UPDATE: Per Rodney Purvis and Jordan Vandenburg, the chant toward Lewis actually happened.

• @JPV14Wolfpack: Who chants about someone's recently deceased grandmother, thats crossing the line.
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  That's awful. RT @rpurvis_0: Duke fans are some disrespectful clowns. Who chants about a kids grandmother who passed away recently?

There are plenty of other things they could chant at the little guy; leave it to the Puke students to choose the worst option. I remember thinking, "What are they chanting," when Tyler was on the line at one point in the second half. It was not discernible to me via telecast.

The "Nervous Purvis" chants were crystal clear, though. Poor fella had a rough game.

Hope the Wee Baby Seamus has a little of the ol' Lorenzo (Charles, that is) in him. After the pizza box incident in Cameron, he made it his mission to go on a tear against Duke every time he faced them after that. I remember after one game, either Bilas or Alarie saying they were hanging on his arms trying to stop him and still couldn't.

Use it as fuel young Lewis.

Doesn't surprise me. I expect evil from Duke students and grads.

Some of the media is also confirming that was the chant at one point but downplaying as "only a few". I don't give a flying F## how many it was, that demands a public apology from K or someone else at Duke. I have no idea why anyone has ever thought the 'cameron crazies" were cute or anything else. Nothing but a bunch of spoiled, little punk rich kids. Like was mentioned, I hope Lewis uses that and goes off on their ass every game from here on out.

Here is a video of it. Sure sounds like "How's your grandma?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ9O2KOwjOk

Completely classless, Cameron Crazies.

Totally agree about how classless and tasteless the Dukies are. The LC pizza box is one thing....LC made a bad choice. Using your grandmother's death as a "sixth man" tactic goes beyond any known moral boundary.

Obviously the Dukies are now my shining example of EELS (Enlightened Elitist Liberalism Syndrome). Forget who it was that added an "H". It can also be for Hyper.

I will make a social and not political comment here. I got my BS in 1968. I lived through the curfews on campus and in Raleigh during the Dr. King assassination. I also had friends that were in the National Guard and were activated and given ammunition and were patrolling at night and running check points and protecting firemen from snipers when buildings were firebombed so that the firemen would come.

I have a friend who still tells (and she makes Hillary Clinton look like a right wing nut) the tale of living in Chapel Hill and having a 1 1/2 year old daughter (I am the god father) and going out to get food during the lockdown and absent mindedly taking a shortcut back home through a portion of town that was mostly minority and being stopped by a gang of young men carrying Molotov cocktails and one of them looking in the car and seeing the baby and motioning for the rest to let her pass.

This was the atmosphere. If you were not here, you can not know how chilling or frightening it was.

Finally, on Sunday, things calmed down abit and the curfew was lifted and the National Guard troops were allowed to go home. Most were pulling 20 hour shifts. Right before they were released, the Duke Students decided "Not to let a good tragedy go to waste to foster their agenda". They occupied the Presidents yard or surrounded his house. They yelled and screamed and carried signs.....they wanted a raise in pay for the Afro American housekeeping staff (100% or almost that). It was really tense and the Duke Keystone Kops were powerless or maybe gutless. There were STILL major issues in Durham and the Durham PD was just as tired and strung out as most law enforcment agencies were and still were patrolling places trying to keep peace and prevent violence. SO, the Durham cops had a squad (or whatever you call it - maybe 50 or so) of the National Guard RE-ACTIVATED....they were actually on their way HOME. But, their commander was still pretty savvy. He had all their ammunition confiscated as he felt that as tired as they were and as exhausted, that having to go and disperse a bunch of rich brats with live ammo in their clips (M-14's back then - 7.62 NATO) and the clips in the rifles COULD lead to another Kent State. This is NOT myth. I talked to these guys on Monday in class. The Dukies went home for a beer bash, I guess and the NG went home.

That is the history of this bunch....so why should last night's little demonstration of their brattiness be any different. You can have a king's ransome as your fortune, but that does not guarantee that you have any class. Sort of fits a lot of politicans today.....primarily of one persuasion, but it does impact the other side - more than I would like to admit.

Duke fans and Duke basketball are pieces of shit that should be removed from society like any termite or cockroach.

Classless PUKE

I like how Howell gets in their huddle after the foul.

