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    TheCOWDOG
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    Well, Louisville vacating the 2013 banner.

    Oh look, the NCAA got balls. I guess those hookers pushed them over the edge. Decades of academic fraud just wasn’t enough.

    Ply, these NCAA guys don’t like girls.

    #131347

    StateRed44
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    NCAA should be dismantled. Wrong priorities. Inept and corrupt.

    #131362

    MrPlywood
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    Oops, Sean Miller on tape discussing a payment for Deandre Ayton…

    Dodged a bullet with that Miller…

    #131364

    choppack1
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    Well, we probably shouldn’t consider the bullet dodged until it’s on the ground.

    #131365

    choppack1
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    Gott’s and assistants names have shown up on an email.

    Shocking that this would happen with Gott I tell you. At this point, I will be shocked if Keatts isn’t involved. I don’t have much confidence in Yow at this point in judging character. Keatts seems to be solid in that category – but I am not sure how he’s in the business and whom he has been associated with – that he is not involved.

    The good news is that we haven’t really been involved with too many blue chippers thus far in his tenure.

    Oh well, time will tell.

    #131368

    Wolfanatic
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    So the Heels cheat their asses off for twenty years, and now the NCAA wants to bust us for a stain on a blue dress?

    #131369

    ryebread
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    Chop: I agree with you regarding Gott and always have. I hated that hire almost as much as Fowler’s tone deaf attempt to hire Calipari.

    #131374

    Wulfpack
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    Gott’s and assistants names have shown up on an email.

    Shocking.

    #131375

    tractor57
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    The final question will be if the FBI has jurisdiction and if they will really act. I suspect the answers are no and no.

    #131377

    ryebread
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    I think there is so much undocumented and untaxed money exchanged, so many shady business write offs, etc. that I think it is clearly the FBI’s jurisdiction. Something will happen. What exactly remains to be seen.

    On this thread or another I wondered out loud how bad the younger Miller is. Then I remembered his ringing endorsement by Calipari and the assistants he hired at Indiana. He’s no choir boy.

    #131378

    Wulfpack
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    According to commentary from many coaches about this mess, there are hardly any choir boys.

    #131379

    TheCOWDOG
    Moderator

    Gentlemen. The stakes have morphed, but the recruitment game has not. I frequently breakfast with a former State coach of the late 60s and early 70s. I speak on the phone monthly with an assistant to Rupp and Wooden.

    Choirboys leave collegiate basketball.

    #131382

    Rick
    Keymaster

    Gott’s and assistants names have shown up on an email.

    Shocking that this would happen with Gott I tell you. At this point, I will be shocked if Keatts isn’t involved. I don’t have much confidence in Yow at this point in judging character. Keatts seems to be solid in that category – but I am not sure how he’s in the business and whom he has been associated with – that he is not involved.

    The good news is that we haven’t really been involved with too many blue chippers thus far in his tenure.

    Oh well, time will tell.

    I have no faith in Yow. She’s good friends with Gott. Is anyone trying to tell me she didn’t know he was cheating? I don’t buy it.

    #131383

    choppack1
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    Gentlemen. The stakes have morphed, but the recruitment game has not. I frequently breakfast with a former State coach of the late 60s and early 70s. I speak on the phone monthly with an assistant to Rupp and Wooden.

    Choirboys leave collegiate basketball.

    Gentlemen. The stakes have morphed, but the recruitment game has not. I frequently breakfast with a former State coach of the late 60s and early 70s. I speak on the phone monthly with an assistant to Rupp and Wooden.

    Choirboys leave collegiate basketball.

    Yea Cow – you would know better than anyone.

    Here’s my take – you have a “non-profit organization” that serves as a farm system for America’s two most popular professional sport leagues. The organizations within this non-profit were formed with a much different purpose than the for profit entities they feed. Further, many of those in the glorified farm league have minimal interest in the primary reason for existence of these institutions.

    The non-profit enforces arbitrary rules that create an incentive to be less than transparent in ones actions. People, being rational actors participate in the aforementioned transactions.

    Then your government entity cracks down on them because they are not reporting these profits to the IRS.

    #131384

    StateRed44
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    I have no faith in Yow. She’s good friends with Gott. Is anyone trying to tell me she didn’t know he was cheating? I don’t buy it.[/quote]

    Quit being so naïve. Everyone knows everyone is cheating. Its a matter of what is in the open and can be proven at this point. Has nothing to do with Yow being so called friends with Gott really.

    #131657

    Greywolf
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    I’d like to vacate that 51 point loss to the holes last year.

    #131660

    tractor57
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    Dozens in trouble – if history is any guide no.

    #131661

    rthomas44
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    Fraud becomes a federal crime when you pick up the phone. This goes back to the 1930’s or earlier. FCC regs and such. Feds can then get a wiretap order from a federal judge and then all hell breaks

    #131662

    tractor57
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    If it becomes a tax avoidance issue yes – as to NCAA rules they are not law.

    #131663

    Texpack
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    Miller says he’s clean. End of story.

    #131664

    Pack78
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    ^Maybe, like Ol’ Roy, he doesn’t know anything about that junk…

    #131836

    tractor57
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    It seems the case by the FBI is crumbling – not that I think agents and big time coaches are pure but comes back to what you know and what you can prove.

    #131841

    rthomas44
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    The FBI has not shown the public anything…remember they have charged assistant coaches already.

    #131843

    tractor57
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    Someone has either leaked or pretended to leak information. And yes only a few assistants have been charged. If the leak is untrue someone as ESPN will walk the plank. So is the leak by the FBI to gin up the case just before the big dance or is it an ESPN writer pretending he has a leak. So far no audio or video. Possibly Miller is complicit and possibly the FBI is playing games. I can believe the money offer but I really question a head coach having his hands on this – directly that is.

    #131846

    rthomas44
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    The FBI does not play games…nor does it waste it’s time probably the leak is in the courthouse where the FBI filed arrest warrants etc.

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