Chip Alexander @ a Chuck Amato Presser

This video is just too amazing and nationally popular right now not to link. I can only imagine that this is waht Chip Alexander used to feel like at Chuck Amato’s press conferences.

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53 Responses to Chip Alexander @ a Chuck Amato Presser

  1. ncsslim 09/19/2007 at 6:42 PM #

    Roandaddy, there’s a reason that no one ever shouts at GWB: they don’t get in the event. And, you don’t really think this guy was some kind of pro-war righty, do you? He was attacking Kerry from the left, even if in an incoherent, whiney, self-defeating manner.

    Come on guys, this fellow is an absolute punk ass brat. He was not behaving in any sort of civilized manner. If he incited even a small number in that audience to behave in the same way he did, you’d have had an absolute riot. His intentions were not remotely honorable, and I’m surprised that virtually anyone has fallen for his little act. He deserved whatever came his way; he had every chance in the world to end this little charade multiple times and chose to make a spectacle until he received more than his punk ass could handle. Anyone who thinks he could have simply been reasoned with is fooling themselves, or has some other agenda in mind.

  2. wolfman 09/19/2007 at 7:12 PM #

    I wouldn’t normally pipe up on this kind of banter on here, since this is a site primarily dedicated to sports and all things NC State, but I agree with SFN. The use of excessive force, in this case a Taser, was not warranted at the point that it was used. I appreciate the need for law and order, but in this case the cops were out of line. This kid has a right to ask his question in a public forum, and when that question was asked, it was determined that he was out of line. I believe that this is still America, and we still have something called the First Amendment, or has everyone forgotten that? We are sadly moving further and further down the same road as Nazi Germany. First it started with little things…

  3. redfred2 09/19/2007 at 7:35 PM #

    “First it started with little things…”

    I guess common courtesy and respect for others were the first to go.

  4. redfred2 09/19/2007 at 7:45 PM #

    The kid was a grandstander, an ass, and a PUBLIC nuisance, and the police may not have handled it properly. The kid did incite, he knew exactly what he wanted and he’ll get it. He’ll be on every news source and talk show for the next two weeks.

    So who is to blame?

    I’d say both, to lesser and greater extents, so it’s pretty much a wash.

  5. GAWolf 09/19/2007 at 8:24 PM #

    Yeesh. I usually hate on the police pretty good, but they warned him. For whatever reason they chose to arrest him and he clearly resisted arrest. You have a right to resist an unlawful arrest but I don’t think any amount of principal in his diatribe is worth getting tazed.

    One word: Idiot.

    He’s lucky Kerry didn’t win. This sort of scene is what Secret Service break peoples’ bones for… if not worse. He would have been mincemeat had Kerry been the President.

    ON a side note, I talked to a reputable State Trooper in the jury room today who told me some fantastic stories of working presidential happenings in NC. He gave me a little insight into how the Secret Service operates and it’s amazing.

  6. cradletograve 09/19/2007 at 9:00 PM #

    Ga Wolf, Yeah and?

  7. tobaccordshow 09/19/2007 at 9:32 PM #

    Seriously, lets continue that story.

  8. packpigskinfan23 09/19/2007 at 10:19 PM #

    I am with GaWolf… I normally rip the cops a new one in topics like this(I am sure some of your remember the Larry Harris thread)… but this kid ASKED for it. He got what he deserved. I bet he is proud as hell about it too. You cant just force a forum to prolong itself for you to yell questions at the speaker and not let him answer!!! He knew he was going to be removed, and made a big deal about it just so he could later tell his story to Hannity and Limbaugh. Please tell me they havent fallen for it?!

  9. bTHEredterror 09/20/2007 at 2:07 AM #

    I don’t think he was resisting arrest, I think he was waging an all out effort to GET arrested. If he turns and walks out of there when asked, he’d likely have gotten off with a warning, when he forced them to remove him and shook free at the door, he was to be arrested for willful trespassing.

    There was no nobility in his actions, and I would say it was a poorly chosen battle. So what if Kerry and Bush are in some secret fraternity, what’s the point in screaming like a raving lunatic and acting as if he was the first pseudo-genius to arrive at this conclusion? Was this theory/tidbit, which is widely exposed and readily available in various painfree (in most cases) forms, worthy of insulting the time of others who had waited longer than he had, and appearing to be a rather namby-pamby spokesman for his vague cause worth risking arrest? Much less some electricity.

