ANOTHER ‘mis-truth’ rears its head in NCAA’s investigation of UNC Football (Updated 10:20)

Greg Little’s father claims Little only went on a trip to Miami in March. Oops. Make that May as well.

UNC proclaims multiple times that the NCAA has mandated they not speak about the investigation. Oops. The NCAA says this is not true – even if they had the legal authority to issue a gag order, which they do not.

A high school recruit clearly tells a local newspaper that Butch Davis told him that UNC isn’t going to miss any bowl games or get in any trouble with the NCAA. Oops. The recruit then mysteriously makes an appearance to say that it was completely different coach that fed him that story.

The NCAA states that former UNC-CH football player and current NCAA investigator, Marcus Wilson, will not be involved with the NCAA’s investigation of his alma mater. No way…really? Another one?

A lot of Wolfpackers have been wondering what the hell has been going on with the NCAA’s investigation of North Carolina’s football program…particularly after a key figure in the improper benefits scandal, Kentwan Balmer, told the Associated Press this weekend that the NCAA has not contacted him about the investigation yet.

Add another stubbing of the toe to the NCAA’s week —

First, you need to re-acquaint yourself with Marcus Wilson. (Click here). (Go ahead. Take your time reading the link. We’ll still be here when you are done.)

Wilson is the former UNC-CH football player and big time Tarheel fan that is currently the NCAA’s Assistant Director of Agent, Gambling and Amateurism Activities. Shortly after we first called your attention to Wilson the NCAA issued a statement proclaiming that he was not involved in UNC’s investigation. Despite that proclamation, some of our readers shared some prescient insight and perspective at the time:

while he has recused himself from the unc-ch portion, he is one of the investigators that is investigating other schools, like Georgia, and players supposedly involved in the same Miami parties. So he is involved in a sideways sort of way.

And being one of the 7 investigators and a an assistand director, how could he not have some influence?

if he were to uncover relevant information while investigating Georgia or other players, how motivated would he be to pursue ‘on the margin’ info if it negatively impacted the program where he played?

That is the important question — If Wilson is allowed to remain on the investigation in any capacity, he has not recused himself at all. The ability to bury damaging information gleaned from other universities under investigation could help unc. This still stinks unless he is completely removed, and in my opinion, reassigned for the duration of the investigation.

With ^this as your backdrop, I call your attention to tonight’s blog entry by Joe Giglio of the News & Observer (evidently the only real journalist left in America).

An NCAA investigator asked South Carolina tight end Weslye Saunders about his friendship with University of North Carolina senior defensive tackle Marvin Austin, his online interaction with Austin via the social media site Twitter and a trip to Washington, D.C., according to Saunders’ father.

Barry Saunders, a metro columnist for The News & Observer, said Wednesday that Marcus Wilson, the NCAA’s assistant director in charge of agents’ activities, interviewed his son twice this summer.

Wilson, a former UNC football player, is one of seven members of the NCAA’s enforcement staff who work in the area of Agent, Gambling and Amateur Activities.

The NCAA also visited Chapel Hill this summer to interview North Carolina football players – including Austin – as part of an investigation into allegations of impermissible contact with sports agents. NCAA spokeswoman Stacey Osburn declined to comment on Wilson’s interviews with Saunders but said Wednesday that Wilson is not involved in “an UNC investigation.”

“The NCAA does not comment on current, pending or potential investigations – including which staff members may be investigating them,” Osburn wrote in an e-mail response to the N&O.

Osburn also cited an NCAA conflict of interest policy that would prohibit Wilson’s potential involvement with the investigation at UNC.

According to the text provided by the NCAA:

“Any enforcement staff member who has or had a personal relationship or institutional affiliation that reasonably would result in the appearance of prejudice should refrain from participating in any manner in the processing of the involved institution’s or individual’s infractions case.”

Rachel Newman Baker and Chance Miller were the two NCAA investigaors who interviewed an undisclosed number of UNC players on July 12 and July 13, according to a public records request by The N&O.

The N&O has confirmed that Austin and receiver Greg Little were two of the players interviewed. Little’s father said last month that Little was asked about potential improper contact with an agent. Both Austin and Little, regular starters for the past three seasons, have been practicing with the Tar Heels’ second-team units while UNC prepares for its Sept. 4 opener against LSU.

Wilson was a reserve offensive lineman at UNC for three seasons from 2000 to 2002. In addition to Saunders, Wilson interviewed Georgia receiver A.J. Green earlier this summer, according to The Associated Press.

Saunders, who’s from Durham, was interviewed in July and again on Aug. 10, his father said. Weslye Saunders also provided bank records and phone records for the NCAA, according to Barry Saunders. The same information was requested of the UNC players, according to a public record request.

Ya don’t say?

Of course it makes all the sense in the world for an NCAA investigator to question the upstanding young Saunders about his close friend, Marvin Austin. But, what doesn’t make sense is that MARCUS WILSON would be the NCAA investigator asking the questions of Saunders!?!?!

Marvin Austin and Weslye Saunders are so connected that nobody with an IQ north of 80 could imagine that segmenting the investigation of one from the other.

  • particularly after the two were told to cut off all communication after this story broke in July
  • Particularly after the rumors that the two were actively comparing notes on what kind of money and packages that agents were offering the other
  • particularly after they obviously took trips together as evidenced by this picture (left) of Saunders taken & Tweeted by Austin on April 24th of this year in what sure looks to be a hotel room apparently in Austin’s hometown of Washington, D.C.

