My View: The New AD Must Be Experienced and Successful

Now that change has come to the leadership of NC State’s athletics programs, it’s fair to take an objective look at the state of the program as it really is, and what qualities the new Athletic Director should have in order for NC State to be more successful than is the current state of affairs.  Here’s my take on the kind of man that NC State should hire, based upon the current lay of the land in West Raleigh.

There are times one can turn the reins of an enterprise over to an unproven or little-tested leader, and there are others where a leader with a strong track record of success are needed.  The former is suitable when the organization is running optimally, and little change is needed.  The inexperienced manager can learn on the job, being careful all the while to not make drastic changes until he is sure that the change is called for.  His subordinates are proven and competent, and the programs he inherits are proven winners.  The latter leader — the guy with the wealth of experience — is needed in a situation where things are not right, when the organization is performing well below its capability, and where strong guidance from the top is needed to create a management environment that sets the tone for future success.  In other words, this is the guy you want to come in when things are broken because he knows how things are supposed to work.

As we posted yesterday,  only four different programs — Men’s Cross Country, Women’s Cross Country, Women’s Softball & Wrestling — have won an ACC Championship during Lee Fowler’s ten-year tenure in Raleigh.  Note that the two revenue sports of football and men’s basketball did not – and that those two sports drive the perception of NC State not only in North Carolina or in the region, they do so nationally.  If a rising tide lifts all boats, that tide must come from the two marquee programs, and if it does, the positive effect will be seen across the entire landscape of Wolfpack athletics.

That said, State needs to focus its search on an Athletic Director who is that guy who will come in and set things straight, create an environment of defined goals and accountability, one who is not afraid to make the difficult decision as to whether a change is needed when things are not working as planned, and not only that, someone who knows what it takes to have a successful football program and a men’s hoops team that’s a regular entrant into the NCAA tournament.

In short, State should hire someone who meets this basic set of requirements:

  • Athletic Director experience at a BCS/Power Conference school
  • A successful record in managing football and basketball (conference championship-level teams, and one that’s an NCAA Tournament regular in basketball)
  • A successful and dynamic fundraiser
  • One who is successful public relations, works well with the press, and Internet management
  • Demonstrated innovative and successful brand management,  where value and media income are maximized
  • Successful management of NCAA rules and regulations (no major probations or lingering questions)
  • Has managerial courage – will make the tough call when it needs making
  • Successful management of the academic requirements required by the University

This should not be a wish list, it should be the minimum set of standards. Chancellor Woodson has made the correct first step by involving a national search firm to shake the trees and find the right set of candidates.  Now he must see it through and actually fill Lee Fowler’s chair with a proven AD. Getting someone who has that skill-set will not be cheap, and this is not the time for NC State to be foolishly bargain hunt to save a few thousand dollars.  As an institution, it has shown the courage to make change, and now it needs to finish the task by showing the courage to pay the market rate someone with proven success demands.

This decision will have long-lasting effects, and getting it right this time is one of the most important things that NC State has done in athletics in quite a long time, probably since it replaced Jim Valvano.  Let’s hope it gets it right this time and does a much better job than it has since the dark days of the early 1990’s.

AD & Department NC State

46 Responses to My View: The New AD Must Be Experienced and Successful

  1. Easy E 05/05/2010 at 1:25 AM #

    well it would seem we could not go anywhere but up.. lets hope we find someone that cares more about Wolfpack athletics than his golf score

  2. tractor57 05/05/2010 at 6:14 AM #

    Alpha I share your opinion. This isn’t the time to try an untested although potentially great individual. It is the time for a proven top notch AD. That makes hiring a qualified search firm even more important. So far good steps and hopefully the process will continue in that manner.

  3. BSIE80 05/05/2010 at 7:11 AM #

    If Woodson knew that Fowler would be gone by June 30th back when he arrived, would he not already have someone lined up??
    Why the wait? A search firm could have been working on this since March!

    By the way, this is a wish list. Why would an experienced AD from a power conference make a lateral move to NCSU- especially with the pressure that the position brings? There are limited funds! We can’t just pay above market price to lure someone away from their current position. This is like saying, lets go get Coach K to come to State isn’t it?

