UVA 67, NC State 62 (Updated 11:45am)

Better late than never, we figured readers wanted to comment on the game last night.

The Wolpack fall in Coach Lowe’s first ACC game against #25 Virginia but managed to impress in the process. . No doubt that the Wolfpack got tired as the game progressed, as Tom Suiter points out in this entry.

State could have. They almost did, but in the end they couldn’t beat Virginia in their ACC opener. Sixty-seven-62, Virginia. Fourteen lead changes in this game. State had the chance to steal an ACC win on the road: 62-62 with 1:25 left.

Now, the Wolfpack got Virginia to play the kind of game they wanted. Limited the Cavaliers in transition, but you know and I know and everybody knows that good teams will wear this thin State team down, and the Pack didn’t have the juice in the end. Depth is just not there, and with senior Engin Atsur a spectator with the bad hamstring, Coach Sidney Lowe was hamstrung even more in what he wanted to do. The Pack played just seven players with four of those going 38 or more minutes.

…But State simply doesn’t have enough bodies.

I am convinced that NC State would have won that game if Engin Atsur was healthy. Just look at the point totals of the starters and imagine Atsur’s presence in the boxscore:

Nieman 4
Costner 17
McCauley 12
Fells 11
Grant 15

Just five to seven minutes of rest for Gavin Grant and Courtney Fells can make a world of difference on both ends of the floor of the Pack. Atsur and Trevor Ferguson’s return will definitely help boost the team’s prospects the rest of the year.

The BEST part of the entire day came on the last shot of the day (by Brandon Costner) that the Pack actually missed. Ken Tysiac of the Charlotte Observer – who never expressed the following ‘observation’ when Herb Sendek was coaching at NC State – said it this way:

N.C. State coach Sidney Lowe does an excellent job getting the shot he wants when he calls timeout to set up a play. Predecessor Herb Sendek did a great job scouting opponents’ tendencies, but he seldom set up a good play during a timeout.

An email from a friend of mine expressed the feeling this way:

wide open looks coming out of a timeout at the end of the game

he should have passed it 5 more times, then shot it off the side of the backboard.

At least we didn’t get a technical for sending six players on the court

Section Six has some super comments about the game.

If the effort and poise are there, everything else is gravy. It seems like there is a pleasant surprise for us every time the Pack takes the court; in this case, it was the way we handled our first tough road environment. Virginia was one of the best home teams in conference play last season–in particular, the Cavs’ offense averaged 1.12 points/possession. Today they scored 67 points on 66 possessions: 1.01 points/possession.

For the fourth straight game, Gavin Grant used over 30% of the team’s possessions while on the court. His usage today (33.8%) was crazy-high. Here’s last season’s leaderboard in the usage category. What Gavin does with all those possessions naturally has a large influence on the team’s overall efficiency; he’s been bad the last couple of games and the team has as well. But I don’t want to be too hard on Gavin what with Atsur sidelined. With Engin, we’ve got five guys on the court who can score. Without Engin, we’ve got four scorers and a fifth guy who basically just takes up space. That fifth man is using very few possessions, a good bit less than Atsur had been using, so that leaves some workload to be redistributed among the other four guys on the court–and those extra possessions are going to Gavin, rightfully or wrongfully. Grant’s turnover rate is fine, and he continues to do a good job getting everyone else involved.

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06-07 Basketball General

48 Responses to UVA 67, NC State 62 (Updated 11:45am)

  1. packpigskinfan23 12/04/2006 at 8:51 AM #

    overall I am very proud of the way the team played… with no depth at all, coming down to the last couple of shots isnt bad at all against a ranked team.

    we still need a LOT of work on offensive rebounding however.

  2. GAWolf 12/04/2006 at 8:59 AM #

    Despite the result, this was a great game for the Pack. I hate to say it’s a moral victory because I really don’t believe in such. In the alternative, it’s definitely a confidence booster for the guys know that they can hang with anybody. A few open shots fall and we win that game. On the flipside, UVA didn’t shoot to well either. We’ll chalk that up to tenacious D!?

  3. for2n8son 12/04/2006 at 9:00 AM #

    I thought they played a heck of a game. Was it a 10 man rotation they were going up against? An outstanding effort. The only shortcomming was the offensive rebounding. That’s something that can be coached.

  4. choppack1 12/04/2006 at 9:02 AM #

    As I said in another thread, I think we’ve got a good shot at making some noise when we get Atsur back and Ferg can play. Our guys don’t lack in the heart department. We struggled on the boards and missed some key rebounding opportunities that could have changed the outcome, but I’m hoping/thinking that’s as much a result of fatigue as anything else.

