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09/06/2014 at 9:22 PM #55684
TheAliasTroll
ParticipantSeeing them dance around on the sidelines after a nail biter against ODU is quite telling. This is who we are, and the players are more than satisfied. Could you imagine a Mack Brown coach team dancing around on the sidelines after barely scraping by Old Dominion?
09/06/2014 at 9:22 PM #55685Wulfpack
ParticipantWinning 5 or 6 is definitely doable. That would be a step in the right direction for sure. Baby steps.
09/06/2014 at 9:23 PM #55686TheAliasTroll
ParticipantMike Leach would pillory their girlfriends if they did that on his squad.
09/06/2014 at 9:26 PM #55687SaccoV
ParticipantA satisfying release after a win or the shame of a loss. I’m assuming Alias that you choose the latter? And all this Mack Brown fellatio should stop.
09/06/2014 at 9:27 PM #55688pakfanistan
ParticipantSeeing them dance around on the sidelines after a nail biter against ODU is quite telling. This is who we are, and the players are more than satisfied. Could you imagine a Mack Brown coach team dancing around on the sidelines after barely scraping by Old Dominion?
Yeah, why would a bunch of freshmen be excited about a win. Act like you’ve been there before >:[
09/06/2014 at 9:28 PM #55690BJD95
KeymasterAfter last season, they are looking for reasons to feel better about themselves. I have no problem with that.
Leach’s team (again, inherited squat) was awful last year and is 0-2 with losses to so-so programs (Rutgers, Nevada).
09/06/2014 at 9:30 PM #55691pakfanistan
ParticipantAfter last season, they are looking for reasons to feel better about themselves. I have no problem with that.
Leach’s team (again, inherited squat) was awful last year and is 0-2 with losses to so-so programs (Rutgers, Nevada).
He should lock them in a shed until they learn to play better.
09/06/2014 at 9:37 PM #55692BJD95
KeymasterI’m pleased that after a great 4th quarter after very slow start…Brissett played very well the whole way tonight.
Both lines played MUCH better in the second half. Not going overboard, but encouraging.
Secondary and linebackers still need lots and lots of work.
09/06/2014 at 9:52 PM #55693tjfoose1
ParticipantPlayed out pretty much as expected.
Jury may still be out on Doeren, but the S&C staff have already proven themselves keepers. They get the MVP for first two games.
09/06/2014 at 9:56 PM #55694tjfoose1
ParticipantThose bitching about the win deserve far less than this squad. Clueless whiney bitches.
09/06/2014 at 9:56 PM #55695pakfanistan
ParticipantJury may still be out on Doeren, but the S&C staff have already proven themselves keepers. They get the MVP for first two games.
No doubt. It’s like night and day from last year.
09/06/2014 at 9:59 PM #55696BJD95
KeymasterGood point, Foose. We have looked very well-conditioned.
09/06/2014 at 10:00 PM #55697packalum44
ParticipantThere’s no need to dichotomize the opinion on DD. We haven’t learned whether DD will succeed or not. But do we feel better or worse about his chances after the first two games? You gotta feel worse. He has failed so far.
To say ZERO correlation between skill sets of program building and “coaching” is wrong. You could say LOW but that’s speculation. I don’t buy it. A superior coach optimizes talent. I haven’t seen that.
I have a good feeling about DD. That feeling has steadily deteriorated every game he’s coached.
09/06/2014 at 10:01 PM #55698BJD95
KeymasterWe simply aren’t very talented, and are extremely young where there is some talent. Wins are still gravy.
But having a QB is a 2-win difference all by itself.
09/06/2014 at 10:04 PM #55699BJD95
KeymasterI did say “low” and the point of comparison is between (1) overachieving with inherited, poor talent; and (2) program building.
I feel ok about where we are after 2 games, because I thought this was a 4-5 win team. Next year more like 6-7 wins, then hopefully a breakthrough after that.
09/06/2014 at 10:15 PM #55700eas
ParticipantThis seems like a broken record in Raleigh. Seems like I have heard this for way too many years.