  4. tuckerdorm1983 05/05/2010 at 7:26 AM #

    not to quote a very famous and esteemed person but “free at last, free at last, thank god free at last”

  5. Dr. BadgerPack 05/05/2010 at 7:32 AM #

    Alpha- That’s a good set of minimum standards. There is one I would add, and it may be the most important quality for the successful AD. Rarely can one find an individual who excels in every listed area, so the greatest success come from those who:

    know, understand and acknowledge their limitations!

    Not-so-successful candidates refuse to recognize their shortcomings. The truly great ones not only can assess their weaknesses, but see no shame in surrounding themselves with individuals who fill in the gaps, so to speak.

    In short- the new AD, if he is going to be great, needs to check his ego at the door.

  6. Wolfpack_1995 05/05/2010 at 7:51 AM #

    Please let the Dark Ages of NC State Athletics be behind us. 1990 to present!

    No more Todd Turners, Les Robinsons, or Lee Fowlers.

    Give me a proven winner and at least one basketball or football national championship in the next 10 years!

    Please OH LORD!

  7. Alpha Wolf 05/05/2010 at 8:09 AM #

    BSIE80 – I truly hope your post was tongue-in-cheek sarcasm.

    The bottom line is that if NC State wants a top-notch guy, and they are making it seem like they do, they had better prepare to pay the man his worth.

    Also, I truly love the myth that NC State is the only school that “brings pressure with it.” It’s as if NC State is the only school with demanding fans who want success. Most all of them do. Or the only state school that has to live with a budget. All of them do.

    Every school, save for the Notre Dames and perhaps Stanford and Duke, have to live within a budget. And even those aforementioned schools do, their budgets are just higher.

    Or is it perhaps that we are close to UNC and Duke, and it is oh, so very hard to compete with them because they are geographically close? If that’s the case, that’s precisely the self-defeatist thinking that eventually sunk the prior regime.

    Yes, NC State is a challenging place to be, and the right man is the man who actively wants to take that challenge by the horns and to tap into the potential that exists within the largest university in the ninth largest state in the country. We have much to offer – a generous and passionate fanbase and a very successful booster club. Now we need the right leader to take the next step, not another guy to learn on the job, leaving us mired in mediocrity or worse while he learns the ropes.

    We are at a turning point. Someone can come in light the rocket’s fuse or we can have another ass-kissing bureaucrat beholden to the status quo.

  8. Moose Hunter 05/05/2010 at 8:15 AM #

    I agree. Plus, an AD who meets those criteria will easily generate revenue from this department. It has been so mismanaged in terms of branding and marketing, that there are literally 10’s of millions out there to be had just by getting us up to the current standards.

  9. Wolf-n-Atl 05/05/2010 at 8:44 AM #

    What about Oklahoma State’s AD or Washington’s or WVU’s… OSU has a similar situation dealing with OU and Texas.

  10. packalum44 05/05/2010 at 9:03 AM #

    Certainly NC State’s perception is not high on a national scale but the reality is that its a great job. We have a lot to sell. Top 5 booster club, RBC Center, Carter Finley, rabid fanbase in spit of losing, Raleigh is a top 5 place to live in the country, great boss (Woodson), great state w/ a growing population, tradition, close to the beach/mountains. And of course, a raise. Why not make an AD’s compensation incentive based like a coach’s?

    Basically my pitch is that you have a chance to take over an under-performing athletic department. You have nowhere to go but up. Revenues could grow by 20% a year for several years if we would just perform. I think we are a sleeping giant. Let’s wake up.

    A charismatic leader (Woodson) can sell a ketchup popsicle to a lady in white gloves. If he can’t make the sell then you find an up-and-comer and use intuition and insight to spot talent. If you screw up, be man enough to admit it and fire them in 2 or 3 years.