  5. wolfpackbball 12/04/2006 at 9:05 AM #

    I can’t say enough about the way that this team played last night.
    That being said, the way that Gavin Grant is handling his responsibilities to the team is extremely commendable. Think about it. He is being asked to play out of position in arguably the toughest conference in the nation. Not to play PF when he is a 2 or 3, but to play the most important position on the court. To bring the ball up and make good decisions. This is the time when Gavin should really shine as a scorer and be ‘the guy’ that takes over a game. To hit ‘the shot’ when the game is on the line. This was his time to be ‘THE MAN’ on this team. To put those things on the backburner has to be hard. To handle all of these things as a kid unselfishly and without complaining is awesome. He is doing an unbelievable job, and this experience will pay off in a BIG WAY for this team down the road.

    (just remembering someone in an off-handed way bashing GG after the Michigan game)

  6. packpigskinfan23 12/04/2006 at 9:14 AM #

    has it been said when Atsur is going to return?!

    I think I like GG as the point more than Atsur anyways… from the very beginning of the Michigan game Atsur did not look very comfortable handling the ball. But I cant wait to have him back as support/a great shooter/a great passer

  7. beowolf 12/04/2006 at 9:20 AM #

    This may seem to be a small matter, but given the way the last couple of seasons have went, I don’t think it is. With 13 seconds to go, we were down three. Everyone knew we had to take a 3-point shot. How many times have we been in this position and not even gotten a good look? I have forgotten many, but two that stand out in my mind from last season were the Iowa and Boston College games.

    It looks like we finally have a coach who knows how to design a last-shot play. Our hottest shooter got a clean look from three without a hand in his face and square to the basket. He missed this time, but those shots will fall some too.

    Also, I imagine that if we were only down 1, we won’t be looking for a three-pointer.

  8. partialqualifier 12/04/2006 at 9:22 AM #

    Yea, Gavin played a terrific game! Good job wolfpackbballfor mentioning the sacrifices he is making. Sure at times he seems to decide the minute he gets the ball after a rebound that he is going to shoot at the other end no matter what, but we gotta remember that Coach Lowe is telling him not to forget to try and score.

    Brandon Costner is a beast! I am serious. He is playing every bit as good as Hansbrough and five times better than McRoberts. When State gets those bangers next year, Costner is going to be unreal. Yea, he gagged on a couple of threes at the end of the game, but if it hadnt been for how he played the rest of the game we would have been down 20!

    It seems to me like everyone is playing up to and above their current potential except for Fells. Where is he? We only five guys (w/ Atsur) who can score with any kind of consistency, and when Fells goes into the tank like he has all season it is very difficult on this team. He has got to find a way to make some shots. Altho, I will add that he did a great job on Reynolds all day untill the last 2 minutes.

    Finally, if Ferguson is half the shooter I am hearing he is then we are going to be much better when he is eligible in a couple of weeks. Even given our poor rebounding we can compete most nights if we can find a way to make a few more 3’s. Atsur will help, but Ferguson will help a lot.

  9. Sw0rdf1sh 12/04/2006 at 9:23 AM #

    After spending a week in Puerto Rico surfing and stealing moments at the Internet Cafe to check up on SFN updates regarding coaches/etc, I was very eager to arrive back in time yesterday for the game.

    First game I’ve been able to check out this year and I was very impressed at the way we played. VA squeaked one out at the end and our boys played better than I dreamed during the off season. Some nice 3’s a dunk or two, and a much more exciting game to watch than in the past few years.

    I too believe with Atsur we would have pulled it out, (especially with a late needed tre) but how about how they played without him? Very proud of ’em!

  10. tractor57 12/04/2006 at 9:23 AM #

    I missed the game but I’m really excited by the reports from the game. These guys will be under the gun all season (playing in the conference and being very shorthanded) but I didn’t hear any excuses.
    No doubt – the “fire” is back!

  11. choppack1 12/04/2006 at 9:24 AM #

    Actually Beo – I think when we had the ball and were down 2 w/ our second to last possession, we ran the same play, w/ basically the same result.

    It’s a good play though- nice and simple – and when Costner has more “legs” I expect a different result.

  12. Rochester 12/04/2006 at 9:28 AM #

    McCauley had a couple of beautiful dunks. I really had no idea what he was capable of this year, but he’s been a huge lift. He’s very skilled. When we add Hickson and Smith next year to McCauley, Costner and Horner, we will have a great front court. I’d say I can’t wait, but I’m enjoying this season too much to look past it.

