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09/29/2016 at 5:59 AM #107303McCallumParticipant
No, don’t you understand, babies born out of wedlock because of the sexual revolution in the US are the reason an unarmed, mentally ill man from Uganda was shot in San Diego. It’s the butterfly effect man.
Love some n=1.
The ultimate default position.
McCallum
09/29/2016 at 6:16 AM #107304McCallumParticipantThe more interesting angle is how some groups are allowed a collective identity and others are not.
I can’t help but be reminded a bit of the lecturing on white mob violence of the 19th and early 20th century when an accusation of rape was lodged at a black man. More we are told so than not, the facts of the case were never heard and an innocent life was taken. The evil, we are told, was a collective identity ready to defend the group regardless of facts and rational discourse.
Now notice the aforementioned pattern playing out today, a shooting takes place and the facts of a case aren’t mentioned, the response is a collective action against the civil authorities. Yet one group is taught to think individually, to do otherwise is racism while the other group is allowed the idea that an attack on one is an attack on all.
Also notice the slow creep up in violent crime the last several years. The slow indicators are out there that the police will not fulfill their duties for fear of lawsuits and cries of racism.
McCallum
09/29/2016 at 12:44 PM #107323ncsu1987ParticipantAlso notice the slow creep up in violent crime the last several years. The slow indicators are out there that the police will not fulfill their duties for fear of lawsuits and cries of racism.
Just curious if there’s a source to back this up?
Didn’t have a lot of time, but pulled latest FBI violent crime data:
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2015/crime-in-the-u.s.-2015/tables/table-1
From the page, definition of violent crime:
The violent crime figures include the offenses of murder, rape (legacy definition), robbery, and aggravated assault.
Based on the data, we can visualize as:
Yes, there is an uptick in rate for 2015, but there have been previous upticks that did not alter the overall downward trend. I certainly see nothing that shows me “…slow creep up in violent crime the last several years”.
Do you have a better source than the FBI’s database?
09/29/2016 at 12:46 PM #107324StateRed44Participantexcellent points McCallum
09/29/2016 at 12:56 PM #107325Fastback68ParticipantSome pertinent details are emerging about Mr. Scott. From page 15A on Wednesday to page 6A today. Will they ever hit front page??
09/29/2016 at 1:08 PM #107326McCallumParticipantNCSU1987,
I should have clarfied that the most prone to violence are seeing an upswing.
Ether, North Carolina is as non violent as ever.
McCallum
09/29/2016 at 1:50 PM #107328ncsu1987ParticipantNCSU1987,
I should have clarfied that the most prone to violence are seeing an upswing.
Ether, North Carolina is as non violent as ever.
McCallum
Ah, I take your meaning. Thanks for the clarification.
09/29/2016 at 2:06 PM #107329TheAliasTrollParticipanthey guyz! whats going on in here?
09/29/2016 at 2:14 PM #107330AdventurooParticipantSome additional reading, from that Vast Right Wing Publication….The NYT and also from the FBI and ABC News. I guess that too many of the FBI’s resources were consumed on HRC’s Email Investigation. Read or at least skim them….they are not long and have some interesting comments….which I will not try to condense into a Reader’s Digest version.
Overall, violent crime is increasing and if you look at some of the comparisons of 2016 YTD to 2015, factored for the same time frame or per 100,000 population or such, things are NOT as safe as they were a year ago.
Note that FBI Director Comey has a “phrase” that translates to “the Ferguson effect”.
The fact that the Crime and Murder rates have increased so drastically in Chicago that Rahm Emanuel (AKA’s Obama’s Ex Cheif of Staff) is starting to panic….
https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/latest-crime-statistics-released
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/14/us/murder-rates-cities-fbi.html?_r=0
http://abc7chicago.com/news/cpd-announces-plan-to-hire-nearly-1000-new-officers/1520303/
09/29/2016 at 3:03 PM #107331tjfoose1ParticipantMore lax policing, violent criminals being released via unilaterally commuted sentences in direct violation of statutes, and illegal immigrants convicted of violent crimes, including rape and murder, being release onto the streets vs being deported.
Crime rates will continue to rise until the above changes.
It’s not a coincidence that crime rates went down once repeat violent offenders were locked up.
09/29/2016 at 3:08 PM #107332tjfoose1ParticipantI can’t help but be reminded a bit of the lecturing on white mob violence of the 19th and early 20th century when an accusation of rape was lodged at a black man. More we are told so than not, the facts of the case were never heard and an innocent life was taken. The evil, we are told, was a collective identity ready to defend the group regardless of facts and rational discourse.
Now notice the aforementioned pattern playing out today, a shooting takes place and the facts of a case aren’t mentioned, the response is a collective action against the civil authorities.
I used the exact same comparison earlier in the week to make a point about culture vs race.
Both behaviors occurred not because of the race of those exhibiting the behavior, but because the behavior was acceptable within the culture. It could be argued not only acceptable, but expected.
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