  11. formerpackplayer 05/05/2010 at 9:04 AM #

    Here’s the deal- this was taken from the News and Observer’s website today: http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/05/05/467839/whos-next.html
    I know 5 of these people personally and have known them all now for over 20 years from my time there as a player. I just recently spoke with two of them and every single one of them would do right by the Pack. With that said, I hope and pray that it’s either Bobby Purcell or Charlie Cobb that gets the job. Both of those men understand the landscape of Wolfpack Athletics and Bobby’s been so instrumental in making the Wolfpack Club one the most lucrative booster clubs in the country. And you have to acknowledge the work Charlie’s done at App, especially with regard to the success of the football program. I think the only thing that could hinder Bobby is that someone will say that he’s had no real experience at hiring a coach for one of the two big revenue making sports. However, if any of you have ever met the guy you know that his strengths have to do with his ability to connect with people and get a read on them. If there’s anyone slick enough to pull that if- it’s Bobby. Charlie on the other hand is the logical CEO that thinks everything through before making a decision. He was that way on the field, as a leader in the lockerroom and on campus.

    I understand all of the animosity toward Mr. Fowler in the latter days of his tenure but let me tell you guys, he wasn’t Todd Turner. He genuinely loved State, worked very hard to get our facilities on or above par to level the playing field for us against the rest of the conference, and stressed academics. I feel very strongly that history will look back on him very fondly- especially if Coach Lowe wins 22+ games this year with this unbelievable class he’s secured and Coach O’Brien turns the corner with 8+ wins. And y’all, it could really happen.

    Lastly, let me say this. Those two candidates are not only the most logical, but from a goodwill standpoint, there can’t be anything greater for the fanbase. The powers that be are of a mindset that no more mistakes can be made. I have always thought that you learn from your mistakes. Our decision makers have to know the best chance for success (athletic and financial) will come from people that understand success, have seen and participated in it, and done all of this at STATE! Y’all, I’ve got a feeling that we’re going to get it right. Those of you that know who to contact, let your feelings be known to the Board of Trustees and chancellor. Bobby or Charlie!!!!

  12. Sam92 05/05/2010 at 9:08 AM #

    i too think it may be difficult to get an AD to leave a successful BCS school for NCSU – you standards are admirable, but the way you write it, it seems like we’d have to get Florida’s AD to jump ship and come over to us – I think it’s unlikely that someone meeting all the criteria you set out could be lured to NCSU – at least not for the money we can afford to pay

    this is why i think it’s better to get someone maybe a little younger who has shown some real potential

    to compare a little – we brought in TOB because he was seasoned and had proven success, but frankly that’s not working out very well; i don’t think we would have done worse by taking a chance on someone young and dynamic

  13. Alpha Wolf 05/05/2010 at 9:18 AM #

    I respectfully disagree. It’s time for a professional manager with absolutely NO ties to the old guard.

    From top to bottom NC State’s athletics management needs to be on notice. Those in lower level positions that have failed to perform need to go too. A new broom sweeps best, and an old broom often fails to clean the corners.

    What we do NOT need is an old guard guy coming in that “knows” so and so, and allows her or him to stay in their job even though they are not doing it well because they’re old buds from back in the day.

    That’s the Good Ole Boy network that has kept NC State from moving into the modern age and now is the best chance of any to put away the GOB once and for all.

    In fact, it wouldn’t bother me one bit if the new AD made everyone re-apply for their jobs, the same way that some companies do when the complete an acquisition. I’m sure state law would never allow that, as the State of NC seems to exempt itself legally from the At-Will employment laws the private sector operates under.

    While Cobb is a good man and good manager, he has not run a program in a power conference. And on top of that, he made an extremely curious hire recently for their hoops program.

    Bobby Purcell may know the lay of the land around NC State, but at the same time, has he proven that he can run a program from the other desk — the one where the tough calls are made? And also — who would replace him at the Wolfpack Club? That makes hiring him a double-risk, one where you could potentially have a weaker WPC and no improvement in the AD’s office.

    This job should be about getting the best man, not rewarding past loyalty. This is not a family-run hardware store, it is a multimillion dollar business that operates under challenging conditions.

