Seton Hall Fires Louis Orr

Seton Hall fired basketball coach Louis Orr on Friday, a little more than a week after the Pirates lost by 20 points in the opening round of the NCAA Tournament.

SFN Note: We should all realize there is no shame in losing by 20 points in games involving Seton Hall

Orr was honored by the as the 2003 Big East Coach of the Year and owns the distinction of being the first former Big East player to coach at a conference institution and then win the top honor.

Orr’s firing is another in the long list of examples of how other schools manage their athletics department differently than Lee Fowler and NC State. After Herb Sendek finally reached the NCAA Tourament in his sixth year at NC State, Lee Fowler proclaimed multiple times that there was no way that a school can fire a coach after making the NCAA Tournament. Additionally, after Sendek was named ACC Coach of the Year three years ago, Fowler (and crew) made identical comments in the following years while Sendek struggled that “you can’t fire coaches of the year”.

Evidently Seton Hall can. Seems Seton Hall wants to do better than minimum-standard performance from a coach that wasn’t warm to the fans or the community. Hmmmm. Where have we heard that before?

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31 Responses to Seton Hall Fires Louis Orr

  1. WolfInVolCountry 03/24/2006 at 1:24 PM #

    A lesser program which pulls the trigger appropriately.

  2. Washington Wolf 03/24/2006 at 1:31 PM #

    Any chance of Sendek being considered for this job? Probably not. Because, cries of Team Sendek and the HSSS notwithstanding, Herb is not considered a good coach by other programs.

  3. VTPACKFAN 03/24/2006 at 1:34 PM #

    The New York/NJ recruiting roads he’s paved would have to put him on the list.

  4. BJD95 03/24/2006 at 1:47 PM #

    Fingers are definitely crossed on this one. It does fit with Sendek’s recruiting geography. Go, Herb, go!

  5. Gopack80 03/24/2006 at 1:54 PM #

    No chance of Herb getting this job. They fired Orr b/c they want to compete with UConn & Nova. That won’t happen if Herb is coach. They won’t go after him, and more importantly, won’t pay him the kind of money he is looking for.

  6. Clarksa 03/24/2006 at 1:58 PM #

    A lot of schools would like to have programs like UConn & Nova. Certainly Seton Hall can’t expect to compete with Duke and UNC…er…UConn & Nova?

  7. class of '74 03/24/2006 at 1:59 PM #

    As of this moment Herb couldn’t get a job offer to coach in the church leagues at the YMCA but we are darn proud to have him at NCSU!

  8. Jeff 03/24/2006 at 2:10 PM #

    How can Seton Hall be expected to compete against Syracuse & St John’s right there in NY?

  9. Clarksa 03/24/2006 at 2:40 PM #

    To bad we couldn’t just trade coaches…of course we’d probably have to give them cash considerations and a player to be named later.

  10. choppack 03/24/2006 at 2:42 PM #

    I’m really surprised at this. It will be interesting to follow. Are they bringing back PJ?

  11. Gopack80 03/24/2006 at 2:50 PM #

    I mean, what does Seton Hall expect? Sure they won the Big East in ’91 & ’93 and played for a National Title in ’89 and numerous regional finals around that time…but really, what do they expect? They can’t be expected to compete with the other Big East schools now.

  12. THE Only One 03/24/2006 at 3:28 PM #

    Gopack80, you may be right. Why should any school that hasn’t competed for a national title in 15 years even bother trying to recapture the glory? Besides, how can a private school with a New Jersey fanbase EVER hope to be any good?

  13. Rick 03/24/2006 at 3:35 PM #

    How can they expect to get another coach when they get rid of a “successful” one?

    Did they not read “Mediocracy for Dummies”? I think Fowler wrote the foreward on it (or maybe we should call it the standing still).

  14. ncsumatman 03/24/2006 at 3:36 PM #

    I just can’t believe that SH would fire a coach who was able to corral in a 10 seed. For the love of God, how much do you want this man to do? Walk on water? A 10 seed, 95% of schools would give their left nut to get a 10 seed. I hate those Orr haters.

  15. Cardiac95 03/24/2006 at 3:40 PM #

    I haven’t followed Seton Hall much, but I’m sure they gave Coach Orr the full 10 years to build his program & show his true capabilities.

  16. newswolf 03/24/2006 at 3:43 PM #

    Who in there right mind would want to coach at Seton Hall now?

  17. TampaPack 03/24/2006 at 3:57 PM #

    Per Doyle’s update today…. looks like they would rather have D’oh than Sendek, what a statement. Hopefully this list is because they think they have no shot at Sendek? Hopefully??? Please???

  18. TampaPack 03/24/2006 at 3:57 PM #

    ^ Oops, left our the article..

    Seton Hall: Multiple newspapers who cover the Pirates have issued opposing reports about Louis Orr’s situation, but we know — and in a few seconds, we’ll tell you — which faction is right. One group of papers is reporting that Seton Hall has offered Orr an extension with strings, telling him he can stay if he’ll shake up his staff. Another faction of media refutes that report, quoting Orr himself as saying he has not been offered an extension. We’re hearing that Orr is quibbling over words, that in fact it has been made clear to him that he will get an extension if he changes his staff. And that Orr, a stubborn and good and loyal man, won’t do that. As CBS first reported last week, the Hall’s wish list includes Hofstra’s Tom Pecora, Manhattan’s Bobby Gonzalez and Florida Atlantic’s Matt Doherty. Pitt assistant Barry Rohrssen might be in the mix, too. Our spies at Rutgers say the one coach Rutgers does not want to see at Seton Hall is Gonzalez, who was separated at birth from Knights coach Fred Hill.

  19. David 03/24/2006 at 4:00 PM #

    **** happens – maybe it’ll happen at State – not!
    Now I know why I left the WC several years ago.

  20. TVP 03/24/2006 at 4:27 PM #

    It’s just amazing how no one is interested in Herb. No one.

    Especially if it’s true that he has sent out feelers and thus people know he is interested in leaving.

    We are so screwed.

  21. BJD95 03/24/2006 at 4:30 PM #

    TVP – it really is depressing.

  22. Mike 03/24/2006 at 4:39 PM #

    As chancellor and AD at Seton Hall, I announce our new basketball coach, Mr. Herb Sendek. Yes, this is the man that we beat by over 20 points in his building. That’s OK, because he is a nice guy and he has been to 5 NCAA tournaments in a row, and Dickie V loves him. Please give a warm round of applause to our coach.

  23. Cardiff Giant 03/24/2006 at 5:19 PM #

    Dickie V loves Orr, too, he was on ESPN bitching about the firing within a couple of hours. He must be on retainer for the Mediocre Coaches of America PAC.

  24. Chip 03/24/2006 at 6:27 PM #

    Herb Sendek is like a million shares of ENRON stock.

  25. beowolf 03/24/2006 at 6:59 PM #

    Mike has reasons number 1-83 why Sendek isn’t going to be hired by a team that fired a coach after being picked a 10 seed in the NCAA and losing by 20.

    Although to be fair, they “only” beat us in our own gym by 18.

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