If anyone in Cameron chanted this last night, let me be the first Duke fan to apologize. Although I did not attend the game (I had a prior commitment) my friends and family that did attend, did not hear these things. I’m sure, however, if just a few idiots were saying it you might not have been able to hear it upstairs. I have been to several hundred games in Cameron and I can say that I have never heard students say/chant/write anything inappropriate that wasn’t immediately handled by the University/Team. I’ve seen Coach K, for example grab the announcer’s mike and verbally reprimand the student body for comments much more tame than this. I hope this was a misunderstanding. If not, however, I apologize again and hope they find the culprits and publicly humiliate them. Go Pack! Until we meet again at least. - WMF

^I got similar feedback from an associate who was at the game. He heard it, but only because he happened to be near the people who were shouting it. He says it was an isolated group of idiots. A little unfair to call it a "chant", which at least in my mind implies a large number of people participating. I've heard isolated idiots with NCSU gear say things I didn't like, although I must admit this is pretty near the top for classless.

Regardless of the actual number of participants, I have to agree this is incredibly classless.

You don't happen to know where your friend was sitting do you? I'm a little curious as to where these stupid comments originated. I'm assuming undergrad section.

This is being discussed on Sports radio in Houston. Nice black eye for the DOOOOOkies

You could hear it clearly on the television feed. It was in the last couple of minutes when tyler was at the line when I noticed it. I wouldn't expect anything different from entitled trustafarian duke fans.

It was anything but isolated. You can you tube it and hear it clearly.

Article about it on Sporting News: "Did Duke student section mock Tyler Lewis' grandma? You judge"

It gives differing reports from those who were there including "Nolan Evans, a deputy sports editor with NC State's newspaper" (he says they didn't)

I, for one, appreciate the apology.

There's a thread around here somewhere about the Duke mutt who felt insulted by the Miami student body/administration. She spoke of how her fellow Cameronians would never stoop so low. Well, I wonder how she feels about this. C'mon girl, either write your editor in disgust or else be proven a hypocrite.

Apologies are great, sure. It wasn't me, or us, who were being mocked. They should be directed towards Tyler, and I suppose by now he's heard enough from the mouths of Devils fans.

Ok, guys, I've listened to the Youtube clip, but damned if I can make out what they're saying.

FWIW one of the walkons also heard the chant and confirmed it. It's pathetic to see this kind of thing in sports, but it's all too common.

On another note, Tyler has now put together 2 excellent games against two of the best teams in college basketball, and his actions on and off the court speak volumes about the character of this young man. I'm proud to call him one of us and I have a feeling he may have some very good nights against the devils the next few years.

Here's something y'all over look, it seems.
It didn't bother Lewis at all.

More testament for a kid that I called "...a bundle of nervous choke" , prior to UVa.

What rubs me wrong is the vehement denials from the Duke people. Like they are somehow better than us and there's no way some students would organize a chant like this. Yes, even Duke students can be stupid teenagers. We've all made bad some bad choices when we were young. It's part of growing up. That said, I think this thing has blown totally out of proportion.

Im not sure why this surprises anyone. It's more of the same. We all remember the pizza boxes. Fans are responsible and accountable for sportsmanship as well. It's high time sportsmanship becomes more of a focus in college sports.

What about such classy taunts as the old "In-Hale, Ex-Hale," when Steve Hale suffered a punctured lung, showering the Maryland player with women's panties after he was accused, but not charged, with rape, making fun of any and every short player ever, chucking shoes on the floor when Valvano was announced, and throwing records at Washburn? There's a fine line between wit and classless. Admittedly, the witty stuff is pretty damned funny ("You suck, Richard," after K got mad about "You suck, Dick!"), but you have to know when you're crossing a line, and throwing anything at anyone, making fun of someone's genetics, and/or mocking a player for losing a close family member are all over the line.

I admit that I was totally incensed about this.....sort of like the school marm in the old west that wanted to supplement her income by dressing up provocatively and having a few drinks bought for her by the cowboys and just wanting to sit there and let them pour out their troubles (HMMMM....sounds like Dr. Phil or perhaps the logic of some of the doo gooders I have known....and don't ask me how I knew them). THEN Miss Kitty breaks the news. She does NOT pay the girls that are in her "saloon". The girls PAY HER. Why, she asked? Because they can earn 50 times what they pay me upstairs.....and then tells the naive school marm what the going rates are for the various escapades and fettish fulfilling performances are. THAT is when the young school marm got INCENSED....

Now that I have defined INCENSED.....I am probably no longer at that state. Saw Chris Paul (who is NOW being coached by Del Negro) whack Julius in 2005. But never heard the "Killed your Grandpa" chant that our loonies supposedly did later on. I did laugh at the signs and agree with them at the Duke-MD game....."GOOD RIDDENCE".

So, 24 hours after this went viral and listening to the "objectivity" of the local sports talk jocks, between doing infomercials on how SWEEET your Valentine's "experience" would be if you ordered Chocolate Coated Berries and put their name in the Promo Box....wonder if they get a commission? They were fussing about how much of their precious morning was spent on the phones and how viral this had gone in the Land of Harrow and Mayes (UK).

