Evtimov: Sendek Supporters “Idiots”?

Here is a quote that I haven’t seen anywhere but here.

Sunday, March 19, 2006’s Charlotte Observer included a side panel for the “NCAA at Dallas” written by staff writer, David Scott. In the side panel, the Charlotte Observer included the following:

“I’m sorry, but I would have to call them an idiot”
* NC State’s Ilian Evtimov, referring to people who think the Wolfpack’s prorgam doesn’t beling with the elite in the ACC

I don’t know what Evtimov was trying to plant into the public consciousness, but the seed didn’t take root as I have seen nobody talking about this quote over the last couple of weeks. If the Charlotte Observer’s representation of the quote is correct, then I couldn’t agree ore with Ilian. Unfortunately, Evtimov’s feelings encounter significant resistance from his Head Coach and his biggest supporters.

Ilian’s comments are obviously NOT directed at the large majority of NC State fans that are exhausted with Herb Sendek’s failure to create elite success after ten years of:

* operating with some of the most luxurious resources in college basketball with

* a fan base that is so passionate that they sent 12,000 fans to an open practice on a week night after 9 consecutive years of failing to make an NCAA Tournament, and

* whom have ranked amongst the top 20 in national attendance almost every year since the RBC has been built

I don’t know a single a State fan who prays for a change that doesn’t think that NC State’s program should be elite. Isn’t that what all of the fuss is actually about? – A large group of Wolfpackers who want to have some kind crowning achievement on which to hang their hat? Wolfpackers who understand the difference of truly being good from manufacturing bloated overall records in an attempt to do nothing more than squeeze into the NCAA Tournament with no hope of real success? Wolfpackers who want to be elite against the status quo of ‘mediocretes’ who are fine twiddling their thumbs in oblivion?

Try having a conversation with the members of the HSSS who are not legally retarded. Try to get one of them to agree with you (and Ilian) about where NC State’s place is in college basketball. In between their whiny-ass excuse that refers to how “tough it is to compete against Carolina and Duke” you won’t hear anything about it.

You see, if they were to admit that NC State’s resouces and tradition should translate into an elite program should, then they would be admitting that Herb Sendek has failed at succeeding at NC State (since nobody in their right mind could confuse NC State for the elite of college basketball).

The acceptance of ‘good is more than good enough for NC State’s administration and a small portion of fans’ has recently been chronicled by both The News & Observer and The Charlotte Observer. Enjoy the links and don’t hesitate to keep those conversations rolling.

^Those articles really nail the crux of the data analysis — nobody argues that what Sendek has achieved at NC State is elite and the decision makers deeem Sendek’s accomplish more than good enough. It’s that simple. I wonder how these folks fell being indirectly called an idiot by the “Philip Rivers of the NC State Basketball program”.

I think that Ilian Evtimov hit the nail on the head, anyone who doesn’t believe NC State should be an elite program is an “idiot.” I just wish that he would have added that anyone who thinks that we are currently elite falls into that category as well.

POST-SCRIPT: As the conversation in the comments section of this entry indicate — it seems as though the Charlotte Observer may have really screwed up the interpretation and significantly mis-represented Evtimov’s comments. (Go figure. The Charlotte Observer completely miss the mark on something? Surely they do not wonder why they just got purchased?) This entry was based on what the Observer included in the paper on Sunday, March 19th. I can’t help it if people that get paid to be accurate fail in their responsibilities.

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35 Responses to Evtimov: Sendek Supporters “Idiots”?

  1. paul 03/29/2006 at 8:40 AM #

    nice job taking a comment out of context so as to render it completly devoid of its original intent.

  2. paul 03/29/2006 at 8:42 AM #

    for those who care (clearly nobody around here since it wouldn’t support their agenda), here’s what he actually said:

    “If anybody thinks that North Carolina State is not successful and thinks North Carolina State is not becoming a better program over the last few years, I’m sorry, but I would have to call them an idiot.”


  3. Wuf62 03/29/2006 at 8:45 AM #

    I reread that quote several times, and I don’t think Ilian fully understood the postulation. It has to be difficult to make coherent statements if one has been living that closely with Herb for five years. The housewife may complain to the husband that their dog has crapped on the dining room floor, but the husband appeases her by saying, “He also crapped all over the yard, in the garage and the basement. Before you continue your criticism, you must consider the ‘whole body of work’.”

  4. Mr O 03/29/2006 at 8:55 AM #

    Aren’t you taking it out of context?

  5. Jeff 03/29/2006 at 9:03 AM #

    Here is how the quote showed up in the Charlotte Observer from Sunday March 19, 2006 that I hold in my hand:

    “I’m sorry, but I would have to call them an idiot”
    * NC State’s Ilian Evtimov, referring to people who think the Wolfpack’s prorgam doesn’t beling with the elite in the ACC

    Perhaps David Scott took the quote out of context some.

    Again, I agree with Ilian if what he was meaning to say is that NC State’s program belongs in the elite.

    I disagree with Ilian if his judgement is that NC State should currently be judged as elite.

    Do any of you actually have a position on the topic?

  6. Mr O 03/29/2006 at 9:08 AM #

    There really isn’t anything to have a position on since Evtimov didn’t call Sendek supporters idiots.

    David Scott definitely took that quote out of context.

  7. Cardiff Giant 03/29/2006 at 9:09 AM #

    I think Ilian is the smartest former Bulgarian basketball player in the Atlantic Coast Conference.

