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  • #119268

    VaWolf82
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    There’s one week left in the ACC regular season. So here’s a look at where everyone stands.
    [See the full post at: ACC BB – One More Week]

    #119271

    BJD95
    Keymaster

    Nice review. The league is making itself rather cut and dry at this point, barring a tourney run by someone (likely Cuse if anybody).

    #119274

    VaWolf82
    Keymaster

    Agreed.

    The teams that had a chance at making things interesting failed big time as soon as they left home…even against the bottom of the conference. Except of course, both Miami and VT stepped up. But they’ve done so well that they’re almost locked into the NCAAT and thus less interesting to follow.

    All of this shows up in the RPI Table under the record over the previous 12 games. VT and Miami have winning records. WF and SYR are 6-6 and everyone below that has losing records. The college season is just long enough to mostly separate the contenders from the pretenders.

    If power teams with records slightly over 0.500 get selected over mid-majors with gaudy records with few/no good wins (real mid-majors and not low-majors)…then the post-selection squealing might become deafening.

    #119275

    VaWolf82
    Keymaster

    Lunardi has some interesting thoughts on teams with losing conference records.

    http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bubblewatch

    Still, you can understand why the sub.-500 conference record maxim exists: Teams like these simply don’t get into the NCAA tournament that often. Whether via correlation or causation, the precedent seems clear.

    Meanwhile, one way or the other, the 2017 NCAA tournament has 32 at-large spots to fill. Something is going to give. Stay tuned.

    #119276

    VaWolf82
    Keymaster

    Lunardi points out this article on ncaa.com

    http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2017-02-17/college-basketball-teams-make-ncaa-tournament-double-digit

    With an automatic bid available to only 32 teams in the NCAA tournament, the 36 schools left jockeying for open spots need as many wins, and as many quality wins, as possible. Several teams waiting to hear their name called on Selection Sunday this year will have at least 10 losses. Some will have even more.

    The most losses any at-large team in the tournament ever had is 14, which has happened 11 times (five in 2011 alone). NCAA.com takes a look at those 11 clubs and points out a few this year that could be in the tournament’s double-digit loss boat … if they’re lucky:

    Who knew the ncaa put up blog entries?

    #119311

    MrPlywood
    Participant

    And just like that UVA holds the vaunted unx attack to 43 points. For the game. I do like more offense than UVA typically produces, but damn, it would be nice to hold the Holes under 50 for 40 minutes.

    43 points is the lowest point total under ORW.

    #119317

    Wulfpack
    Participant

    Hokies knock off the Canes. Now in a three way tie for 6th. Buzz Williams was a tremendous freaking hire.

    #119319

    VaWolf82
    Keymaster

    National Views:

    http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bubblewatch

    9 ACC teams in their bracket (8 obvious + Syracuse)

    “Work left to do” – WF, SYR, GT

    Lunardi moves UM to lock status and says VT “should be in”. Interesting discussions about the rest of the ACC contenders/pretenders all with “work left to do”. Which basically lines up with our discussion here.

    http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/bubble-watch

    9 ACC teams in their bracket. They have WF as “last four in” and Syracuse in “first four out”.

    CBS breaks their bubble down differently than ESPN.
    “In for Now” – no ACC teams
    “On the Fence” – WF and SYR
    “Work to Do” – no ACC teams

    Both have written off Clemson and Pitt…though it took much longer than it took me. ESPN gives GT a paragraph and CBS doesn’t mention them (that I could see).

    Clemson plays State and BC this week at home. I wonder if a 2-0 week would get Clemson some ink?

    #119320

    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    And just like that UVA holds the vaunted unx attack to 43 points.

    Uncle Roy gets another ‘gift-wrapped’ game exactly when he needed it…

    His Team has been suffering from arrogance and lack of energy for significant parts of the season…
    The first big move for the Holes was our game in the Nose Dome…. but that could only carry the Holes for so long…

    Now with only one regular season game left… Coach will ‘use’ last night’s game as the perfect tool to ramp his kids up for the Tournaments…

    Uncle Roy’s rabbit foot has definitely been on his side this season…

    Good Coaching always means “Turning a negative into a positive”….

    That ought to be one of the first questions on the Job Application Form at NCState…

    Coach, tell us how you turn ‘negatives’ into positives’, please….

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    #119327

    13OT
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    The ACC will likely get 8 teams in: UNC, Louisville, Duke, UVA, FSU, Miami, VT and Notre Dame. If there is a 9th ACC team, it would be either Syracuse or GT. With their coach and zone defense, plus playing in Brooklyn, don’t count the Orange out, especially after last season.

    Despite last night’s results, I still think UNC is the league’s best team and Miami is the league’s most underrated team, while Duke and FSU are the ACC’s most overrated teams. Duke’s great only if the 3s are falling; FSU can’t shoot outside the paint. The only ACC team that I expect in the FF is Louisville unless UNC gets an easy road.

    A major help to the ACC’s large representation in this season’s NCAAT will be the B1G. That league is a mess, and the ACC should get more teams in than the B1G and the SEC combined.

    Bill Walton’s “Conference of Champions” to me is the strongest league at the top, with 3 teams having a legit shot at the FF. The Big XII has the nation’s best team in KU plus 2 other teams that could end up in Phoenix as well. Not so anyone else.

    There is simply way too much talk about how great the ACC is this season. I think Louisville, UNC and UVA will be Sweet, but it’ll quickly go sour shortly after that for Swofford’s new and improved ACC.

    #119334

    44rules
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    What? Our beloved Wolfpack isn’t going to the tournament? Hasn’t anybody listened to ESPN talk about what a great coach we have? After all that, it’s hard to believe we’re not at least on the bubble.

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    #119349

    VaWolf82
    Keymaster

    GT jumps up 10 spots on The Dance Card with a home win over Pitt. A jump that big from a mediocre win appears to support the conclusion that the Bubble is extremely weak this year.

    (But it seems like someone proclaims that the Bubble is weak every year.)

    #119350

    BJD95
    Keymaster

    We had one good bubble, maybe, in the last 8-10 seasons. And that’s it. Forget about expanding from 68, if anything you should make the “First Four” ALL games amongst the last at-large teams (this would also make getting a 1/2 seed a better reward, since the 15 and 16s wouldd be marginally weaker).

    #119355

    VaWolf82
    Keymaster

    Forget about expanding from 68

    I remember the year that the possibility of expanding the NCAAT to 96 teams got kicked around. I took the Dance Card’s list as an easy way to pick the sorts of teams that would end up in an over-expanded NCAAT. If anyone doubts BJD’s conclusion, take a look here:

    http://www.statefansnation.com/2010/04/the-extra-31/

    #119494

    Wulfpack
    Participant

    Huge win for the Deacs over Lville.

    #119504

    VaWolf82
    Keymaster

    The win really helps WF on the Dance Card but didn’t make a big jump in RPI rankings. Syracuse hangs close. GT/Clemson not looking too good.

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    #119510

    MrPlywood
    Participant

    Lunardi has 10 ACC teams in. Including Wake.

    #119511

    choppack1
    Participant

    Wake has a huge game vs Va Tech this weekend.

    Win that one and their ticket is punched. Lose it and they may have to win @ least 2 in the ACC tourney. Manning has his team in a gott-ish position (for Gott’s first 4 years.)

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