Georgia Tech Is Really Angry About Bowl Selection

You neve hear ACC AD’s say to many things that are controversial. For the most part, they toe the university and the ACC company line. Georgia Tech’s Dave Braine is really upset. Here is an article from Doug Doughty of The Roanoke Times.

“When you have a 7-4 record, which is better than Virginia’s, and when you have a 5-3 conference record, which is better than Virginia’s, you shouldn’t have to buy a game,” Braine, the Georgia Tech athletic director, told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

The ACC makes ticket guarantees but doesn’t like its schools to do so individually.

“So what!” Braine said. “They’re supposed to protect everybody, too.”

People can cry,” Braine said. “BC and us are probably the two people who feel we should be someplace else.”

Boston College tied for first in the ACC’s Atlantic Division and finished 8-3, but the Eagles fell to the MPC Computers Bowl in Boise, Idaho. Five other ACC teams were picked ahead of the Eagles, including a 6-5 North Carolina State team.

“If I’m complaining about us, how do you think [BC athletic director] Gene DeFilippo feels right now?” Braine said. “If he were still in the Big East, where would he be? He’d be in the Gator Bowl.”

“Up till [Virginia] Tech lost Saturday night, we were locked into the Peach Bowl,” Braine said.

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17 Responses to Georgia Tech Is Really Angry About Bowl Selection

  1. Alpha Wolf 12/08/2005 at 10:14 AM #

    Braine needs to get over himself…really.

    Georgia Tech was hosed, no doubt about it, but they were hosed because they were outmarketed by Virginia, pure and simple. Remember only a week or so ago, there were messages swirling on the boards that UVA was bombarding the Music City Bowl folks with e-mail messages, and then their athletic department joined in and put their muscle behind the effort. GT? They did very little other than snivel about their record making them more deserving.

    My letter to the GT AD:

    Dave, here’s some news for you, since you apparently missed the memo: bowls are about ticket sales and invitations go out to the team most likely to bring the most people. The Gator Bowl passed over Maryland and Virginia in 2002 because they knew that a 4th place team in NC State would bring more fans than the Terps and the Hoos. It’s done all the time, and Dave, you simply didn’t market your school well enough.

    So, Dave what are you going to do? Leave the ACC? Good. Write us that fourteen million dollar check and don’t let the door hit you where the good lord split you. Have fun in the Big East. We’ll find another team to take your place. UCONN would be a good fit, or Penn State, if they can be convinced to change conferences. For that matter, so would Kentucky. The ACC is the best conference in the country, period, so you are not going to do any better.

    What you can do better, Dave, is a better job of selling your school to bowls. if by chance you ever qualify for an at-large BCS berth, you may end up just like Oregon did last week…unless you do a better job.

  2. Trout 12/08/2005 at 10:19 AM #

    “If I’m complaining about us, how do you think [BC athletic director] Gene DeFilippo feels right now?� Braine said. “If he were still in the Big East, where would he be? He’d be in the Gator Bowl.�

    He’d also be about $5-8 million dollars poorer each year as well.

  3. Cardiac95 12/08/2005 at 10:40 AM #

    #1) Comparing conference records in the new ACC is a complete & total farce. There is no relativity now because the schedules are unbalanced. Is a 4-4 record with a win over Duke better than a 3-5 record without Duke on the schedule? I don’t think so.

    #2) Braine was a leading player in ACC Expansion. Without ACC Expansion, Ga Tech probably plays in the Peach, with Clemson going to the Gator.

    Now with Miami, Va Tech, & BC added to the mix of eligible bowl teams, Ga Tech getting shipped to the West Coast.

    Mr. Braine……welcome to the new ACC!!!

  4. lumberpack 12/08/2005 at 10:45 AM #

    Braine has had an interesting year. How did he manage to skate through the lack of institutional control with all those ineligible players? He has to show his ass on behalf of GT now otherwise folks in Atlanta might think he’s not doing his job. 🙂

  5. Alpha Wolf 12/08/2005 at 11:24 AM #

    I always heard done there that if GT were ever put on probation that the AD and the offending coach would be fired.

    ….tapping feet…..


    I guess those high falutin’ words were just hot air.

  6. choppack 12/08/2005 at 1:12 PM #

    Good point on the probation. It also doesn’t help them that they don’t sell out their own stadium on a regular basis.

  7. Rick Jernigan 12/08/2005 at 2:32 PM #

    Does anybody have an inkling to how the ACC will react to this issue? Could they extend the “2 game” better record in place for the Gator & Peach to the rest of the bowls? The bowls are going to have a problem with anything along these lines but I expect the ACC office will want to do something, even if it is window-dressing, to placate BC & GTech.

  8. VaWolf82 12/08/2005 at 2:59 PM #

    Does anybody have an inkling to how the ACC will react to this issue?

    Well, we all know that what the conference office wants and what the bowls want are two different things. What we don’t know is how much (if any) the bowls are going to give.

    There may be room for compromise if you added some provision that let bowls take some exceptions from time to time. For example, don’t force the bowls to take the same team two years in a row or maybe more than two times in five years. Maybe Charlotte could get exceptions allowing them to get Clemson, UNC, or NCSU if they are available.

    Intelligent people working together can usually find a solution that is fair to all parties involved. I don’t know if that applies to the conference office and the bowl committees or not.

  9. choppack 12/08/2005 at 4:09 PM #

    VaWolf – it would also be helpful if Swofford allowed a smaller payout for taking certain teams….

  10. VaWolf82 12/08/2005 at 4:46 PM #

    We need emoticons on this board bad. Swofford giving money back deserves a ROTFLMAO.

    However, hasn’t the ACC office bought tickets to bowl games before? If I remembered that correctly, then that is basically the same thing as taking a smaller payout. A guaranteed number of ticket sales (or taking a smaller payout) would entice the bowls to some contract changes.

    However, how is Johnny going to sell that one to the other 10 or 11 schools in the ACC…….We all have to take a little less money so that we can let BC (or GT) go to a better bowl. I’m thinking that AD’s that have budgets to balance might be as interested in cash flow as the bowl committees.

  11. VaWolf82 12/08/2005 at 4:48 PM #

    Speaking of cash and bowl committees…..Do bowls actually make money or are they designed to break even? Are they actually run by civic committees looking to bring tourism into an area or is someone getting rich from the bowls?

  12. choppack 12/08/2005 at 5:08 PM #

    VaWolf – Yep, that comment was made halfway in jest, but essentially, that’s Swofford was asking the bowls to do in certain situations. GaTech has a better case – I think they ultimately may have brought as many fans as UVa – but I may be wrong.

    I think a lot of the Bowls thing is the tourism thing. One thing about the businesses, they make $$. I don’t know how many people would ulimately be at the marriot the night before the bowl game, but we can be asssued it will double due to the game.

  13. Herb 12/09/2005 at 8:26 AM #

    I’m not sure about the other bowls, but the Car Care bowl is owned and operated by Raycom Sports (, a sports marketing, event management, and production firm. They are also the rightsholder of ACC men’s basketball and syndicated football telecasts in partnership with Jefferson-Pilot sports and operate a couple of LPGA tournaments. Raycom Sports is a subsidiary of Raycom Media, which owns and operates a number of television stations. So, as a privately held company, they are obviously out to make a buck. I’m sure they have all sorts of kickback-type arrangements with hotels and maybe even the city of Charlotte as well.

  14. Jeff 12/09/2005 at 9:23 AM #

    Kickbacks? Do what?

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