06/24/2015 at 10:58 PM #87437Daily UpdateKeymaster
From a new article today by Dana O’Neil of ESPN: The school is accused of five major violations, including lack of institutional control, but the bask
[See the full post at: Roy Williams Has A “Sense of Relief”!]06/25/2015 at 7:09 AM #87441graywolfParticipant
It’s my hope that Roy’s since of relief comes at his new mountain retirement home very soon after being humiliated by the general public. Better yet. I hope that the men’s basketball team is left as a shell of its former self and they go through 30 years of purgatory just like we did.
One can dream.06/25/2015 at 7:56 AM #87442PackofMacParticipant
I’ve said it and I’m saying it again….the slap on their hands will sting far less than the slap in the face the rest of us get when their “punishment” is handed down. After all these years the fact anyone thinks or is still hopeful for some marvelous punishment to be sent the tar holes way is a bit sad.
SOOOOOOOO Ready for NC State Football!!!!06/25/2015 at 8:20 AM #87443wolfbuffParticipant
Others have said it, and I’ll say it. The NCAA has no interest in killing one of its golden geese. The UNCheat men’s basketball team brings in a considerable amount of revenue for the university and the NCAA. And the NCAA is all about making as much money as possible, not creating an environment of fairness or enforcing rules. They’re in this together.
The NCAA relies on the institutions to police themselves and, failing that, the court of public opinion. To some degree the embarrassment this has caused UNCheat at least wipes the smug grin off their faces and makes “the Carolina way” a punchline.
So, the NCAA will throw the women’s team under the bus because they don’t generate revenue for the NCAA (and possibly slap the football around a little – because they’re irrelevant anyway) and claim that they are “upholding the foundational values of college athletics” or some other such pompous statement. But they won’t touch the men’s basketball or women’s soccer or baseball programs, all of which benefiited from the academic fraud.06/25/2015 at 8:45 AM #87444ryebreadParticipant
The NCAA is going to do nothing. Be ready for it.
This Dean Smith award is another example. What does that award really mean? Systemic cheating?
And Roy’s as dirty as it gets. I really dislike him.06/25/2015 at 8:49 AM #87445WulfpackParticipant
Roy and the men’s basketball program will (mostly) skate. Nothing substantial. I’m sure of it.06/25/2015 at 9:08 AM #87446VaWolf82Keymaster
The UNCheat men’s basketball team brings in a considerable amount of revenue for the university and the NCAA.
This is simply not true. The NCAA gets most of its money from selling the TV rights to the NCAA tournament.
Did you see any articles detailing the reduced viewership when Doherty was at UNC? I sure didn’t.06/25/2015 at 9:49 AM #87447HungwolfParticipant
Roy protecting his paycheck and legacy. He tipped the hand of his defense and UNC’s athletic department’s defense for now. The school offered the classes, we complied with school policy. The NCAA does not monitor academics, so they going to play that card. While the UNC BOG sits with their thumbs up their asses!06/25/2015 at 12:23 PM #87448MPParticipant
“No, because it’s been so bad already. It can’t be any worse than it is,” he said.
i.e. “Last year was like Katrina for us”.
He is such a Grade A Douche Bag.06/25/2015 at 1:01 PM #87449TheAliasTrollParticipant
If John Feinstein had his way the entire ACC would wear powder blue uniforms with a huge picture of Dean Smith across the chest. The balls on this guy.
Feinstein originally came up with the idea for the award when talking with Rick Brewer, sports information director emeritus at the ACC tournament. He wished that all of the ACC teams were wearing “DES” on their uniforms, and Brewer suggested there should be something to honor Smith going forward.
Source: article in the daily tarheely06/25/2015 at 2:03 PM #87452
“Relief” as in “whew, they didn’t connect the dots”.06/25/2015 at 2:42 PM #87453LumpyParticipant
The new hot buzzword from all the UNC faithful in the comment sections of these articles is telling people who see through the baby blue line of BS to “educate yourself” which is rich. Considering that educating themselves was UNC athletes only option since 199306/25/2015 at 5:29 PM #87454JohnGalt78Participant
I had always thought that the thick, hound dog stupidity thing was an act. But it’s not. He is really shockingly stupid.06/25/2015 at 9:23 PM #87455TheCOWDOGModerator
Roy’s not stupid. He just happened to be born with an ego as big as a sombrero the size of Mexico.
We cannot fathom. He is not having fun with all this. How could ya?
…But he is compelled.
…And the millions upon millions of Fat Cats’ money spent here, reflect the same.
What is it they are really trying to protect?06/26/2015 at 8:06 AM #87459TexpackParticipant
Roy’s relief is because they haven’t yet found any rogue emails that confirm his knowledge of the scheme.
CD, I think they are really trying to protect Dean Smith. If Dean’s complicity can be documented beyond question, their entire world will have been exposed as a lie. As it stands now, the delusional fans can say that Dean did everything the right way and that a few rogues in one department (even though that isn’t true) went out and cheated when they didn’t need to. Dean had built such a model program that it would have all played out just as it did without the cheating.
Just as history was rewritten after Valvano, it will be rewritten after this by all of the UNCCH “graduates” in the media. They will tell us to believe that Dean started signing more at risk players at the same time Warren Martin’s girlfriend started grading papers and it was all a giant coincidence. I’m sure the Tooth Fairy’s involvement will be uncovered as well.