  13. burnbarn 12/04/2006 at 9:33 AM #

    We had a couple of ally oop dunks yesterday.. That just did not happen in the past.

    We played well, but this is a game we could have won. With Atsur, i think we win hands down. We cannot give up the defensive glass like we did last night if we hope to win.

    Those were some soft rims in that gym.. some missed 3s really got launched off the rim last night. It seems we need to work on weak side rebounding position.. we certainly were on the strong side with good position.

    Overall a good game. I think this is the style we will play for most of the season now.

  14. Cardiff Giant 12/04/2006 at 9:36 AM #

    I don’t believe in moral victories either and mourn losing the chance for a critical ACC road win, but this is as close as they come to one.

  15. BoKnowsNCS71 12/04/2006 at 9:45 AM #

    With such shallow depth, additional injuries will kill us. Throw in foul outs and it could get ugly later on. Nothing bd judos for the coaches and players who are playing the hand they were dealt.

  16. Texpack 12/04/2006 at 9:45 AM #

    Add two more players to this rotation and we will be more likely to make some clutch shots down the stretch. The rebounding will have to improve if we are going to steal a few of these.

  17. Cardiac95 12/04/2006 at 9:49 AM #

    Playing with a 6-man rotation that includes a Walkon in the starting lineup…. I have to say I was pretty pleased given it was our first road game of the year.

    Can’t wait to see how we look with Atsur back & Ferguson available.

  18. Dan 12/04/2006 at 9:51 AM #

    I liked the game the guys played. If it were me I’d have had Fells take that last shot, but Costner had the hot hand.

    One thing is for sure, Sid can coach. Its nice to see the guys playing hard for the coach.

    Oh yeah, how nice is it to see the High-Low and Pick and Roll. The little McCauley-Costner high low is beautiful. Who knew Ben could ball?

  19. CarnifeX 12/04/2006 at 9:58 AM #

    Exciting Wolfpack Basketball. Who knew it was possible? The kids looked great, played with heart, looked like the actually believed in what they were doing and what they were capable of.

    Sidney seems to really relate to these kids and they respond extremely well to him. He seems to have a good grasp of ingame coaching and how and when to make changes (see: final shot and zone defenses). He’s even a sharp dresser to boot!

    Glad to have you on our sidelines coach Lowe!

    Go Pack!

  20. Wolfman300 12/04/2006 at 9:59 AM #

    Someone please confirm for me when Ferguson can play?

  21. packfanstk 12/04/2006 at 10:06 AM #

    At least Tim Brando and Dan Bonner didn’t go on ad nauseum about Herb Sendek and how if it hadn’t been for him NC State wouldn’t even have a pot to piss in. Brando did make one [ONE] comment about how we’ve been able to mitigate the loss of Atsur by virtue of the fact that Herb recruited a boatload of wing players that can at least bounce a ball…an observation I agree with, but it dances around the fact that it would have been even easier to deal with had Herb actually recruited some POINT GUARDS. But I digress. It was nice to not have to listen to Nessler and Dykes spout their crap all game long. But friends, let me warn you that we ain’t heard nothing yet. If you thought Dykes was bad, wait until Gmoronski gets his chance to lay into the State Fans Nation about how mean we were to the great paragon of college coaches, how unreasonable our expectations are, and how Sidney Lowe was just a little piece of the greatest accident in NCAA history for a school with no real basketball tradition…at least not compared to mighty Dook. Why everyone knows Vic Bubas’s three Final Fours trumps NC State’s two national championships.

  22. old13 12/04/2006 at 10:13 AM #

    We’ve go a sophmore and a RS freshman covering the boards for us, a game-wise coach, a great staff, and a team that’s together with a great game attitude! I hate to lose; but this is not a loser team! The future is bright! Go Pack!

  23. PortAuthority 12/04/2006 at 10:15 AM #

    Ferguson can play in the spring semester

  24. Lock 12/04/2006 at 10:18 AM #

    Best I’ve ever felt after a loss. Long as these kids play like this every night, I won’t care if we lose every game from here on out (well, okay, I’d like to get a FEW wins in there, but you get the point).

  25. Dan 12/04/2006 at 10:19 AM #

    “Ferguson can play in the spring semester”

    Actually, he can play “after the fall semester”. He doesnt have to wait for the spring semester to begin. He’ll be playing this month I believe.

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