“We simply aren’t very talented, and are extremely young where there is some talent. Wins are still gravy.”
I do agree on a couple of keys things.
1. QB play has been positive and I’m glad he is here.
2. Jury is certainly out on DD and his coaching ability. Talent or no talent (ok little talent) he still has to produce a product worth paying for.
Defense needs some serious attention….
09/06/2014 at 10:15 PM #55701Alpha Wolf
KeymasterI’ve been saying that it was a solid win by NC State’s offense tonight.
Not many have picked up on the finer points of that statement.
09/06/2014 at 10:28 PM #557021.21 Jigawatts
KeymasterI take away from this game that State has no pass rush and that exposes the poor pass defense. State also can’t stop the run or tackle their way out of a paper bag. All 3 of those things will prohibit wins against better teams than ODU this year because State will allow more points and score less. Improvement from the front 6 is a must.
09/06/2014 at 10:31 PM #55703BJD95
KeymasterFortunately, Wake and Presbyterian are no better, and BC and USF may not be. Beyond that, no too optimistic.
09/06/2014 at 10:47 PM #557071.21 Jigawatts
KeymasterFortunately, Wake and Presbyterian are no better, and BC and USF may not be. Beyond that, no too optimistic.
I don’t know if BC is that far behind. They did run the ball pretty dang good against Pitt. I can see them getting 300 on the ground against State.
09/06/2014 at 10:51 PM #55709Wufpacker
ParticipantImprovement from the front 6 is a must.
This.
09/06/2014 at 11:06 PM #55710WV Wolf
KeymasterTotally agree, thought our d-line looked terrible tonight.
While I’m glad we won, can we please stop the scoreboard from playing songs and noise when our own offense is in the huddle and under center? No, everybody does not need to clap their hands when the offense needs to hear the snap count. Drives me nuts.
09/07/2014 at 12:05 AM #55719ruffles31
KeymasterOne big positive from the first two games. 5 total penalties for only 25 yards. Great discipline so far.
09/07/2014 at 12:50 AM #55721highstick
ParticipantI have never understood the stupidity of wanting to wear black this time of the year! The danged Vietcong weren’t even that dumb!
"Whomp 'em, Up, Side the Head"!
09/07/2014 at 3:53 AM #55723tjfoose1
ParticipantAss hats all around. Clueless whiney bitches.
If you did not expect an offensive shootout early, with the ‘Pack pulling away in the 2nd half, you have not been paying attention. No worries, you’re just the average mouthy fan. But if you’re gonna make asses of yourself, I’d suggest a contemplative pause to reflect if you really truly know wtf you’re talking about.
If you can’t see the MASSIVE increase in talent that DD has brought to the program, you can use your blindness as an excuse for your clueless ignorance.
If you can’t see the improvements in play and scheme, you’re forgiven, for they are subtle and not readily visible to a layman’s eye.
That said, the DL was manhandled early. Pathetic. Other than that, the game went pretty much as expected.
Youth dominated defense going from facing a triple option offense (GSU put up 83 pts this week, btw) in week 1 to a passing spread offense in week 2. An offense lead by a Sr QB who won the Walter Payton award last year.
Our defense has no established leader and no true veteran in the back 7 for others to look to for guidance on the field of play. Essentially a trial by fire of the masses. And our starting nickle back has yet to play. It was gonna be ugly. It will continue to be ugly through the first half of the season.
Last week 20 freshman played, 50 total 1st or 2nd year players. I expect similar numbers from game 2. That has an effect on execution. That effect is magnified by the lack of veteran leaders in the back 7 of our D.
Most reasonable folks were expecting 5 to 7 wins this year. No matter how much ’44 moans and whines, that’s still the case.
As I mentioned in a previous post above, the jury is still out on DD, but I’ll go on record now and say I like what I see. I don’t know how successful he’ll ultimately prove to be, but I’ve already seen enough on the field and from his staff to know he’s definitely the best head coach NC State has had since Sheridan left after the ’93 season.
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