  10. gumbydammit 09/20/2007 at 2:09 AM #

    Yes, the kid was a grandstanding Jerk. Yes, it was a planned publicity stunt. But if any of you legitimately believe that it is appropriate for the police to taser you when you are pinned to the ground by 5 of them, and all you’re doing is exercising your right to free speech, asking the question “Why are you arresting me?”, then you deserve to be tasered too. Under this logic, being a jerk is sufficient reason to be tasered by a cop, and you’re right there with him. Arrest him for public disturbance? Sure – fine. Apply the law. Tasering just becasue he pissed them off? Got what he deserved? That kind of bullsh!t thinking will get us all tasered one day.

  11. RochesterRedWolf 09/20/2007 at 2:12 AM #

    You never win against the Police ever; ever. You shut your mouth, do what your told, yessir, nosir, etc. I’ve gotten out of many tickets with humbleness, honesty etc. Alot of these guys aren’t highly educated, i knew many who just wanted to carry a gun and bully people, i’m not saying all are like that. So the more the average citizen realizes that, the quicker it’ll all be over with. I don’t think the guy staged it in the since that he was gonna get “taken down”. Obviously he had his friends there who were gonna tape him talk “smack” to Kerry (big whoop). So they just caught everything on camera and it got more out of control than anyone expected. Don’t think he should have been tasered but coulduv-shoulduv-woulduv doesn’t count.

  12. packpigskinfan23 09/20/2007 at 11:23 AM #

    gumby- been tasered for getting out of the car because the cop told me to… sure I was cussing the mfer out by this time because this was the 3rd time he was gonna pat me down and all I was wearing were some swimming shorts, but still all I did was what I was told.

    I guess a jerk cop+a jerk=taser. Who woulda known!?

    However, this kid could have just stopped resisting. He was flopping around like an idiot to make a scene. I am still not saying the cops should have done that… but this guy is just stupid.

  13. tcthdi-tgsf-twhwtnc 09/20/2007 at 2:38 PM #

    “If you want to make your point, then don’t bitch about the licks you took making said point.”

    So you are saying for exercising your right to free political speech you should be beat and be electrocuted by a gang of thugs that you can’t hit back lest you be charged with another offense? Why do people want to give away their freedom is beyond me and put their liberty in the hands of HS educated meat heads.

  14. Lock 09/20/2007 at 2:49 PM #

    The kid, quite simply, got what he deserved. And if he was putting on a stunt, I’m glad they broke out the tazer on him.

    You’re not exercising your right to free speech when all you’re doing is trying to get a rise out of people. This is the kinda snobbish, self-serving thing I’d expect to see a UNC kid do. You saying UNC kids don’t deserve a good tazing?

    “What’d I do?” You were an ass, that’s what you did, and you resisted arrest. That’s illegal last time I checked (well, the resisting arrest part anyway).

  15. tcthdi-tgsf-twhwtnc 09/20/2007 at 3:51 PM #

    “The kid, quite simply, got what he deserved. And if he was putting on a stunt, I’m glad they broke out the tazer on him.”

    Bottom line is that the kid was was arrested for speaking. He could of been killed by the jack booted thugs by being tazed. Tazer have killed people before and they are very dangerous weapons. The kid wasn’t threating anyone verbally of physically but simply being an ass.

    Sir, may I suggest you taze someone that you think is being an ass and see what kind of consequences you will suffer. The ‘police’ that used that weapon to silence a student at a campus event should be put in jail.

    Political events have protesters in attendance all the time and this is the first time I’ve seen 6 adults resort to potential deadly force to remove the person being obnoxious.

  16. packpigskinfan23 09/20/2007 at 4:58 PM #

    No tcthdi, the kid wasnt arrested for speaking. The kid was asking questions, not letting Kerry answer them, and was asked to leave. He was disrupting the end of the forum and being an ass and a nuisance to everyone who was there. Then he resisted leaving to the point that the cops were forced to MAKE him(or even arrest him) to get him out of there. He wouldnt have been arrested at all if he would have just turned around and walked out when the cops told him to.

    I dont like most cops at all… but this kid asked for it.

  17. tcthdi-tgsf-twhwtnc 09/20/2007 at 5:30 PM #

    No packpig, the kid was arrested for speaking. I don’t have a problem with him being arrested because his speech had been disruptive. The criminal part was that the use of potentially deadly force was used by the incompetent keystone piglets.

  18. wolfman 09/20/2007 at 6:33 PM #

    Disruptive speech or not, obnoxious kid or not, the use of excessive and deadly force is criminal in this case. It shouldn’t take 5 cops and one tazer to arrest one skinny, punk-ass college kid. But to my point, dissenting speech is not only a God-given right, it is guaranteed by the law of this land, and this country was in fact founded on that principle. Period. The day we let the cops or anybody else pre-empt that right at their own discretion, we let America become a Nazi police state. Looks like it is already happening, and most people are agreeing with it.