    Finally, hiring an unproven commodity with no tangible track record might lead right back to another Todd Turner.

  14. durhamwolf19 05/05/2010 at 9:22 AM #

    Good post. It’s reins not reigns. I think it will be difficult as well to get an AD from a major BCS school but could be successful in getting that AD’s right hand person. I haven’t felt this much optimism since Sheridan and Valvano were at NC State. Annabelle should be next out the door.

  15. jbpackfan 05/05/2010 at 9:23 AM #

    Alpha is right- we need an outsider with no ties to the current administration or Wolfpack Club.

  16. Moose Hunter 05/05/2010 at 9:24 AM #

    I thought Joe Hull and the Lecrone guy looked interesting. But, overall, I agree with Alpha, I would prefer someone with no ties to NC State.

  17. LRM 05/05/2010 at 9:25 AM #

    I agree with Alpha’s comments above. No offense to either Purcell or Cobb, but I prefer an outsider with no ties to those who have been calling the shots for too long.

    Woodson wasn’t “one of us” and he’s done a fine job assimilating so far. There’s no reason to suspect someone like him wouldn’t easily do so as well.

  18. WIFF 05/05/2010 at 9:33 AM #

    I don’t like that list from the N&O for most of the reasons that Alpha stated above. We need new blood. No ties. No personal connections influencing tough decisions.

    Is there any history of non-sports people taking over AD jobs? I feel like a top CEO would be just as qualified as a top AD.

  19. gso packbacker 05/05/2010 at 9:58 AM #

    I enjoy tossing around names of potential candidates as much as anyone (how fun would a search be if we didn’t?), but really the conversation should be about prioritizing what we need (see Alpha). Coming from the Executive Search business, it’s all about the process and identifying what we need want and/or need in addition to what we’re willing to pay for it. Paying a top notch firm 75k to find the best person is by far the best way to go (even if we end up with Purcell or Cobb).

    With that said, I think the most important thing to look for is a track record of success and improvement (not just on the field). Just because someone came into a good situation (even at a BCS school) and has been able to maintain the course doesn’t necessarily mean they’re capable of getting us there. I’d rather focus on someone who possesses the vision and savvy and is capable of making tough changes when needed (coaches, staff, internal practices) while improving our department/operations and overall brand.

    Conversely, I can only hope that having knowledge of NC State or the Wolfpack club is not a requirement higher than 50th on the list.

  20. formerpackplayer 05/05/2010 at 10:05 AM #

    Alpha,
    I understand where you’re coming from and don’t disagree with your reasoning. I just feel so strongly about those two men and their credentials that I don’t care about their ties. I can assure you that neither would allow anyone to “fatcat” on their payroll. And you’re right, Bobby hasn’t proven whether or not he can do it from the other desk. But we have hired people from the outside, Fowler and Turner, and they didn’t necessarily work out. And like I said before I don’t think Fowler was the complete disaster that he’s been made out to be but I also realize that a change probably needed to be made. I just still think that those two could take us to a place that we’ve not experienced since V was the AD.

  21. bradleyb123 05/05/2010 at 10:19 AM #

    People here have said (and I tend to believe them) that NC State’s administration has no love or care for athletics. They were embarrassed by the Valvano stuff (even if our own local media did us no favors in those matters), and ever since then, we’ve been in an administration-induced coma in athletics.

    The idea is that our problems go much higher than Fowler. Yes, he’s bad. But so are the people in charge of hiring (or in this case, replacing) him.

    So my thinking is, now we get to see if our administration has any kind of love for athletics. Hopefully, they realize that our athletic performance contributes to the overall image of our university, and it’s not just the academic eggheads that shape that image.

    If we make a real head-scratcher of a hire to replace Fowler, then we’ll know the NCSU administration is still not on board with athletics.

    Please, correct me if I’m wrong. But I’ve read some stuff over the last couple of years that make me very pessimistic. I think we could have a FINE athletic program if we weren’t holding OURSELVES back.

