NC STATE vs WAKE FOREST Preview

Time: 7:00 pm
TV: ESPNU
Announcers: Tom Hart, Len Elmore

Wake has been off for a week since losing at Duke 83-63, their third straight loss. So the last time these two teams met was four weeks ago in Winston-Salem where the Deacons were able to win the Free Throw shooting contest 70-69. If you don’t remember, the trio of Brian Dorsey, Sean Hull, and Jamie Luckie proceeded to call 52 fouls sending Wake to the line for 39 FTA and the Pack for 31. You’ll also recall this was one of three games TJ Warren has fouled out of this weekend. Finally you may also remember the game winning layup by McIntyre where he took 3 HUUUGGGGEEEEE steps and wasn’t called for a travel.

Here’s a recap statistically of the game:

As you can see the Deacon’s shot the ball tremendously well but that should be expected if you’re going to be called for a foul just for looking at someone. I’ll be honest, I’ve never seen a game where a team took more FT attempts than FG attempts. The ACC must have been so proud for identifying all those tendencies. Wake didn’t disappoint in their inability to grab offensive rebounds, which is saying a lot against this Pack squad.

Projected Starters:
Madison Jones, Coron Williams, Travis McKie, A.W. Adala Moto, and Devin Thomas.

Codi Miller-McIntyre is suffering from an ankle injury that sidelined him for the second half of the Georgia Tech game and all of the Duke game. No word yet on if he’ll be playing tonight but the less the Pack sees of him the better. Maybe that bum ankle can prevent him running from the 3pt line for a layup without dribbling???

Since most of the players on Wake have played at least a couple of games against NC State I thought I’d take a look at how they have performed and who we should be on the lookout for the most.

I’d like to see Thomas’ numbers against every other team in the ACC but I’m guessing he’s salivating knowing State is next up. Just look at that Offensive Rating, 177!!! That is beyond belief for a guy who is so heavily used in those games.

Key No. 1 —- Someone tell Thomas the game is Wednesday night.

The Pack had zero answers for The Dash last game and hopefully he’s at best 50% for this game, otherwise it’s going to be another long night watching the Pack’s PG’s getting abused. Adala Moto was last games “insert unknown player’s name here who has a career game against the Pack”. A lot of that was due to making 11-14 FT’s. McKie’s and Cavanaugh’s numbers are weighted down due to their inability to not turn the ball over.

Series Notes
Overall: NC State leads 137-101
@NC State: State 57-23 (10-4 @PNC, 8 straight wins @PNC)

Magic Number: 65
NC State is 14-3 when they score 65 or more points.
Wake Forest is 13-3 when they score 65 or more points.

Now’s the time to weep
I thought I’d take a look at these two teams and see how they are faring in just conference play this season. It’s not pretty if you’re a Pack fan. Welcome to 2014 where NC State = Wake Forest.

As you can see there isn’t any difference between NC State and Wake Forest this season except Wake goes to the Free Throw line more and sends their opponents there more as well. Some real stinkers against UVA, Duke, and UNC have inflated the bad defensive numbers for the Pack in such a small sample size but doesn’t that say a lot as well.

We all want the Pack to be on the right side of the Bubble come Selection Sunday but if they don’t find another gear improve in several of these areas on both sides of the ball, then I don’t see how they will be able to do the minimum and beat Wake, Clemson, VT, Miami, and BC.

Road Warriors???
Wake Forest under Jeff Bzdelik is a staggering 2-28 on the road in the ACC. Who have they beaten during this amazing run of futility? Boston College (9-22, 4-12) in 2011/12 and Virginia Tech (8-15, 1-10) this year, 2013/14. Wake is currently 1-4 in ACC Road games this season and State is 3-2 in ACC Home games.

So what are they doing to accomplish this feat? Let’s take a look at how they are doing in the losses:


Wake Forest stats for ACC road losses from 2011-Present


Wake Forest stats for ACC road losses from 2011-Present (Opponents results)

It’s pretty obvious, WF just isn’t competitive on the road and the biggest culprit is the fact they can’t hit water if they feel out of a boat.

Here’s a side by side comparison of the averages between the 28 losses and the 2 wins.