From that, I conculded that regardless of whether it had been actually said or not, most of the free world (that is interested in such....Don't know what is trending on the Chinese Face Book pages....WELL maybe I do....Ting Ting did a great Rev Billy Barber imitation the other day). BUT DRUM ROLL PLEASE....

For those inclined to know of such fan behavior in College BB (FB?), they all were somewhat put off and mildly INCENSED that the Dukies MIGHT have said that.....Which means that they fully understand that the Dukies are totally classless and TOTALLY CAPABLE OF DOING IT. I think they call this Guilt Based on Past Crimes Committed.

So, folks just took it in stride. It was Classless (whether it was said or not). It was SAID (or maybe not) in Cameron by the Crazies. SO, based on past performances, it probably DID (or maybe not....don't matter) HAPPEN. Could NOT have happened to a nicer crowd. Maybe social media ain't so bad at all....

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Long post which may or may not kill discussion. If so, sorry and will ban myself from posting again today. Except if we win- in which I will now go ahead and give a preemptive YAY! I also like Gunsmoke. I'm passionate about this and personal freedoms! I am a believer in the "sixth" man theory.

I wasn't at the game on Thursday and actually only watched the 1st 5 mins. I knew it was going to be ugly and didn't want to be anywhere around it. As much as I love our team, who could not see this coming? Sorry, I don't like seeing cute little animals that I love (our team) suffer.

The "grandma" chant on you-tube was obvious to me. It was OVER the line - not fair to the kid. The kid did NOTHING to deserve that. But guess what, Tyler is a collegiate athlete and that comes with the territory.

I have less sympathy for players who had bad behavior and bad judgement whether they were "guilty" or not. The lesson is and was don't be around trouble. There was nothing Tyler could have done about his Grandmother dying, and the closeness of his relationship just shows he's a good kid.

I was there at the game as a real, real young kid for the pizza box incident. I was there for the bald masks when MD came to town (don't remember the panties). I was there for the jiggling of the car keys and other great chants at State players (Valvano did recruit some characters). The "in-hale" and "ex-hale" - Steve was well enough to ball and it's not like he walked around with a tank of oxygen. He was well, plus he actually had a lot of fans with the Duke females. He was gorgeous and that was clever and funny. I was mad at K when he "reformed" and effectively muted the student body.

If you've been to a Duke game and taken a picture of the actual student body, you won't notice much similarities from the crowds of yesteryear. There's not a whole lot of student independence from the time they arrive to the time they leave. They are bussed in. They stand in line for hours. They are mashed worse than a can of sardines. They can't even sit down comfortably unless they lay all over eachother (halftime is the only time sitting is permissible). It's almost like the lose their identitiy (if they had any) when they walk in the door. I don't care how old you are, most normal human beings that aren't from cultures that treat you like a dispensible number don't like to be treated this way and especially at a basketball game (even if it is free).

Most Duke students have to be "told" what to say and the rest of the students just fall into place. It's really kind of scary. Pretty sure many kids didn't know why they were chanting about Tyler's grandma. Most all the chants are organized. They have a team that is "in charge" of chants and they write down chants on a white board and flash it in front of the student body. The way K controls that crowd it wouldn't surprise me if he approves the chants before the game.

Duke has student attendance problems at their men's basketball games. With their winning records and national championships, most Duke students don't want to go to their basketball games. Think about that. Why? (see above) I seriously doubt K is going to admonish the few students who do come to the games. I would be surprised especially since the crowd did correct itself quickly. It's godsend for K that Cameron is so small to control high ticket demand. K fought for that too.

To hear the Tyler chant, that was chanted by hundreds of kids. I can't (and don't) believe that would make the white board though. Tyler is a kid. Those Dukies are kids - somebody used bad judgement and the other kids followed is my speculation. Sometimes kids use good judgement and sometimes they don't. In sports, you've got to be tough. When I was a kid playing ball on a mostly black team, I was leading the team out of the locker room to the court and I remember a man shouting "nXgger lover" at me and then it seemed like the crowd just went silent to me. I would say that's pretty extreme and over-the-line for a HS girls basketball player.

I remember looking at that man dead-on and then looking at the people around him. Most around him had a horrified and bewildered look on their face and then turned on the man. No, I didn't hear those words again.

Players use such words for motivation. My team and I had a great game. On a side note, my future collegiate coach was there and shook my parents hands after the game and said that she wanted me on the team. That was a dream of mine - Div 1 ball at a school of my choosing. I believe very few people in the crowd felt that way that man did. I hope in my heart he didn't feel that way too.

I would go out on a limb and say that most of those Duke kids probably had a sick feeling when they later found out the background on Tyler's deceased grandmother.

