POD Analysis

The NCAA changed the opening round of the tournament by instituting a “pod” system several years ago to replace the standard regional format. Eight first- and second-round sites are distributed around the four regionals. Teams are assigned to first- and second-round sites so as to limit the early-round travel of as many teams as possible. Half of the teams in a pod advance into separate regional tournaments.

Don’t let the fact that I copied and pasted the preceding paragraph fool you into thinking that I have any clue what it means in general…or specifically to State. However, thanks to ADS95, I know more now than I did before the day started. Here is his analysis re-posted from the comments section of an earlier entry:

The 8 pods this year are:

Greensboro, NC; Greensboro Coliseum
Jacksonville, FL; Veterans Memorial Coliseum
San Diego, CA; Cox Arena
Salt Lake City, UT; Huntsman Center
Dallas, TX; American Airlines Arena
Dayton, OH; Dayton Arena
Detroit, MI; Palace of Auburn Hills
Philadelphia, PA; First Union Spectrum

Given that, I’d say that we need to be a 3 seed or at least leapfrog a couple of squads. While that may sound unreasonabe given our proximity to Greensboro, remember that last season, even a 3 seed would not have landed NC State in Charlotte since Duke and Carolina were both there with 1 and 2 seeds.

For argument’s sake, lets assume today we are the last 4 seed and look at the top 15 RPI teams (as of today) that should get located preferentially to us, and you will see why it doesn’t fit to put us in Greensboro.

Its pretty safe to predict that Duke will be in Greensboro. That leaves one open slot there.

Philadelphia looks booked to me: UConn and Villanova at 1 or 2 seeds.

Oddly enough, Memphis is geographically closer to Dallas than any of the east coast pod slots. So we will put them out there. Texas gets the other Dallas slot, which leaves Oklahoma a little miffed, but so be it. We’ll assume LSU goes to Jacksonville.

That leaves two slots in Dayton, two in Detroit, and one in Greensboro for Tennessee, Pittsburgh, Ohio State, Iowa, Michigan State, Illinois, and NC State.

Going in order, Tennesee is geographically closest to Greensboro (283 mi), but Dayton is not much further (303 mi) so we will put them there.

Pittsburgh is closer to either Dayton (260 mi) or Detroit (280 mi) than Greensboro (430 mi), so we will put them in Detroit.

Ohio State is 75 miles from Dayton. They go there.

Iowa City isn’t close to any pod, frankly. Dayton is the closest at 480 miles. My hope with them is that they get sent somplace warm instead of someplace close, so they go to Jacksonville or San Diego.

Michigan State would be a logical lock for Detroit, which books it up. They are currently 11th in the RPI, so we’d call that the third 3 seed.

Here’s where it gets interesting, and why I think we’d need that final 3 seed in order to get Greensboro.

Illinois is 235 miles from Dayton and 388 miles from Detroit. Neither is particularly close…but they are the defending NCAA runner-ups. What would be the easiest for the committee would be to place Tennesee in Greensboro and them in Dayton and putting us some place else. Unless our very close proximity to Greensboro is taken into consideration, we don’t get there as the last 4 seed. We need to get seeded ahead of Illinois at a minimum.

Since we are #21 in the RPI today, we need to leapfrog West Virginia and perhaps Northern Iowa as well, although as a mid-major they could get dropped a seed or two lower than their RPI.

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8 Responses to POD Analysis

  1. JSIMON 02/13/2006 at 10:55 PM #

    If we can play our way into a three seed — as you point out we’re close now but could secure that with a few more wins (guarantee it w/ wins over BC and UNC) — then I think our biggest challenge for the spot in Greensboro will probably be West Virginia.

  2. class of '74 02/14/2006 at 6:22 AM #

    I’d rather have favorable matchups than proximity. The old V-ism “it’s who you play and where you play’em”.

  3. WTNY 02/14/2006 at 8:22 AM #

    Thanks for the post but right now thinking State will be a 3 or even 4 seed is a pipe dream. Unless something changes and the GW-playing Pack appears, we won’t even sniff a 4 seed.

  4. VaWolf82 02/14/2006 at 9:34 AM #

    State isn’t being seeded today. In the upcoming games, we wil see more of the same…or something better…or something worse. As I read it, this look at the POD’s was not intended to be a projection…just simply a look at the competition for a spot in G’boro.

  5. choppack 02/14/2006 at 10:25 AM #

    Yep – I think we need to 4-1 in our remaining games to get GSO pod.

  6. packbackers 02/14/2006 at 10:52 PM #

    Speaking of West Virginia, they just lost to Seton Hall. That’ll help our cause!

  7. Sammy Kent 02/15/2006 at 10:43 AM #

    I don’t think the pods are required to have one each of the #1, #2, #3, and #4 seeds. In other words, if it works out geographically better, a pod could have two #1/#4 brackets or two #2/#3 brackets playing there. Is that not the case? If so, and we were a fourth seed, we could still end up in Greensboro even if Dook is a #1 seed. We would just be in another regional, say the one with Memphis for example as a #1. This makes sense to me because I think it’s likely that both Villanova and UConn will be #1 seeds and both be assigned the Philadelphia pod.

  8. ADS95 02/15/2006 at 10:42 PM #

    Sammy, you are correct – not all of the pods need to have a 1, 2, 3, and 4 seed. If they did, I think that would actually help our chances of playing in Greensboro…

    Anything lower than a 4 seed and there is NO way we play in Greensboro, since it would mean playing a higher seed in the second round on a court much closer to our fans than theirs.

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