2005 Sweet 16 Coaching Comparison

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Below, you will find a comparative analysis that I have done regarding the programs and coaches that participated in this year’s Sweet 16. (This was my best effort and I do not swear that this is mistake-free).

For the time being, I abstaining from making any introductory or concluding remarks about this information because I would like to hear/see your thoughts.

I welcome and encourage you to share any comments &/or conclusions in the “Comments” section of this entry. If you are viewing this entry from a non-NC State perspective, please feel free to share your allegiance. Thanks!

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6 Responses to 2005 Sweet 16 Coaching Comparison

  1. JL 04/01/2005 at 12:08 PM #

    I’m a Carolina fan and UNC-W graduate.

    At a very quick glance, it just reinforces some of our conversations that it is taking Herb entirely too long to put together a respectable and productive program.

    In 9 years, State has had only 1 appearance in the Sweet 16? Tom Izzo has been at MSU 1 year longer, and has had 5 more appearances, doesn’t add up, esp. taking into consideration that for the longest time, NCSU had a better name recognition, both from the school standpoint and also from the fact that they were in a very prestigious conference, so recruiting should have been easier for Herb.

    Again, very quick observation.

  2. BJD95 04/04/2005 at 8:40 AM #

    Very interesting – the Utah coach should probably quit while he’s ahead. If Sendek remains the coach here, it will be very interesting to see what he does without the star power of Julius Hodge. It took so long for Sendek to get to the Sweet Sixteen, and without much relevant data to compare to (most coaches never would still be in their position at a major conference school given such a slow track), it’s hard to know what to expect.

  3. JL 04/04/2005 at 9:03 AM #

    Over the past several weeks, I’ve picked up on the theme that Fowler should be the one that is fired and not Herb. This is something that that I don’t completely understand.

    I have coached high school basketball teams and never once, did the AD come down to practice and teach the guys how to set a pick and then roll to the basket, or dive for a loose ball, or run a motion offense.

    I was fortunate that while living in Wilmington I would attend State football games. On numerous occasions basketball recruits would tailgate with us. But not once did I ever hear a recruit comment on how the AD did his job or how he put together the schedule for the next year. But they did mention how they didn’t like an offense that the coach would run, or that they doubted that they would get enough playing time at State, as oppose to what they would get at Carolina (Jeff McInnis).

    I agree that the AD can create a lot of problems, no question. And I will also agree that comments that Fowler has made in the past have caused problems with the fans, which has created a division. But ultimately, the coach has to be responsible for their record and the performance on the court of the players.

    So, when I see that a coach has made it to the Field of 64/65 only 4 times in 9 years & that has posted a winning record against only 4 of 11 ACC Schools (4 of 12 if you count his 0-2 record against Boston College), then I have a hard time pointing the finger at the AD.

  4. Stuart Lail 05/18/2005 at 10:07 PM #

    I am pleased with the direction the program is headed. If Herb does not finish in the top 4 of the ACC in 2006, then it is a bad season. I think he will make a trip back to the sweet 16 (at least) again next year…if not bad season. At the end of the day, I am tired of the %&$*$*$# going on by the fans. Our job is to support the team – do it! All I hear is ‘Fire Herb’. Okay, fire him. However I would like 1 person to give me 5 possible names to replace him. 5 people who will be able to recruit and stand up to K & Roy like everyone wants. Don’t mention Pitino – 1 – he raises race horses and will not leave Kentucky – 2 – He told us to hire Herb. Bobby Knight – a political nightmare. I have heard Rick Barnes is interested – so I will give you all 1 name….go figure out the other 4….and BTW, do a comparison as you have above of all the names you come up with to see the individual rankings.

  5. st0rmin 11/23/2005 at 8:58 AM #

    I am not saying fire Herb by any means. As far as competing with Roy and K, you damn right we should. 5 wins against UNC in 9 years is unacceptable. Will we get more in the next nine? Remember, Herb has gone against Dean, Guthridge, Matt, and Roy. 3 wins against Duke is unacceptable. You don’t build a $100,000 house in a $1,000,000 neighborhood. If you don’t rise to the challenge, move out of the neighborhood. Does anyone remember why Frank McGuire was hired at UNC? Now, with respect to who are our peers and our frustrations of not being there. I am not saying be a Duke or UNC right now. I would settle for a W. Va, George Washington, Wake, Maryland, Gonzaga, Villanova, BC, Memphis, Iowa, Nevada, Washington – all ranked ahead us in the AP Poll this week. On another note, when is the last time we have played in a worthy early season tournament (NIT, Maui, Alaskan – no the BCA and Hispanic things don’t count). Finally, I repeat that I don’t want Herb fired; however, I think NCSU fans (many) under sell our school, conference, and tradition. We would have a ton of coaches desiring our job. Can I name them? No!

  6. Kenneth 12/01/2005 at 7:52 AM #

    Last nights game against Iowa was one of the most embarrasing games I have ever watched. NC States offense consisted of one player taking the pass and either taking a three pointer or driving to the hoop. It is clear to anyone who knows anything about basketball that Herb doesn’t have a clue what he’s doing. There are some real studs on this team and they are being wasted(just like Hodge) in this stupid offense. Herb needs to GO!!!

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