Have any final doubts about how close these two are/have been throughout all of this? Check out this tweet archived on the internet that has previously been referenced in other stories:

On Saturday 19th June 2010, @ANCHORMANAUSTIN said:

“Good idea!!! RT @WesSaunders88: I’m bout to delete my Twitter account. I dont wanna sound paranoid…but im pretty sure people are following me”

In some parallel universe, it makes sense for a former UNC-CH football player to be this intimately involved involved in this investigation. And, in that universe the NCAA is known as a rationale, efficient, consistent and competent organization.

God bless these kids if they dared sell any of their shoes or misused their free tickets.

Somewhere, Barry Saunders is praying for a Duke lacrosse player to get arrested for jaywalking tonight.

AquaGirl

Good night. (Link to message forums. Link to Twitter presence. Link to FaceBook page.)

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17 Responses to ANOTHER ‘mis-truth’ rears its head in NCAA’s investigation of UNC Football (Updated 10:20)

  1. Clarksa 08/25/2010 at 8:37 PM #

    Let’s not miss Barry’s little gem here…

    Barry Saunders said his son is ready to hear from the NCAA about its investigation and move forward with his life.

    “There’s a cloud hanging over these kids’ heads for months, allowing them to be vilified in the media, so even when they’re eventually exonerated, the perception that they did something wrong will linger,” Saunders said. “I know my son hasn’t taken anything from any agent, so I wish they’d leave him alone so he can concentrate on school and football, in that order.”

  2. StateFans 08/25/2010 at 9:05 PM #

    Barry Saunders talking about people being vilified in the media.

    I would laugh out loud if I could stop crying.

    God in heaven evidently does have a sense of humor.

    Unbelievable.

  3. 61Packer 08/25/2010 at 9:11 PM #

    UNC football, Barry Saunders and Bill Clinton. You really piled it on in this great article!

  4. wolfonthehill 08/25/2010 at 9:19 PM #

    Barry’s assertions are laughable. While his statement that Weslye “hasn’t taken anything from any agent” may technically be true, his son has had extensive contact with multiple agents, to the point that Weslye knows the short list of NFL teams where we could eventually play (that’s right, before he even suits up for USC this season).

    The fact that Weslye hasn’t been paid by an agent doesn’t mean that agents aren’t actively working on his behalf… they are, and either papa’s clueless or intentionally deceptive.

  5. john of sparta 08/25/2010 at 9:19 PM #

    could Barry’s Baby be believable?
    didn’t think so, just like the N&O.

  6. Alpha Wolf 08/25/2010 at 9:30 PM #

    For any fans of other schools who do not follow the tickets and shoes reference:

    http://www.nytimes.com/1989/12/13/sports/nc-state-is-placed-on-probation-for-2-years.html

  7. McCallum 08/25/2010 at 10:03 PM #

    Christmas just keeps coming earlier and earlier.

    McCallum

  8. bleedingred08 08/25/2010 at 11:30 PM #

    Speaking of tickets and shoes, I know I am behind the times,born after ’83, but I just finished reading Coach V’s book. It is a joke how some Carolina fans believe they are getting a raw deal on this investigation. The Poole Commission and the SBI were completely unnecessary and unwarranted for our investigation . On top of all that, I now truly despise the N&O and Dr. Larry K. Monteith.

  9. PackerInRussia 08/26/2010 at 3:47 AM #

    On Saturday 19th June 2010, @ANCHORMANAUSTIN sai
    “Good idea!!! RT @WesSaunders88: I’m bout to delete my Twitter account. I dont wanna sound paranoid…but im pretty sure people are following me”

    I thought that was the point of Twitter. Apparently Anchorman must have thought Twitter was just another form of personal communication with another person. I guess that whole “followers” bit at the top of the twitter page eventually raised his curiosity. But, all kidding aside (I think), if you were concerned about people “following” you, why would you then use that same form of communication to indicate it?

  10. StateFans 08/26/2010 at 7:36 AM #

    To be clear…Saunders posted those comments on his Twitter and Austin responded with “Good idea”

  11. blpack 08/26/2010 at 8:03 AM #

    The always faint smell coming from CH has been more like a land fill this summer.

  12. Icabod61 08/26/2010 at 8:29 AM #

    bleedingred08, the mention of monteith’s name sends my blood pressure up. be glad you weren’t around to witness it all in person. it’s difficult to describe the “witch hunt” conducted and the burning at the stake that followed. gotta’ stop there before i have to go on meds…..

  13. highstick 08/26/2010 at 9:49 AM #

    C D Spangler’s name not only raises my blood pressure, but it starts to boil!

    If any of you guys have not read the book they are referring to, you need to! And you won’t ever have to take any crap from a Tarhole again!

  14. Alpha Wolf 08/26/2010 at 12:41 PM #

    ^ that and read “Personal Fouls.” I say that not to endorse that load of crap that Golenbach wrote, but instead so you have an idea of just how many errors, how much BS and how much axe-grinding there was from a student manager and a disgruntled player there was.

    That book started the whole mess, and it should be studied in law schools as how to get away with libel and slander.

  15. bradleyb123 08/26/2010 at 12:43 PM #

    I wonder if the NCAA considers closing their Twitter accounts to be a sign of trying to hide something. If this were a legal investigation, it might be considered obstruction of justice or destroying evidence.

  16. packplantpath 08/26/2010 at 12:56 PM #

    Nah, this is the legal equivalent of invoking the right to remain silent. Deleting the account doesn’t destroy the evidence, since it is still out there. Now, Austin and Saunders probably didn’t know that, but it still is true.

  17. highstick 08/26/2010 at 1:01 PM #

    Ditto on “Personal Fouls”. I had read that years ago but could see through most of the BS, but V’s book really pulled it together. I never have been able to find the other book by V’s brother to read. Guess I need to break down and find it online.

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