One More Week

Well that was a pretty miserable weekend of basketball. The only close game was Sunday’s Pitt/WF game with the Panthers falling to the Winston-Salem Curse as well. I wonder if there is some shaman we could pay to transfer that curse to them permanently?

Here is the conference summary table with the RPI rankings coming from CBS after Saturday’s games.

Miami is just barely in the bubble zone and they need to pull off a dramatic turn-around if they are going to make it into the NCAAT. Clemson has fallen out of sight low on our trend graphs and hope is fading fast. The odds don’t look good for either team right now.

Let’s see if the Dance Card can shed some light on Pitt and State:

I’m not sure if the “Chance of Bid” column adds any value to our discussion or not. But it’s interesting to see how far State is above the burst line and how far they are within the 100% group. But I’ve never paid any attention to this column before so I’m not going to draw any conclusions today. I just thought that State’s position was surprising after that disaster on Saturday.

 

Pittsburgh

Before today’s results, I’ve been a little surprised that Pitt isn’t doing any better on the Dance Card calcs or with the Bracketologists. Last year this time, they had a miserable OOC schedule and their only Top-50 win was against a bubble team…but they were in every bracket and comfortably in on the Dance Card. This year they have a decent OOC schedule and several really good wins but by the time Monday’s results are in, they won’t be in on anyone’s bracket.

I figure that Pitt will be in pretty good shape if they finish the season 2-0 against FSU and Miami. But here’s ESPN’s view on Pitt before their debacle at Wake:

Pittsburgh [19-10 (8-7), RPI: 37, SOS: 32] Kansas State’s win over Kansas Monday didn’t just lead to an overly exuberant court storm and some film study for the campus police. It also got the Wildcats back inside the RPI top 100. That’s especially good news for Pittsburgh. Despite the Panthers’ decent RPI and schedule numbers, they are in desperate need of more top-100 victories, and with a schedule that includes just one in their last three games (March 4 versus Miami), it’s handy that a team Pitt beat in late November could lend a hand three months later. The ACC tournament looks like the best chance for the Panthers. They may not have to win the thing, but they’ll probably have to knock at least one good team off before they go home.

That seems a little harsh to me. Their  current resume is on par with a number of our Herbble examples not to mention last year’s surprise bid for State. Oh well, let’s see if Jamie Dixon can get his team straightened out for their last two games against the ACC’s two Florida teams.

 

STATE

If State wins their last two games, they won’t need anything in the ACCT. Their distance from the Burst Line in the Dance Card makes it tempting to say that 1-1 would be good enough….but I just don’t know how fast the Dance Card rankings can change. If it’s as volatile as the RPI Rankings, then we’re back to needing to go 2-0 to feel comfortable.

Note that there is no way to establish the minimum requirements since that will be determined by how the other bubble teams perform the rest of the way. I would like State’s case to be clear-cut next week for the pre-ACCT bubble review, but I’m not holding my breath.

Speaking of volatile rankings, note that Pitt dropped 5 RPI spots just by not playing on Saturday:

Syracuse has already done better over the last couple of weeks than I expected.    They seem to have really taken the opportunity to play spoiler to heart.

Here are the current conference standings including Sunday night’s result:

Over the last month of the season (as well as the season as a whole), Duke had a demonstrably stronger schedule than ND. So I’m really surprised that Duke not only caught ND, but now has a one-game lead over ND for second. With L’ville finishing the season against UVA and ND, the 4-5 spots could easily come down to a coin flip in G’boro.

The last week of the regular season has more games of interest than last week’s. I’ve color coded the ones that I thought would have some level of general interest along with State’s games:

Looking at the schedule, I just had a bizarre thought…if Clemson goes 2-0 this week, then we’ll another team that will deserve a closer look next week. 😉

 

Post Script

The “featured image” at the beginning of the entry kicked my butt last year because WordPress insisted on cropping it no matter how small I resized it. Through a process of elimination, I figured out how to get it to fit. Now I just have to figure out what Photoshop means by “Canvas Size”.

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  • #76810
    VaWolf82
    Keymaster

    but it is kind of a slap to the face of those low major auto-qualifiers.

    They suck and yet get good money for getting their butts beat. Plus they’re ending the season the same way it started. What’s to complain about?

    #76814
    tjfoose1
    Participant

    … but I personally don’t remember them ever choking and simultaneously laying an egg like what we saw this past weekend.

    There were a few, but not many. Think Murray State (but that brings up other ‘issues’) and potentially any game that had Kenny Drummond in the line up.

