03/28/2006 at 12:15 PM #

    ^because he KNOWS basketball.

  15. The Truth 03/28/2006 at 12:44 PM #

    How funny is it that “Greg” has so much moral authority on this issue and on others while posting here under a fake name that misleads others into thinking that she is a he?

    “Greg” is a woman. And is probably so accustomed to her opinion not mattering in terms of sports that she loves being attached to the prevailing ‘side’ in this debate.

  16. GAWolf 03/28/2006 at 12:54 PM #

    I bet Fowler’s kids ran all over his ass. But… but… but… but…. Daaaaad.

    Yeesh. I got in more trouble for the excuses than I did for the “crime.” Fowler is what people in the social services business call an “enabler.” And he’s damn good at it…

  17. Alpha Wolf 03/28/2006 at 12:56 PM #

    Yes Lee knows basketball. He learned at the knee of Dana Kirk — before Kirk went off to jail, anyway.

  18. Alpha Wolf 03/28/2006 at 12:57 PM #

    And is being “negative” or being “honest.”

  19. Andy 03/28/2006 at 1:16 PM #

    “Second, most managers are constantly comparing themselves to other “companiesâ€?”

    I have never Herb compare himself to another program, in fact I more often here him villified for the “daytight compartments” which are the exact opposite of this claim.

    “Herb does not believe he commits mistakes.”

    I didn’t know you could read minds

  20. Cardiff Giant 03/28/2006 at 1:21 PM #

    “I have never Herb compare himself to another program”

    Generally not wise for him to do so, at least with respect to top programs, methinks

  21. withheld 03/28/2006 at 1:23 PM #

    Would jimmy buffett even pick us?

  22. Andy 03/28/2006 at 1:36 PM #

    Keeping with the stock analogy you’d be doing pretty well if you bought 10 years ago.

  23. Cardiff Giant 03/28/2006 at 2:09 PM #

    ^ Junk bonds to gilt edged junk bonds.

  24. class of '74 03/28/2006 at 2:55 PM #

    ^More like Enron stock. A lot of puffed up numbers and accounting gymnastics going on there.

  25. David Bruce 03/28/2006 at 5:40 PM #

    And I just saw this
    http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=ap-washingtonspring&prov=ap&type=lgns
    Now I know what Todd Turner is doing.

    Lee or Todd – a difficult decision.

    David

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