    I also have a theory about the NC university system. If they consider UNX to be their “flagship” program, maybe they don’t care much for any real competition from within our own system. They can’t control Duke, but they CAN control us. Am I wrong? I know it’s a tin-foil hat way of thinking, but it makes sense. If UNX brings in the biggest money to the system, they have a reason to not rock that boat. It would make sense that we don’t pay the big money for the top coaches since that would only hurt our “flagship” program, and in essence, be like shooting ourselves (meaning, the NC university system) in the foot. But they can’t control EVERYTHING. They can’t keep players like Ryan Harrow and CJL from choosing NC State, and periodically having a winner in Raleigh. But they CAN control (to some extent) what we can pay our AD’s, coaches, etc., and limit our CHANCES at regular success.

    Am I way off base here? I’m glad for our recruits, but I have a dim outlook for our chances for regular success. It feels like we’re set up for failure.

  22. old13 05/05/2010 at 10:23 AM #

    “I respectfully disagree. It’s time for a professional manager with absolutely NO ties to the old guard.”

    I agree with this and Alpha’s general premise. But it also depends on who shows interest. The approach that Dr. Woodson has talked about seems to be to 1) set appropirately high standards for the position, 2) weed out the candidates who do not meet that basic criteria, and 3) objectively evaluate the remaining candidates against the established criteria. If BP, CC or any one of the other more “local favorites” makes the cut and grades out as the top candidate, I have no problem with them getting the position – as long as it is all done objectively in consideration of the set criteria on a national scale.

    As far as actually being able to interest experienced ADs with strong, successful backgrounds at BCS/power institutions, it has been pointed out that there are a number of attractive characteristics at NCSU. I would think that the challenge of building what is already in place to a top level would also be attractive to such people, especially if they are in a position where it is already built and their job is primarily just maintenence.

    Now having said all of that, my bottom line hope is that the results of the AD search turn out to be similar to the results of the Chancellor search.

  23. Alpha Wolf 05/05/2010 at 10:25 AM #

    bradley,

    Consider the changes in the BOT and the Chancellor’s office. It’s a new day in those places. The Faculty Senate rightfully wants a proper balance of academics with athletics. Name a school where academicians don’t want that, and I will buy you a beer of your choice.

    Maybe I am being overly optimistic, but I like what Chancellor Woodson is saying in terms of athletic success enhancing the overall image of the university. He’s right in that it is a marketing force nonpareil, and if done correctly, can be one heck of a force for good.

  24. redwolf87 05/05/2010 at 10:26 AM #

    I strongly agree with most if not all of the points made by Alpha. We should be able to make an outstanding hire of someone with a fresh outlook and proven track record. And it would be in keeping with the current rolling trend of “cleaning house” at NC State, which was and is sorely needed.

    We have our chance to fix it; now we have to do it right.

  25. Wolfchild 05/05/2010 at 11:10 AM #

    Alpha Wolf…just a comment to temper a few of the expectations, the major ones which I agree with wholeheartedly. First, I too am thankful that Fowler is gone. I haven’t dealt directly with the AD Dept, only see the lack of results from a spectator’s/alum standpoint, but regarding cleaning house of that dept, if that is indeed needed, I would only add that there are two classifications of employees: EPA, persons exempt from the State Personnel Act; and SPA, persons not exempt. EPA employees, for example are/were Fowler, contract employees who can be dismissed for basically any reason that a private employer could fire. Whoever else in the AD dept falls under this banner, and I imaginere there would only be a few–probably executive level only–I’m not sure of. SPA employees can be fired, but as a friend of mine in state government once said, short of a felony, it ain’t too likely. With that said, NC isn’t especially unique in this regard. And gov’t management, including athletics depts for a state university, aren’t businesses either. Some significant similarities from a mgmt standpoint, but some major distinctions. As rabid of a Pack fan as I am, I’m also a taxpayer. I don’t know how the buyout of EPA employees such as Fowler is handled, and as much i’m glad he’s gone, i hope he, or any EPA employee’s severance or honoring of contract after dismissal isn’t being funded by taxpayer dollars. Guessing it is, but i have major objections to it.

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