    Then the 1989 ACC tourney debacle of #1 Wolfpack vs #8 (and last place) Maryland. NC State had 3 first team All ACC players (Corch, Monroe, Chucky) while Maryland had only one conference win. To this day, baffling… only thing I can attribute it to is the combo of the exhausting triple OT game the week before against Wake and the breaking of the “Personal Fouls” story.

    #76815
    wufpup76
    Keymaster

    What’s to complain about?

    Nothing.

    I meant in the context of being placed in the round of 64 as opposed to a play-in round. That’s all. Your point is valid.

    #76817
    VaWolf82
    Keymaster

    Just some info for next week’s bubble watch….After that miserable performance on Sat, State dropped from 27 to 30 on the Dance Card.

    Not as big a drop as I feared. Since the Dance Criteria doesn’t include “bad losses” (or at least didn’t the last time they listed their criteria), the drop is probably just teams moving past State.

    #76818
    Tau837
    Participant

    IMO:

    Out:
    3 more losses = 100% out, even if we make ACC tournament final
    Less than 2 more wins

    In:
    Win ACC tournament
    2+ more wins, regardless of which ones

    I don’t see us winning the ACC tournament, so it’s very simple. Win at least 2 more games.

    #76822
    choppack1
    Participant

    Close – I was going to bring up umd but didn’t include because we didn’t need that game to make the tournament. It probably did result in us being 4/5 that year vs 2-3.

    But that’s what was so disgusting about the BC game. You have a chance to turn the corner and you blow it. This is showing up 15 minutes late for your follow up interview. I could understand it if we shot 33% and BC shot 37% and won because of a lucky break or if BC was a good team.

    #76838
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    Through 3 TV timeouts in WNY, and Wahoowa has exactly…two points. TWO.

    #76839
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    Wow, ugly indeed. Glad I missed the first 13 mins.

    #76840
    Wulfpack
    Participant

    Their D is so solid that they can withstand that kind of start.

    #76841
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    And Wahoowa LEADS by 3 at the half. Strange but true.

    Importantly for the bubble, Baylor up 7 on Texas, which would kill the Horns dead for sure.

    #76843
    Wulfpack
    Participant

    Hoos win the league regular season crown for the second year in a row. That’s a good program by any measure.

    #76844
    pakfanistan
    Participant

    Hoos win the league regular season crown for the second year in a row. That’s a good program by any measure.

    B-b-b-but the oooooffeeeeennsseeee.

    #76845
    wufpup76
    Keymaster

    Haha … Texas has rallied and has the ball, tied game 28 seconds left

    #76847
    Wulfpack
    Participant

    I’ll take three championships and 28 wins over the sexy offense any day of the week. And they’ve been doing it without their best player on the floor. Scary good basketball team.

    #76848
    wufpup76
    Keymaster

    Texas-Baylor FIGHT!

    Actually, not really – but a scuffle is going to cause a 10 minute delay.

    #76850
    wufpup76
    Keymaster

    Also, Virginia’s offensive efficiency has sky-rocketed this season and last … pace of play hasn’t though 🙂

    I really don’t have a problem with the way they play, just sometimes causes eye vomit (for me).

    #76852
    Wulfpack
    Participant

    The thing about UVa is they are still scoring points. They are just uber efficient at how they do it, always finding the best possible shot.

    And when you look at the physicality of some of their guys, you immediately know they aren’t some slow/non-athletic team that has to hold the ball. That strength and conditioning program is doing the job.

    #76853
    Wulfpack
    Participant

    Bubble just got bigger. Texas wins in Round 3.

    #76854
    Wulfpack
    Participant

    Anybody up for BC and Va Tech? Me not.

    #76855
    wufpup76
    Keymaster

    Anybody up for BC and Va Tech? Me not.

    House of Cards time for me

    #76856
    pakfanistan
    Participant

    I’ll take three championships and 28 wins over the sexy offense any day of the week. And they’ve been doing it without their best player on the floor. Scary good basketball team.

    Virginia only has one championship in recent history.

    #76859
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    Depends upon if one counts reg season 1st place finish as “reg season championship”. I personally don’t, but two years running is still nothing to dismiss as unimpressive.

    #76861
    Coach Abatemarco
    Participant

    Damn u Baylor. Texas hanging by a thread on the bubble waiting for state to screw up. No pressure pack the next two games are huge. I think tony Bennett is one of the best coaches at adapting during the game in the biz after watching syracuse game. I would love nothing more to see them beat kentucky in the tourney. As far as house of cards goes it is a civics and economics teachers dream. I love some frank undwrwoood!!

    Die hard state fan from the crystal coast!

    #76867
    choppack1
    Participant

    How do uva’s players have any zip? Are they not tired??

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