Fans will sometimes say mean things. The unc-cheat fans (whether sober or drunk) are NO BETTER and worse they have NO creativeness. Talk about non-thinking dolts. Misbehaving State fans are usually drinkers but most that I've run across have been admonished (self-corrected) pretty quickly for bad behavior.

The crowd will regulate itself. It did real quick as Dukies did change the chant to "Past your bedtime." I suspect that chant was on the white board. When I was on the floor, I realized that many players actually say even meaner words to each other. Like Adventuroo it makes me laugh to think of the verbal exchanges between mouthy players like Chris Paul and Julius Hodge? It's about competitive advantage.

At State games, the pack pride team (?) hands out little sheets of paper. Our chants/suggestions absolutely SUCK. Not clever. Not fun. Just ..... stupid and uninspiring. We don't even target the "targeted" players. It's really ridiculous. At least most times, Duke is somewhat clever. Our students don't even bother to read them anymore. Maybe if ours weren't so horrible that we wouldn't be so defensive about Duke chants.

Our games for the fans with the band are routine but it it's still fun. I think that we have the best routines and some of the best songs. At the Miami game, there were a few deer antler call-outs but something along those lines at Reggie Johnson would have been great. What the sad thing was is that it actually worked in getting under his skin given his attitude at the end of the game. I enjoy our games a lot.

The former Clemson coach (Purnell) was brilliant for bringing in a (traveling) sports psychologist. If the team is mentally weak, you address it. If you've ever read Pat Conroy's My Losing Season: A Memoir, Clemson's fans were more awful than I had heard. You think Maryland wouldn't have been worse to Tyler had our scheduling been different?

Given the game, Tyler played and more importantly how he handled himself, I think his grandmother is smiling down on him. He'll be just fine and I'm sure the coaches (and his family and friends and teammates; I can just see big ol' Vandy draping his long arm over Tyler's little bitty shoulder) are looking after him.

Given the score at the time of the "grandma" chant to the end of the score, it is clear that it deflated the Duke team who were probably embarrassed and rallied our team.

Dang Wuffette, maybe Gott should bring you in as the team's psycho-analyzing type person.

Well said and agree with all.

Only we don't play again until tomorrow, but still no need to ban yourself today. Preach on!

pretty fun little read about past Duke fans:
www.espn.go.com/page2/s/cameron/hits.html

I'm not bent out of shape over the chant, especially since – as C'Dog pointed out – it didn't seem to bother Lewis. What IS entertaining is the Dookies falling all over themselves to deny that it happened, and to complain about tarring the entire group of Dookies with one brush. I listened to the video, and while I can't tell for sure what they said before the 2nd freethrow, it sure wasn't "past your bedtime". I think it's likely that it happened and even if it didn't, I'll still blame them for it.

Good catch on Conroy("Conrack") there...If I remember correctly, Pat's coach at the former boy's school in Charleson had NC State ties...

The chant I want to hear at a game is "I'm blind, I'm deaf, I want to be a ref"!!

N&O blog report about this: http://blogs.newsobserver.com/staten...c-states-lewis

Apparently they spoke to Tyler's dad, Rick. He states it happened, but was isolated. It is messed up, but at State games, it gets ugly too. This should be let go. There is no holier than thou attitude, although, I think they should not have said it. When I attended, no one gave us a paper with chants, but that was under Lowe and there was nothing to get excited about. State needs to focus on winning some more games. For all those who were saying Tyler was going to transfer, are you sure? He is playing excellently for a freshmen, better than Purvis and Warren. I think he may have more rebounds than TJ. Anyways, time to focus on getting the W at Clemson.

+1 == DrWuff.....

nothing really to add except....

it's no surprise at anything that goes on in Cameron...except to repeat -- those kids are a minority of Dook students....

it's a damn fine line between creatively brilliant and rude and obnoxious ...

and i really thought the "nervous purvis" chant was spot on....

AND THIS....

Tyler is the real deal.... on and off the court !!!
He will continue to make ALL of us proud...

Let me make a distinction here. If a fanbase is ridiculing a player,I am ok with it, it comes wih the terrtory. Duke fans have always been the leader when it comes to distasteful. Yes other fans chant things, ridicule players, taunt, I get it, however wen it comes to deah of a family member, common sense(not so common) should prevail. Another thing to clarify, it wasnt the fanbase accused of tauntng paul re: his grandfather. His excuse was Hodge said somethng. Hodge denied this and I believe him.

And I heard Jack White sing "..fuck me.." in his Grammy set last night. CBS says, "...fight me..."

​It was definitely the former, and by god was part of an awesome set.

Like the Cappy said above, it fades away.

Man, it ain't no big deal. Lewis will remember, just like all ballplayers remember, and use it or file it.

Why is it still a yellow sticky?