As you can see the Deacons aren’t doing a whole lot different between their wins and losses except getting the ball in the basket more and playing horrible teams who can’t shoot.

So what does all this mean?

Well, for one thing no one should ever lose to Wake on their Home court and talk about NCAA Tournament in the same season. Second, be on the lookout early on to how well both teams are shooting the ball.

Predictor:
KenPom likes NC State by 6, so does Vegas. Personally I think on a neutral court this game is a toss up but with the game being in Raleigh I’m going with KP and Vegas.

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Class of '98, Mechanical Engineer, State fan since arriving on campus and it's been a painful ride ever since. I live by the Law of NC State Fandom, "For every Elation there is an equal and opposite Frustration."

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  • #40446
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    OK…time for the honkey line change.

    #40447
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    Here comes the non-Vandy/WBS honky parade! Yay!

    Hell, this team has slogged its way to 6-5 and earned our watching us get raped by Syracuse.

    #40448
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    BJD95 wrote:

    You know how a guy is really good at basketball? He scores a “quiet 34.”

    Hard to believe that is possible.

    But it is

    .. yep… well over half of CUZ’s points were NOT off set offensive plays…

    that’s what we been talking about.. the ball finding him.. not him looking for the ball…
    on night’s like this… he is truly unstoppable….

    on other nights …. the only thing that stops CUZ is CUZ…

    a couple more seasons with GOTT & Company and that will straighten itself out….

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #40449
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    “Honky line change” is more apt, indeed. Love it.

    #40450
    Rick
    Keymaster

    Unc had blue steel.

    We have the four honkymen of the apocalypse

    #40451
    Texpack
    Participant

    We have a dude named Brickhouse.

    #40452
    VaWolf82
    Keymaster

    I gave up on the UVA game at 19-4. If necessary, I will do the same on Sat.

    #40453
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    ‘Cuse fears the Pack.

    #40454
    VaWolf82
    Keymaster

    ND-Clemson in OT

    #40455
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    well.. that was the first game all season… with no complaining by anyone !!!
    Another Good job of policing the board.. Rick…
    just keep sending out those pregame email warnings…..

    PP loves you for that.

    __________

    Wufpacker… time to hit the sack bro… or your head is going be hurting in the morning…. you’ll be dreaming about Oranges…..

    just keep telling yourself what they say down in Alabama…
    “nothing sucks like a big Orange”

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #40456
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    I gave up on the UVA game at 19-4. If necessary, I will do the same on Sat.

    Ah, but I disagree. That’s about when I gave up on the UVA abortion, too. But now we’ve built enough goodwill that we really almost have to watch the first half, at least.

    #40457
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    Rick, in the interest of mojo, you’re not allowed to watch the first half of the ‘Cuse game either.

    #40458
    Rick
    Keymaster

    Bill,
    Iam a hard ass

    Tough job but someone had to do it

    #40459
    Rick
    Keymaster

    Rick, in the interest of mojo, you’re not allowed to watch the first half of the ‘Cuse game either.

    When is the game? I might have a conflict

    #40460
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    ^^and nobody here does a better job of being a hardA%% than you…

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #40461
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    3pm I believe.

    #40462
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    I assume it has to be 9 or later, so the FCC doesn’t have to censor it.

    #40463
    Rick
    Keymaster

    ^and nobody here does a better job of being a hardA%% than you…

    Watch it. Don’t make me drop the hammer on you

    #40464
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    … just for you … Wuf… dream dreams…

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #40465
    ILPackfan
    Participant

    Tonight was definitely one of the better all-around efforts of this season, certainly since they began ACC play. Good game; I’m already looking past the near-certain ‘Cuse loss and hoping for the same kind of effort that we saw tonight against Clemson and Va Tech.

    #40466
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    … woah… just kidding Rick… I never called you Rick the pr…k… you GOTT me confused with somebody else…

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #40467
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    LOL bill.

    #40468
    choppack1
    Participant

    Team looked great tonight. This reflects well on players and staff.

    #40469
    Rick
    Keymaster

    … woah… just kidding Rick… I never called you Rick the pr…k… you GOTT me confused with somebody else…

    A man is known by his largest asset

    #40470
    Rick
    Keymaster

    Just sayin’

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