  19. redfred2 09/20/2007 at 8:23 PM #

    Let’s not go off the deep end there wolfman (and others). Whether you believe it or not, we ARE in a very unsafe and unstable period both domestically and abroad. In this instance we are looking at meeting place full of people involving someone who is considered, by some, to be a very powerful political figure. The guy is a potential presidential candidate, the security is already tight and on edge, and there’s no way for them to tell if the disrupting individual has co-horts with worse intentions. Sure, I think they could have possibly shoved him on through the doors and dealt with him out of the room, but it didn’t happen that way and other people saw it and filmed it. Big f’n deal, the guy is not hurt, he’ll survive to mouth off and be a nuisance another day. Publicly slap the officers on the wrist and tell them to do a better job of containing the situation earlier the next time.

  20. redfred2 09/20/2007 at 8:39 PM #

    I’m just wondering if there is anyone out there questioning the police tactics in this instance, who was also astonished that something couldn’t have been done sooner to stop the events up at Va Tech earlier?

    You can’t have it both ways.

    These aren’t the good old days anymore, officials just can’t afford to make judgement calls and hope for the best, they either react and take total control of the situation, or they put innocent people in possible danger.

  21. bTHEredterror 09/21/2007 at 6:26 AM #

    I never said the use of force was acceptable. I’m just saying I understand the nature of authority in this country, and suggesting the risk was unnecessary. This victim doesn’t compel me to pity in the slightest. I think he got what he wanted, though perhaps more than he deserved.

    This was a lazy man’s tactic to obtain some publicity, quick and without any investment in skill or expression.

    Primarily, I feel it is supremely disingenuous to provoke arrest and then draw attention to your treatment when you get what you were seeking.

    As long as there are police, there will be police brutality. Authority and some level of corruption are inevitable.

    If this is the first time you’ve been shocked by one-times, then welcome back from Shangri-La.

  22. packpigskinfan23 09/21/2007 at 11:26 AM #

    tcthdi- How was the kid arrested for SPEAKING?! He wasnt “speaking”, he was SCREAMING. He was out of line and order. The forum was done. They allowed him to ask a question. Once they realized that his question was not a question, but in fact an agenda against Kerry- they cut the kid off. He was asked to leave, and resisted.

    Freedom of Speech does not come into play here at all. Its like going to a funeral and screaming out how much of a piece of shit the deceased is. Its just wrong and should not be put up with.

    I tend to agree with you on the actions of the cops being somewhat criminal… but the kid basically begged for it! They just fell into his trap. Yes we all know the “serve and protect” stuff, but we also know that most cops are the “loud, cocky, and dumb” type from HS.

  23. gumbydammit 09/21/2007 at 11:43 AM #

    If it were just one cop taking him into custondy and he was “resisting”, then tasering may have been appropriate. That isn’t the case here – he was pnnied down by five cops, not going anywhere, not a threat to the cops or anyone else – he was just being a jerk. Being a jerk is not (or at least SHOULD NOT BE) a justifiable reason for law enforcement to taser you. Especially hwhen he is pleading not to be tasered before it happened (that part I thought was over the top acting on his part, but he did it, and the application of the taser at that point crosses the line of excessive force). Syaing he “got what he deserved” further reinforces the point that he was not tasered for the purpose of subduing a dangerous suspect, but rather becasue he pissed off the cop with the taser. That smacks of retribution, of punishment – and that is not the role of police in our society. Brutailty may be inevitable, but should never be tolerable.

  24. packpigskinfan23 09/21/2007 at 12:06 PM #

    He was pleading to NOT be tasered and that is what got him tasered… he asked for it. If he would have never brought the taser up, they probably wouldnt have even thought about it. “Don’t taser me! Dont taser me! What did I do?!” “Then calm down sir.” “What the fuck did I do!?! Dont Taser ME!! What did I do?!” “CALM DOWN SIR.” “DONT TASER MEEE!!!”

    the cop finally said… screw it. Its not fair, and its not right… but he asked for it.

  25. redfred2 09/21/2007 at 1:13 PM #

    So the guy got tasered, whoop tee f’n do. Yeah it hurt I’m sure, but he was fine and seemed to be able to continue his yelling and screaming almost without pause, so what is the big hairy deal. You people act like he was forced to endure hours of merciless flogging or something.

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