They seem to believe that since it was academic people who cooked this all up according to the NOA, that the punishment will somehow be minimized. I sure hope they are wrong and I believe that the LOIC charge and improper benefits charges are the NCAA’s way of making sure they can hammer them.06/26/2015 at 10:35 AM #87460WolfBlood86Participant
PR monster machine in full force. NEW NATIONAL DEAN SMITH AWARD!!!!!! Announced this week! They are going to milk the sh** out of that golden cow until the end of time…06/27/2015 at 9:27 AM #87465PackerInRussiaParticipant
Of course he didn’t expect to be implicated. That’s how it’s all been designed and meant to work. So far so good for now.06/27/2015 at 3:21 PM #87467
Roy may well not have known the specifics, since he didn’t set up the plan. I can imagine that when he was brought in he was just told not to worry about the grades, that it was all taken care of. Hell, there might not have even been a conversation.
Roy: “But what about…”
Shadowy Figures: “Shhhhhh…”
I might have written this before, but it still applies… Don’t write when you can talk, and don’t talk when you can nod.
The new hot buzzword from all the UNC faithful in the comment sections of these articles is telling people who see through the baby blue line of BS to “educate yourself” which is rich.
I’ve seen that dude, John Cooper, on the ESPN boards. Typical Hole fan who wants you to believe that it was all rogues. They’ll go to their graves believing in their own mythology.06/27/2015 at 5:03 PM #87468Wolfpackjack76Participant
Seemingly roy did know specifics and actually helped initiate the whole afam farce…while he was in Kansas. My understanding (misunderstanding?) is that roy and his MOST important staff member, wayne walden, set this program up in their 15 years together at Kansas.
roy shared the info with dean and dean started the program at unx. When roy came to unx everything was already in place. I cannot remember the source but when I read it I thought it reliable. I do not believe this is my lunatic fringe dream…if it is I apologize.
And just where the hell is mr. wonderful wayne walden (tx hiding out!) The man who roy described as “the best I have ever seen about staying on top of things and on top of kids. He is totally devoted to our players and to what they are doing in the classroom.” Shouldn’t THE academic advisor for roy’s first 6 years at unx be consulted (or made to consult)?
And I’m done. I remind myself over and over that the level of my serenity is inversely proportional to my level of expectations…which at this point I have none except for womens bb going under the bus. PacofMac said it “the slap on their hands will sting far less than the slap in the face…
Enough stinging for me. Let’s just go out on the field/court and beat their asses and everybody else’s too. Go Pack!06/27/2015 at 6:37 PM #87469
Regarding specifics I meant how the plan was set up at unx, as in the who, what, where, etc. I’m sure that Roy know the framework, but they were smart enough to build in plenty of plausible deniability for him.
Regarding the people how are no longer around, either literally or figuratively, that’s another plank in the Hole fan platform… why punish if the perps aren’t here anymore?06/28/2015 at 3:07 PM #87472AdventurooParticipant
As JFK’s Daddy said about the 1960 Prez Election (Chicago voting irregularities)….The FIX IS IN….
ORW will not be hurt. More importantly, recruiting will NOT be HURT.
Larry (the Hat) Fedora has started to ambush recruits and win them over (Maybe they recruited the Grand Daughters or Daughters of the ORIGINAL Sweet Carolines’ gang from the late 70’s – early 80’s?). DES and his wife would be PROUD of what those young lady’s gave up and did for dear old UNC….they made Monica look like a Nun….
SO, things are under control. Sylvia is loosing players quicker than NASCAR PO’ing their fans with their “NO Stars and Bars” rants….
Word on the street in UNC Whoville is that Sylvia AIN’T going peacefully and she will be the 175 Lb Light Blue Canary in the room….and there will be more microphones than an Obama Photo Op news briefing. Time will tell….maybe UNC Medical System will threaten to take away her experimental meds? Stranger things have happened….as the folks on the Black List…
No Banners coming down for ORW. He gets a raise. He gets to keep his rings. He gets to keep doing his combo routine where he morphs from Huckleberry Hound to Sgt. Schultz in the same sentence.
Gotta hand it to UNC….they DID figure out HOW to FIX THINGS…..
NOW, if the crimes against whatever and whoever that the Sweet Carolines committed to keep the “Athlete’s Satisfied and Content” were ever made public….then the NCAA would (because of Title IX) lay a punishment on them that even PSU said was Harsh and Cruel….
SO, don’t get worked up into a tizzy….it is what it is. A few wrist slaps here….a few Schollies there….but nothing of any substance.
You GOTT to go back to the 70’s when the NCAA sent one of Bill Gutheridge’s former College Roomies to NC to “look into” the DT pick-up BB game with Eddie Biedenbach….THEN, you should understand….
Move along here….nothing to see….ORW’s will be doing his act for at least 5 more years and his ego will STILL be hurting as he is NOWHERE NEAR Mikey in the $$/game ratio….06/28/2015 at 3:07 PM #87473AdventurooParticipant
I did NOT double post….it were a System error….I only clicked SUBMIT ONCE…06/29/2015 at 12:24 AM #87474WufpackerParticipant
ORW is the new Zen Master06/29/2015 at 8:34 AM #87475Fastback68Participant
^ I probably need that canine’s digits for his therapy dog services when the “punishments” are finally made public. Thanks Wuf, I expected zero reading enjoyment in this thread.06/29/2015 at 7:43 PM #87478TheCOWDOGModerator
Good dog. Channeling dog.
Despite the guy up there, what…mac and cheese?
Ready for football, so he can troll the first questionable playcall…
UNx are gonna get a new age wallop. Across the board.
Sad says he?
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