  8. RedNYellow 03/29/2006 at 9:11 AM #

    It sounds like the question might have been phrased: “Based on the past five years of performance, would you consider NC State to be an elite program within the ACC?” I would have to answer no to this question. An elite team would have more to boast about than a 2nd place regular season finish.

  9. class of '74 03/29/2006 at 9:13 AM #

    I’m no friend of Herb but I saw the quote and other quotes following the game and I took from all of the quotes the guys supported Herb and the program as it is presently configured. I would not expect anything other than that. It’s very rare when you see members of a team torching the coach and program whether it’s deserved or not.

    Ilian has seen 5 years of basketball at NCSU and he has his perspective. I’ve seen 44 years of ACC basketball and I have my own perspective. Perspective plays a crucial part of the divide in our fanbase at this time.

  10. wrNCSU 03/29/2006 at 9:13 AM #

    Who cares what Evtimov thinks or says…he is the ultimate embodiment of Herb-ball. Slow, hits threes only when it doesn’t matter. Who else would want to play for the guy? Sports Illustrated took a poll and Herb was the coach that won in the category for “Who you would least like to play for” in the ACC. Enough said. Good riddance Evtimov…a nice guy, but not NCSU caliber.

  11. Jeff 03/29/2006 at 9:14 AM #

    Gang….I’ve updated the entry for more accuracy to explain how the Charlotte Observer represented the quote in the paper.

    Paul….thanks so much for sharing more specifics on the topic.

    As I look at this with more detail…it seems that the Charlotte Observer may have taken far too much liberty with interpretation of the quote.

    If Evtimov was proclaiming that NC State IS elite, then the poor guys has been brainwashed like the rest of the spin-club around NC State’s basketball program.

    MrO…so, you have no thoughts on what Ilian said? You only can generate thoughts in response to things that I say? Interesting.

  12. Mr O 03/29/2006 at 9:43 AM #

    Jeff: I remember the quote. It was in relation to how well NC State has done over his career and the critics of the program. I don’t remember the exact question, but I don’t think the word “elite” ever came up.

    Ilian also mentioned that before he got here that NC State hadn’t made the NCAA touranment in many years. He said that they have now gone for 5 straight years.

    I remember this thinking that I thought it was a real shame that a senior who has given 5 years to NC State basketball fans had to field questions like the ones being asked by reporters.

  13. Mr O 03/29/2006 at 9:45 AM #

    Jeff: Additionally, he was actually calling people who are critical of the program idiots. It had nothing to do with Sendek supporters or those that don’t criticize his performance in public.

  14. NCSU'79 03/29/2006 at 9:50 AM #

    Folwer’s response to Etimov……”Weeeee Doggies..he shore is good wit dem fancy words..wishin i was a good talker”

  15. Jeff 03/29/2006 at 9:53 AM #

    I remember this thinking that I thought it was a real shame that a senior who has given 5 years to NC State basketball fans had to field questions like the ones being asked by reporters

    I could not agree more with this.

    It is a shame that his coach has put his players in such a tough situation and that the AD has fostered such a combative environment with the fans.

    An absolute shame.

  16. class of '74 03/29/2006 at 10:06 AM #

    ^The shame was in not releasing Herb 5 years ago when it was first warranted!

  17. Cardiff Giant 03/29/2006 at 10:31 AM #

    Herb, where is thy sting?

  18. wopacker1980 03/29/2006 at 10:52 AM #

    Paul has the actual comment right. I read it out of the Daily Tarheel Southern Edition and thought that Ilian was being loyal and I guess compared to the ’90’s there definitely has been success but in the last 3 years, none.

  19. Jim 03/29/2006 at 11:11 AM #

    I don’t agree with Evtimov, but his words have been totally turned around somehow.

    Evtimov was calling Sendek critics idiots. In so many words: if you don’t see improvement in the program over the last few years you are an idiot.

    Somehow it has been completely turned to the opposite.

  20. Andy 03/29/2006 at 12:52 PM #

    “Sports Illustrated took a poll and Herb was the coach that won in the category for “Who you would least like to play forâ€? in the ACC.”

    The poll was of 1 player from most ACC schools, so probably around 4 guys said that. Also the Big East’s “Coach I’d least like to play for” was Jim Calhoun

  21. graywolf 03/29/2006 at 1:32 PM #

    I guess Im an idiot then in the eyes of IE, but I think its time to move up to the next level and that will not happen with Herb Sendek as coach at NC State.
    My greatest fear is that he will still be here in 15 years and end his career at NC State and no one will be left to remember the glory years.

  22. Rick 03/29/2006 at 1:51 PM #

    “Jeff: Additionally, he was actually calling people who are critical of the program idiots”

    I think this is what he was saying and he should have kept his mouth shut. It is bad enough when the AD and coach are derogatory towards the fans but when the players start something has to change.

  23. R Cowan 03/29/2006 at 2:19 PM #

    Trying to make something out of nothing causes me to take pause ….. about your credibility. I usually like what you print here, but this is reaching a little far.

  24. Kingfish 03/29/2006 at 2:19 PM #


    That was hiliarious!!!

  25. wolfvols 03/29/2006 at 3:40 PM #

    Sounds like Braun at Cal is having some issues…just like Herb.

    Read this article and substitute “Sendek” for “Braun” and “North Carolina” for “Stanford”


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